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No, championships do last forever, which is why they are so important and why people care about them so much. It sounds like your ultimate goal is simply the division title, and anything beyond that is just a bonus. However, for others, the ultimate goal is the Lombardi Trophy.

"Eat your Brussels sprouts. There's starving kids in Africa" Man it's ok to want MORE. I promise. Name em. All the "elite" players. We'll see who you think are "elite."

This is like selecting electrocution over hanging.. Just give me the needle

Josh has played so good in playoffs it’s kind of embarrassing that they haven’t been to the Super Bowl. Says alot about the system McD is running on defense and some of the HC blunders that he’s made in crucial times.

I would describe Tasker's ramblings as "Crimes against the English language." His futile attempt to wax nostalgic about the stadium was also painful to listen to. Even a team player like Catalano couldn't mitigate the verbal fumbling.

Focusing on the Super Bowl to the extent that you cannot appreciate the journey as a fan is pretty sad... There is way to much luck/bad luck that goes into the game for me to really worry about that anymore... Every year, thanks to Josh Allen primarily, this team is exciting to watch... After the 90s, then the drought years, and now the Beane years, I just enjoy and appreciate what we have... Nothing lasts forever... Even with a Super Bowl victory, people will still find something to be upset about... As long as they make the playoffs and aren't one and done, I'm a happy guy...

Half the country does not believe anything the Dems or MSM says. We watched all the lies and deceit for the past ten years and many determined that whatever you say the opposite is true. We are past the Boy cried Wolf media to simply everything is a lie

Wake up on a nice summer weekend morning….and this comes to mind? Yeesh…..Peak TBD

Trubisky. This is not as close as some think.

Yeah, Steve ISN’T glib. Struggles mightily to be quick and to the point. Seems he doesn’t prepare well with goto responses. But I love him. He gets a pass I wouldn’t give most reporters.

Fair, but also fair that it is my single biggest concern going into 2025 about the entire team. It was woeful last year. I would imagine it has been a point of emphasis the entire off season. And yet they were really disappointing yesterday. It isn't just scheme either. It is basics. Tackling, spacing, synchronisation of rush and coverage. Those things don't need creative scheming and when you get more creative scheme wise you better have those fundamentals down pat.

Not for the first time this week I disagree with Joe. He lost rush discipline multiple times. I do good night / bad night after every pre season game win or lose and have done for multiple years. These games are about what you learn and I try and hone in on what the Bills will have learned and how much it all matters.

Yeah, I watched the game. I seen the Sanders and Walker wins. This wasn't Tom Brady getting the ball out sub-2.0 lol It was Jaxson Dart, Tommy DeVito, and Jameis Winston for most of the game. Again, if Dart, DeVito, and Winston drop back 44 times and you can't sack them there's a problem.

No question that if they were to go Allen's entire career without a Superbowl appearance that would be the bigger failure. It should be inconceivable but here we are.

His get off was definitely impressive. Had a nice bull rush that moved the qb from his spot but he missed the tackle and iirc the qb ran for a first. He showed flashes but didn’t finish.

This thread will end well. I voted for the four consecutive Super Bowl losses. So let me now throw some gas on this soon-to-be garbage bin fire.... I noticed you did NOT use the word "led" to describe our current team which is truly "led" by a great leader in Josh Allen. Josh Allen is a leader of men. No team led by Josh Allen would ever be nicknamed The Bickering Bills. His teammates all would run through a wall for Josh Allen. Why? Josh is humble to the core of his being. Josh is not boastful. Josh Allen wanted to come to Buffalo. Josh Allen lives clean. Here comes the gas... It may be just me however doing blow and visiting discos/bars with your teammates on the week leading up to playing a Super Bowl game is NOT the leadership a NFL QB should exhibit. I sympathize with his medical condition however he is one crappy human being.

Dawkins was abused by Carter. He earned an “arrow down” There’s also been a couple weeks of training camp where he hasn’t shown much of anything.

Tre White is not good anymore, despite what people are saying. Max needs to get healthy

you think they'll get better?

Josh Allen turns 30 in May. With the way he plays, it’s possible that he only has three “prime” seasons left. Beane continues to whiff on the first two rounds in the draft. For years, he has poured money and resources into a defensive line that is among the league’s worst, and he has yet to add any true elite, gamebreaking talent to the roster. McDermott is supposed to be a “defensive genius”. However, the defense was historically bad last season. His defenses have failed over and over again in “big boy” games. Unless Uncle Terry makes a change, these two are going to have been gifted the entire career of arguably the most talented QB to ever take an NFL snap — with zero Super Bowl appearances to show for it. Would that be a bigger failure than four straight Super Bowl losses?

White was really not that bad. He overplayed the cushion on that one route to Robinson but the other completions on him were exactly the kind of keep it in front of you and tackle corner play this scheme demands. I think the reaction to that one play is overboard. Douglas was toast last year. I am confident we are better now.

Superman turns 30 in May. McDermott and Beane have 3 seasons or so left with this kid in his prime.

Really encouraging on Chase. Just because of how I was watching yesterday I didn't get the chance to really focus in on the OL. That needs my 100% concentration, but I have heard a few folks say he played well. I really struggle to imagine the Bills cutting him loose.

Maybe I’m naive, but it feels odd to me to complain about 3rd down defense when there is no scheming going on. They are literally just playing a base defense to watch what guys do.

I suspect that Chris Tabor is going to have a fair amount of influence on the bottom end of this roster. And with the new kickoff rules, that might include getting to choose who he wants as P/KR. Judging by today's performances only, Shanault really looked like the best option, so far. Regarding the #3 TE competition, it really didn't look like either Davidson, or Hawes had a particularly good showing as tight ends. But Davidson did have at least one good play on special teams. I wouldn't put Hawes ahead of him just yet. I would also put Hancock down for having a decent rookie showing for his first game.