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My enthusiasm? I was annoyed that I had to take the long way to the beach because of the protesters. I’m judging the idea that they were paid. Don’t want to address my point? That’s cool. Back to just throwing jabs I guess. But I’m guessing without that random Craigslist post (Who the F.UCK uses Craigslist in 2025 😂) the turnout would have been millions less? Come on man.

0% financing to watch television. Nice!

He was in Jambo and then Fat Brat. Jambo was playing at the Barrelhead when my cousin took me out legally to drink for the first time. Over 50 years ago now.

3 games and we get the number 1 pick! Do it Beane!

The hockey fan in me would love to see game 7 but I think the Panthers will Cup tonight.

Great choice after what he did as GOv. & sent all of those elderly people infected with covid back into their respective nursing homes only to infect hose that didn't have th virus to infect them and no telling how many died because of that great decision !!! All while telling us all just how horrible a person the the now POTUS was and how bad he himself handled the covid deal . Talk about trying to deflect fault onto some one other than your self !! His dad may have been decent but he's proved just how big a POS he is and he only got fired from his job and wasn't held accountable for those he put in harms way and now he's running for Mayor ------ As they say AW HELL TO THE NO !! That's exactly what they need in NYC !!! But hey they elected a bartender/waitress to represent them so who knows Right ???

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/devin-singletary-s-best-plays-from-his-two-touchdown-game-wild-card-weekend His two touchdown plays were great here. Maybe people think that James cook play was more special than I do. It wouldn't crack my top 50 and I'm not certain it would crack my top 100 runs of the year across the league. If I'm not a Bills fan, it's just a nice play assisted by the safety dropping his head. See, i don't even advocate paying him 10 when you can get that talent on a rookie deal for $1-2M. A lot of folks around here believe that we would have wont he SB in 2021 had we beaten KC. if that had come to pass, Devin Singletary would have been our starting RB. having James Cook hasn't been the thing that put us over the edge. He's not that big of a difference by himself.

SI interview with Allen. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/q-a-josh-allen-on-backing-up-mvp-season-tush-push-ban-and-new-business-deal/ar-AA1GSV6o?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=86d6b94b00694fada88deff1ae504e80&ei=20

T's & P's 😂😂😂 You're as honest as a wet fart.

I might put out on the first date like the cheap ***** that I am, but $500 over a Lombardi.

Yeah I am not thinking 4 wins... I am thinking 6 max 7.... thats a 10-12 pick... 4 can really be top 3... Lets just hope we never find out the reality behind our theories..

Hey Newsome , when your a dip S**T and don't go about things the right way as the rules state you should approach a situation and just be ignorant and have th proper dress then you can't blame those folks put in place to uphold those rules or laws when this happens . Almost EXACTLY like when ICE comes into any city to remove those that don't follow the rules or laws put in place . WOW once again the lead by example thing just proves that it definitely comes from the left and shows all those followers by example the way their leaders do things and then condemn those that uphold those rules ...

You do realize the whole discussion is about him asking for $15M and us talking about if the Bills should give him that? No, it isn't each of those players are capable of amazing plays and monster games and have done so. I'm not taking a thing away from Cook. It was a great football play, but that's exactly what is was - a football play. It wasn't a "James Cook" play the way that Derrick Henry stiff arming someone into oblivion is.

I thought it was really funny how several had Lamar Jackson ahead of Patrick Mahomes! And I wondered: if they had to pick a quarterback to lead their own NFL team, would they actually make that awful move and pick what is clearly a much lesser QB over Mahomes? Makes zero sense--choosing a QB who seems to be THE reason his team does not make it to the Super Bowl over a QB who seems to be a seminal reason his team has--and why they have won three of them. I think some did that because they resent Mahomes for his success against the Bills in the playoffs, but I cannot imagine many sentient adults thinking Lamar Jackson is a better quarterback than Mahomes.

Nothing like leading by example to against the rules put in place when wanting to interact or ask questions you just barge in and piss on the rules . Seems to be a pattern here that leans to the left I'd say !!!

Well most of those were probably Kamala followers or those that were Bidenites so it kind of makes sense but don't forget Roundy counts as 2+ just because his BS is deeper than many others !!! 😜 Say it ain't so ! A leftist supporter that may have inflicted harm to another person all because he has TDS ?Now that's kind of hard to believe with all of those "peaceful protestors" from a few years ago isn't it ??

