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It's getting to the point where I'm no fun anymore I am sorry Sometimes it hurts so badly I must cry out loud I am lonely I am yours, you are mine, you are what you are You make it hard

I am most of the way there...It became clear Franklin lost the team and was pouting. He wasn't coming back at that point. Sounds like him and Kraft had a falling out last offseason - Basically Kraft wanted to go full NIL buying top players; Franklin wanted to pay his guys and not pay for recruits and transfer guys. Franklin won. Big money spent on DC Knowles. BIG money to Allar, Singleton and Allen. Inexplicable money to people like Liam Clifford and Dom Deluca (500k each). Refused to play young players....Then the team crapped the bed...and (im assuming) Kraft went into - "I told you so" mode...and everything was lost. It had to happen - as sad as it is/was. 2 good years at VT and he will leave for the first opening at Florida/FSU/Miami. For sure - Kraft has botched this search, but he landed in a great spot. However, Campbell on 24 Nov is MUCH MUCH better than Campbell on 5 Dec...but it is what it is. Sitake was never coming here. DeBoer was (apparently) interested (despite what he says publicly) - but the win over Auburn and making the championship game killed that. Kraft let this play out too long - and pissed off Sexton. Thats not great. But money talks. Especially to Agents. Sexton will be fine. Re: Smith - He was always going to stay. Dude is more Penn State than anyone. We need the continuity and his recruiting. I think it will be fine. Re: 8 years - meh... The devil is in the buyout terms. Even then, Franklins $59M buyout became $9 after he took the VT Job. Heupel isn't worth a response. I've hated Tennessee since that crap they pulled with Schiano. I'll just add his ignorant comments to my list. Im really excited to see what Campbell can do with a $30M NIL budget and the ability to attract 4 and 5 star players. There needs to be a "you're all in - our you are out" conversation with existing players. Cant have the resentment on "Not Terry" percolate. Terry is uniquely positioned to help there. Hopefully they can keep young studs like Koby Howard and Chaz Coleman. Howard specifically was held back by Franklin - so he is probably less inclined to go to VT. Not sure what they will do at QB. I prefer Grunkemeyer...but I can see Rocco Becht come over from ISU as well. Should be a fun next 30-60 days - then see where they land roster wise.

they're the worst 1 seed in history. they're going out in the first round

Honest question teef. Do you think tapper calling him a white man was a simple mistake? What is your opinion on the actual quote? Curious minds want to know.

Still, this offense needs him to drop back and also be a threat to run. He just can't have games where he is getting sacked 7 friggin' times. I think Allen's ability to scramble is an xfactor that drives defenses crazy trying to defend. His cannon for an arm isn't what makes him special. It's his ability to scramble and make plays off script.

Injuries negatively impacting team: Oliver, Brown, Dawkins, Hairston, Milano, Bernard, Bosa, Hoecht, Palmer, Dorian Strong, Shaq Thompson, Shakir Injuries that may have negatively impacted team (as we don't know how the players would have developed): Carter, Sanders, Jackson, Samuel, Hardman, Grable, I am sure this is not complete, but the point is - while it is true we had some injuries that may not have hurt us, it is abundantly clear that we had a ton of injuries that either did hurt us or may well have hurt us. The staff and players have done a good job navigating them. Ironically, I am the most optimistic I have been for this team since the Falcons/Dolphins losses. Seems the defense is gelling a bit and any offense with Josh Allen and James Cook gives the team more than a fair shot. In an AFC where two of the three pre-season favorites (Ravens, Chiefs) have materially worse records than the Bills, I say - why not us? Keep hope alive!!

A slim chance. Thanks. That is helpful to know.

It was a joke. (see how long this thread lasts)

A receiver being "open" is not as simple as it appears. It's not enough to "be open" at some point; you have to be open when the quarterback is looking your way. Very often, Allen appears to be looking at Coleman, even waiting for him, then turning to his next read because Coleman is glued to the receiver or not looking back (or both). In those cases, it doesn't help if Coleman breaks free two beats later because Allen has already made his decision. That's why timing and being in synch with your quarterback is so critical. Remember all those back-shoulder throws to Diggs that were virtually impossible to defend? Allen threw half a dozen of them to Coleman early in the season, and I think he caught just one. The other times he wasn't looking back, hadn't made his break, allowed the DB to make the play, or dropped the ball. The only thing I've seen Coleman to well is climb the ladder for the ball. Throw it way above his head and he'll go get it. Route-running, slants, comeback routes, even jump balls with DBs, he's at best mediocre. Blocks ok, I'll give him that. And sometimes--not usually--he can get open on fire drills. I'm not giving up on him because who knows? But he has an awful lot of work to do.

Wow! You must have a great eye for talent to be able to judge a rookie after 30 defensive snaps with the Bills. I’m not that good, so I’ll just wait to see how he does next year. The point from @billsfan89 was our lack of elite athletes, so taking a shot at developing one doesn’t seem like a terrible idea. If he was ready to immediately perform at a higher level, he would have been drafted much sooner. Let’s give him some time and see how it goes.

This guy was supposed to be a raw "high ceiling" development pick anyway, but it does hurt he's missing the chance to get real game experience his rookie year. Hopefully next year he hits his stride. It is pretty rare to pick up a day 1 good starting EDGE in the 3rd round, so I didn't hate the pick in a vacuum (although I wanted a WR or Safety there).

I agree with your take, including my thoughts every time Allen drops back to pass. It used to be I loved seeing him drop back, expecting something awesome. Now I hold my breath. I actually felt like last week would be a good barometer for the Bills—on the road against a lesser team they *should* beat—and aside from the self-destructive mistakes in the first half, I thought they passed the test well. I agree that this week is another good test—but then again, it seems like *every* week is going to just be another test. I have no doubt that the former senator from Tennessee didn't care at all about that game.

In my opinion - which clearly you don’t care about, but I’ll play along - that would make it 58 times worse.

You know it

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/president-trump-wants-american-football-to-be-named-something-other-than-football Wow..... Unbelievable!!

34 - 31 Bengals

Goes to show you how awful officiating has always been

Bern doesn't comprehend moron speak either...what did you mean to say?

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looks like Tarzan. plays like Jane.

If you do a search on this board - you will find that @BillsFanNC has used the term 444 times. Amazing.

77 thread bumps!!! All these current events in just 24 hours oh my goodness!!!!

Lol what a joke. As for Moulds v Keon, Keon is going to need to add 10-15 pounds of muscle and shave at least 10-15 points off his 40 time, along with purchasing an alarm clock, before being able to do what Moulds ever did.