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I am honestly curious if we met as I spoke to so many Bills fan on Wed following his group and Josh. If you were there Wed, good chance we met lol

Really? I feel like they are absolutely elated to have won a championship in recent history AND be in playoff contention every year. If you had to rank happiest fanbases over the last 5 years, it has to be Eagles, Chiefs, Bucs, Rams in any order, right? All 4 of those teams won a title recently and always make the playoffs and/or win playoff games. For the Rams, the end is near with Stafford’s age, but they were also a play away from beating the eventual SB champs. It’s not like their windows have snapped shut.

Allen on our 2014 squad and that team might actually go 21-0 But the best of our drought vs any team with Allen would lose to Josh and crew because our drought QBs were just that bad.

I thought that might have been the case. Thanks for the reply.

This is going to be a long post about an incredible experience for anyone who wants to read it - if you don't want to read the bulk of it you can skip to the most important part - look for the bolded header below. Quick back story - Lake Tahoe is a special place to me and my wife, we both spent a lot of time up there when we each were growing up. Now we are blessed to live about 90 min from there, and my mother-in-law recently bought a house in Truckee (about 20 min from the Lake) where we will be spending lots of time with our 2 boys throughout the years to where they get to grow up with it also being a special place for them. My wife surprised me for my bday (which is actually today) with tickets to the practice rounds on Wed and Thursday to the ACC Golf Tournament, something I have never attended before, and just so we can try and see and meet Josh. She is a die hard Niner fan and even with some of her favorite Niners there too like Kittle, she made this all about Josh - shout out to my amazing wife. I moved to Southern California in 1997, so I had not gotten to spend too much time in Tahoe after that and never been to the ACC, nor did I even realize how big of a deal it was in South Lake Tahoe. I spent most of my time in west Lake Tahoe around Tahoe City and Truckee growing up, so it was a treat to spend time in an area only been a couple times in passing. NOTE: We will be making this an annual event for us and cant wait to bring our boys who were too young this trip at 2 and 9 months. I HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend this event to anyone who has thought about going. Players are so accessible, event is so much fun, and its on the Lake. The ACC Golf Tournaments - Josh's tee time was 1pm on hole 16 - his group showed, but no Josh. Great group of 4 guys telling the fans there to see Josh he was late (his flight was delayed and landed late), but is still coming, so to follow their group if they want to see him as he was going to join the group once he got there on whatever hole they were on. Steph Curry was the group behind them, also not there on his tee time, but due to arrive as well. So we used this time to go check out Austin Reeves (I am also a Lakers fan) in the group in front of Josh's and lag back and watch Steph arrive and follow him a couple holes before catching back up with Josh's group a few holes later expecting Josh to arrive soon. I spent a lot of time approaching any Bills fan I saw on holes who were not there to get the info telling them they will never see him if they stay on that hole, to follow the group that just passed if they want to see him. It felt good as a Bills fan to share the news and excitement, especially for kids, but it was also just so much fun meeting so many fellow Bills Mafia too. Makes me wonder if I met anyone from here without knowing it lol. It was on hole 2 where I got to meet Josh's mom, who was following the group with Josh's clubs and stuff. My wife and I talked to her for probably 10 min, and my wife and her mom'd out talking about raising Josh, us raising 2 boys, etc. Listening to his mom talk about him, raising him, the adversity he went through, saying god always had a hand on him through all the struggles to get seen and taken seriously was incredible. She oozes class, warmth, love, pride, humility, and just kindness. We had a great couple of conversations with her. Then as my wife and I are walking from the tee to the green after Josh's group tee'd off and were half way down the fairway, my wife says look out, there is a car coming - ITS JOSH - and we don't realize until he is passing the two of us where we shouted out GO BILLS and he yelled back GO BILLS as he passed us with Sam Darnold. Kids start racing up the incline to the green, kids who had been trickling around following the group who were lucky enough to know. The best part about the practice rounds is that it isn't crowded, makes a more intimate feel for everything, like you are watching your buddies play. Josh took the time to acknowledge all the kids, even sign things even though he kept telling everyone he will sign after the round as he had to keep the round moving, especially since they were a large group. Other people we saw were not like this, they were not giving much time to the fans or