WOW the similarities between BT & Roundy are absolutely amazingly similar aren't they ?? 🤔 Coincidence ?? HMMMM ...

Yeah, I wasn't saying the defense was good last year and of course that will affect the offense. My point was that 4 of the 7 "average" QBs that I pointed out from last year didn't really have better defenses. So if we swapped them onto the Bills team, the defense wouldn't necessarily be a detriment to say how many wins they had with their respective teams last year. Plus, I was kind of looking at 2025, rather than 2024. I think the defense will be much improved from last year with all of the new additions. I assumed the question was if Josh were out this coming year, not last year. But, do you really think that this is a 4-win team if you put Stafford or Stroud on the 2025 team? I think they would at least be in the hunt for a playoff spot. Do you really think with a Stafford, Stroud, Hurts, Daniels, Cousins-type QB at the helm this team couldn't score 21 points/game? The average points per game for NFL teams last year was 22.8. Only 9 teams scored less than 20 points per game last year. Their QBs were: Will Levis, Mason Rudolph, Trevor Lawrence, Mac Jones, Derek Carr, Spencer Rattler, Jake Haerner, Caleb Williams, Gardner Minshew, Aidan O'Connell, Drake Made, Jacoby Brisett, Daniel Jones, Tommy Devito, Drew Lock, Deshaun Watson, Jameis Winston, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Billy Zappe, Desmond Ritter, and Aaron Rodgers. That is not average QB play for the most part (giving a pass for Caleb Williams and Drake Make being rookies). Also note, that is 21 QBs that played for those 9 teams last year, so there was no stability at the position for those teams (except for the Jets and Bears). For the Bills to fall to a team that can't score 20/21 points, at least based on last year, we would need bad QBs rotating in and out. The OP's original question was with average QB play. And do you really think the Bills have/had a less-talented roster than the Jets, Saints, Jaguars, Titans, Bears, Raiders, Patriots, Giants, and Browns? As to Trubisky, yeah, I'm not confident that he could give us consistent, average QB play for a whole season either. But then again that changes the OP's original query. If Trubisky couldn't deliver average play, sure we are probably a 6-8 win team. If he did give us average play, or if we had one of the other average (not bad) QBs that I mentioned, then I say we are still a 9-10 win team fighting for the playoffs. With Josh we are a 12-14 win team. So, I would say, without Josh we lose 3-5 more games. The Bills falling to a 4-win team without Josh seems a bit ridiculous with one of the best O-lines, a top 10 RB room, above average TEs, and a decent WR room, plus an improved defense. It is almost saying that Josh wins 9-10 games a year without any help from his teammates. Yes, Josh is already an all-time great QB, but he is not doing it alone, despite the lack of other current All-Pros on the team.

Dangnebit!!! I read this whole thread. Now I have to stock up a the liquor store! It will take a whole lot of drinking to recover from all the bubble wrap!!!

All depends on who you have taking his place ! If you have Nathan Peterman then I'd say your not going to win more than maybe 4 or 5 games In a season but if you have say Fitz, Tyrod, heck even EJ, maybe 9+ in a season but a lot depends on the QB ...

amen

Let me start by saying that ALL these contracts are a bit insane !! I believe some of the lowest paid players mostly rookies get paid starting at some $840K per year to play a game & does nothing but go up from there IMHO that's a bit insane . With that being said it use to be that RB's were among the highest paid in the league and once again IMHO for good reason, every single time they get the ball they have some other dude looking to decapitate them or at the very lest lay a lick on them to knock the ball lose or they have to block a guy lets say 50Lbs heavier than them to protect their QB . SO I'd say they are pretty much justified in wanting more money & then if you put in what Cook did last year and maybe just the effort alone that he put forth on that goal line TD in the play off game I'd say he's proven hs worth to this team and should get paid !! There are very few plays that the RB's get to just take a play off but there are some players that may just run a route and never get touched for multiple plays like the WR's just to draw attention away from others yet they still get payed much more money and are believed to be more valuable to a teams success . And if you have a "Go To Guy" that you absolutely know no matter where you put the ball near him in any situation that he's going to come down with it 99% of the time then he deserves to get paid but so do the really good backs like Jimbo ... JMHO !!!

What? You do realize he is making 5+ this season?