Peter Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Good for Trent. Sullivan knows very little about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Also, let's not forget that the whole coaching staff, scouting department and GM should be fired The Bills can avoid critism by simply winning more games. Simple. They should all shut up and go out and do it. Otherwise, I agree completely with the comment above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Let's not forget that Turk Schonert is the understudy of Steve Fairchild, who trained 3 years under Mike Martz in St Louis.... If your inference is that Schonert is of the Martz/Fairchild coaching tree, I have to disagree. Schonert is a branch on the Wyche (Walsh) coaching tree and his current offense bears little to no resemblance to that of Fairchild's. And it wouldn't even if they decided NOT to use the no-huddle. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 If your inference is that Schonert is of the Martz/Fairchild coaching tree, I have to disagree. Schonert is a branch on the Wyche (Walsh) coaching tree and his current offense bares little to no resemblence to that of Fairchild's. And it wouldn't even if they decided NOT to use the no-huddle. GO BILLS!!! Bears little resemblance to Wyche too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Bears little resemblance to Wyche too. At this point it bears little resemblence to any offense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Bears little resemblance to Wyche too. So far. But Wyche's offense bore little resemblance to Wyche's offense the first couple years as well. Let's get a legitimate threat on the other side of Evans and see what happens when we can spread and stretch a defense like those Wyche offenses. The key is a healthy TO. Next year, assuming he doesn't come back, we better hope Johnson or Hardy can do a reasonable impression. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I hate sully, but he's right this time and Edwards is wrong. there were several games last year where edwards checked off and didn't see evans open downfield last year (especially after the concussion). this would have been a good time for edwards to keep his mouth shut, and worry about the first team O actually getting the ball in the endzone Edwards has to thicken his skin Sully asked a legit question Sully couldn't wait to run JP out of town The honeymoon is over for Trent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 It seems that most of you are missing the point. Do we not want our QB to play with a chip on his shoulder? I think Edwards has been much too "easygoing" to this point. Hell, I'd like for the entire team to tell the media to shove it and go into this season with an "us against the world" mentality. And my god, I've never seen such Sully ball-washing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 It seems that most of you are missing the point. Do we not want our QB to play with a chip on his shoulder? I think Edwards has been much too "easygoing" to this point. Hell, I'd like for the entire team to tell the media to shove it and go into this season with an "us against the world" mentality. And my god, I've never seen such Sully ball-washing. He said the same thing last year. Doing what he's told. Taking what the defense gives him. Regarding Sullivan...call it what you like but most of us haven't even mentioned him. You've taken Edwards' words and decided that they convey something positive in his development. I disagree, and that's AOK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregkash Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 And another thing - "He's doing what he is told" is a chicken sh-t excuse for sucking. How many times do you think Kelly changed a play or did what he knew would work better that what he was told? Same could be said for any great player. Fact is, Trent will make a nice back up QB and perhaps a great coach - but a star QB or even a bonifide starter, I have seen enough, he simply does not have "it". The Nazi soldier defense for marching Jews into the chambers was "I was doing what I was told" - so were they good soldiers? Good sheep - perhaps, but a good soldier, hardly. That said, Trent is at best a good sheep and a mediocre quarterback - but a good QB, hardly. I'm sorry but that's probably the most retarded analogy I've ever seen in my life... I mean, it's just so... terrible. You just compared marching 6 million people to their deaths. To Throwing the ball down field in a football game. I want you to look at that. say to yourself, "Am I really helping society by existing?" and go ponder that for a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Throwing downfield is the "final solution" to the Bills offensive woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todzilla Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I do want our QB playing with a chip on his shoulder....just not a whiney, leave me alone, I'm trying my hardest chip. The QB should play with a swagger, with confidence to fit the ball into a tight spot 15-20 yards down field. If it gets picked, do it better the next time. I remember a Monday night game against Cincy, where Kelly through 3 ints in the 1st quarter and then 4 or 5 TD's and the Bills won in a blowout. Thats a quarterback with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 At this point it bears little resemblence to any offense at all. It's actually quite offensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todzilla Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Throwing downfield is the "final solution" to the Bills offensive woes. I think we all know it isn't the final solution....but it would sure be a start. It opens up alot of other aspects of the offense, especially the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregkash Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I think we all know it isn't the final solution....but it would sure be a start. It opens up alot of other aspects of the offense, especially the running game. fairly certain you missed that reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 I do want our QB playing with a chip on his shoulder....just not a whiney, leave me alone, I'm trying my hardest chip. The QB should play with a swagger, with confidence to fit the ball into a tight spot 15-20 yards down field. If it gets picked, do it better the next time. I remember a Monday night game against Cincy, where Kelly through 3 ints in the 1st quarter and then 4 or 5 TD's and the Bills won in a blowout. Thats a quarterback with confidence. It's heresy to even mention Trentative Checkwards (love that) and Jim Kelly in the same sentence...BUT...in the Cleveland Monday-nighter a year ago, TE had a horrible first half (3 picks?) yet led the team downfield in the 4th quarter and put them in position to win. I think he bounced back well and showed confidence in that situation. I don't know what to make of Edwards right now. I want to see some swagger; I just read his comments directed at Sully as evidence of a little bit of frustration bubbling to the surface, and perhaps a realization that he needs to take control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 and perhaps a realization that he needs to take control. I would change that to "and hopefully a realization that he needs to take control." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 It's heresy to even mention Trentative Checkwards (love that) and Jim Kelly in the same sentence...BUT...in the Cleveland Monday-nighter a year ago, TE had a horrible first half (3 picks?) yet led the team downfield in the 4th quarter and put them in position to win. I think he bounced back well and showed confidence in that situation. If "led" means finally made one pass over 20 yards, then yes he did. Every other pass in the game was a dump off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Whoopty do dah day... he calls out a reporter. By the same token... Evans subtly called Edwards out. How bout that? So, now we've got Sully, Kelly, Thermal, Evans, and a lot ot of fans on his case. We got it all wrong. Here comes the BICKERING BILLS......Dejavu....Just like 1989...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Dejavu....Just like 1989...... whoa....dude....dejavu is right...your avatar looks like my avatar plus fifteen years...freaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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