kids, even in a practice round. Josh was different, and it was majorly apparent just how different he is as a person and his full awareness of just how important he is to the kids there to see him. First green, hole he joined mid way, he was chipping maybe 2 feet in front of me, thats how close you could get in such a causal setting. Got a great video of it. He kept making time for kids in between, telling adults who were IMO inappropriately trying to get Josh's attention to sign their stuff "Just the kids right now guys". There were some adults inappropriately IMO trying to get in with the kids to get stuff signed even though Josh kept saying just the kids right now because he really didn't have a lot of time to do much with the pace, so he wanted to use that for the kids, and rightfully so. Funny story - his mom and one of the guys from the original 4 some who I had spoken to a lot were driving up to the next hole and she hit me in the arm with her golf cart (at a slow pace, it was funny, nothing other than that). When we got to the next hole I told her "Well we should probably exchange information now and have my people call your people and get this worked out" and we had a big laugh about it. So next few holes anytime she passed me in the cart she would swerve at me like she was gonna finish the job as we kept laughing about it - again, his mom is awesome. My best moment with Josh came when he passed by me walking to another hole and I just congratulated him on his marriage and he gave me a fist bump. My wife got in on camera on her iphone, it was awesome (also congratulated Sam Darnold on his season and new contract and also got a fist bump from him). My instagram stories post was a shot with Josh reaching out for the first bump and a shot below of it of us fist bumping and in between was my caption that said: "I went to the ACC Golf Tourney and all I got was fisted by a GOAT" WHY JOSH IS DIFFERENT AND A MVP IN LIFE After hole 9, there was no break as they didn't start on 1 remember, so they had to get rushed over by golf cart to the 10th tee. Josh and Darnold were walking the course, so they brought a golf cart with a back seat that faces out the back to shuttle them with the rest of the group quickly over to 10. As they were driving right in front of us the most incredible moment happened that says EVERYTHING you need to know about Josh. They were passing someone in Bills gear standing by themselves with the person they were there with. Josh yelled to the golf cart driver STOPPPPP as they passed him recognizing this person was a special needs person with Down Syndrome. Josh jumped out of the cart and went over to him and gave him a huge hug, signed his stuff and took pictures with him. I want you to realize that the person did NOT ask him to stop, the cart Josh was in was just driving down this path and Josh saw him and immediately demanded they stop and let him out so he could go to this person. It was one of the most impressive and touching moments I have seen in person from someone of his stature. For comparison sake - Aaron Rodgers in a recent year refused to sign a kids stuff or take any pics with him who was there to see him wearing his jersey and told him "I am too hot right now, I need to stay locked in" in terms of the tournament - a celebrity tournament these guys play for fun mind you. We were walking at this point just behind where they stopped, as we walked by this person who was so blessed to have Josh stop, someone was talking to him about how cool that must be and he said "Yeah, we are like best buds now" and it was one of the sweetest things and my wife was tearing up just amazed at who he is. Mind you, he showed a ton of fun, class, humility, etc the whole time, this moment was just different. In a rush, rest of his group already ahead of him, he still demanded them to stop to take the time and make an unforgettable special moment for this person. And we felt blessed to have a front row seat to just witness it. They say never meet your heroes - they will just let you down. And while this is true in many cases - JOSH BREAKS THE MOLD. He is an MVP in life, he does the little things, important things, untold things...things when there are no cameras to capture it...things that are bigger than anything he has done or will do on a sports field. And on top of that - I can proudly and legitimately state "My wife got me fisted by Josh Allen" - Best. Wife. Ever.

I think that every time I read what you write.

You're the definition of a limousine liberal, in thought, word and deed. You constantly talk about educated, affluent liberals, and the math supports the notion that if you moved collectively, as a group, significant progress could be made. Start with a few billionaires contributing billions, move on to those with hundreds of millions, contributing hundreds of millions, move on to tens of millions giving tens of millions, single digit millionaires doing their part, phasing out as you go. You collectively could make a huge dent, but instead decide to wait until the government compels you to do it. It's a really odd thing to witness.

You should read

Mccoy players with clappy. So he is not eligible

lol, all good. i'll never miss an opp to throw out some classic TBDisms.

Have they? Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow re upped. They don't get it no one does. During and after the Watson grievence for colliding the NFLPA should have had a league wide meeting explaining the collusion and pushed the narrative with the top players to get fully guranteed contracts. The NFLPA failed the players and worked to keep it quiet. The NFLPA showed they are a shame and a kangaroo court for the owners to push the rules they want while avoiding antitrust regulation. Im only a fan as well. Just wild the story has become. Its the weakest union in pro sports. It’s also the most lucrative league. Chet Holmgren got 250 guaranteed. Diffetent sport but fragile and often injured. Unless you severely break your leg in multiple places there are not career ending injuries.

Agreed on the summer part. And I mostly agree with your general philosophy. But I think a Super Bowl win would provide most Bills fans with such a relief of pent up pressure that we'd experience the same thing I saw in a lot of my UGA Bulldog fan friends after they won their recent championships - which was an almost complete disconnect the next year. I know I, personally, could use a "year off". And having that win in your pocket makes it easy to cruise through the next season with no pressure and very little care to how it plays out. Coming off a Bills Super Bowl victory, I know I could sit back and watch every game the following season with a "that's fine" attitude no matter what happens. JMO

Mr Crowley is a great song

I never said that Mahomes was the only reason. It’s obviously not. What I did say is that Mahomes hits that throw, and you know that to be true which is why you chose to argue against something I didn’t say instead of what I did. Buffalo’s coaching dialed up a play that got two WRs open and a huge pocket from which to throw. The rest was up to Josh. Look at the picture. It was right there. The question I was asked wasn’t whether or not Josh is a great QB. He is, and I’ve said before that if he retired today I think he deserves to be in the HOF. The question is whether I thought Mahomes would have won that game, and you’d be crazy to think otherwise. He’s won 17 straight one-score games and made it to at least the AFCCG every season he’s been the starter. You don’t do that by accident. Even Bills fans have repeatedly said that, even if Josh hits that throw, the Chiefs would have driven down to score. They’re probably right. Meanwhile Josh has had the ball in his hands with the season on the line two years in a row and has come away with 0 points. So to answer the question of who I think wins the game, give me the guy who has been to 5 Super Bowls over the guy who has never been. Give me the guy who scored with 13 seconds left and then ripped down the field for a TD in OT. Give me the guy who is 4-0 head to head when it matters over the guy who is 0-4. You’re welcome to disagree, but he asked me a question and I answered it.

I took a little google tour around the block and there are PLENTY such options in the area.

They got the border under control by ending asylum, revoking legal status, and chasing workers off farms. And you are saying that's not a solution, but also I was wrong for saying that's not a solution? ...what do you think actually happened to shut down the border?

Dawk, yes and no. He made it personal. I normally never reply to these ridiculous posts, but when you eat several personal attacks when you just are making a point of what I would do. Another poster doesn’t need to agree, but I don’t make it personal. That’s why I didn’t attack him. That’s fruitless. im done with this topic. I stand by exactly what I originally wrote. No one on this board has to agree to it. Maybe stick to the topic.

You ain’t lying! Got some pictures with her too, if I can just figure out how to crop out my family 😅 JK she’s a cool person.

We’ll stay just north of Indy where our kids (hopefully grandkids at some point) are, and vacation where we want to go. Unless our governor continues to make Indiana sicker and dumber.

Josh has a smoking mom too 🤤

No. I’m glad they’ve actually got the border under control. What happened during the reign of your guy was an absolute disgrace.That’s something you said could not happen without congressional intervention. You could not have been more wrong.

Plotting his vengeance against the 9 teams that didnt draft him and also the 32 teams that barely noticed when he flamed out of the league he's the most pro ready QB of that class, you know

My family and I walked the course with Josh and Sam on Wednesday! It was their practice round, such an amazing experience, Josh’s mom was there too, she really took time to talk with us and answer questions, they all couldn’t have been nicer. After the round Josh stayed and signed a ton of stuff for all the kids, he took selfies and gave hugs to my kids! Even Sam was funny and nice, totally changed my view of him, gonna be pulling for him in Seattle 😃

No I really don't care.

Wait, they didn't invite the other Josh and Lamar? Where is Mr Rosen these days?