NewHampshireBillsFan Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Just a little more bluffing is all.......no way does he sit out this year. He won't sit out for they year, but the pressure is all on the clubs to get the top picks signed. The players and agents know that. The coaches and fans are screaming to get the top pick into camp so that they can get them caught up enough to contribute in a major way this year. If the player holds out longer he probably gets a little more money and why should he care if his role is diminished for the first year or first part of it; he has got his money. Plenty of years to get great stats for the next contract. The veteran players won't hold a grudge against the top rookie if once he comes to camp he works hard and isn't a smart aleck. The point is the player/agent holds all the cards unless the contract demand is WAY above other similar picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 So this has been decided? That's what I'm getting from the first post. Wonderin' that too. Link? anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Do you know if anyone on the SF fan boards has posted "C'mon (owner of 49ers), quit being so cheap and pay the man! This is the worst franchise in the NFL!"? You know people would say that here. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 guys like Crabtree, and agents like Parker, are so bad for the game... greed, arrogance, and narcissism abounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 guys like Crabtree, and agents like Parker, are so bad for the game... greed, arrogance, and narcissism abounds. Repeated from the other thread on the same subject: The agents and players in the top of the first round that are not signed and not named Crabtree are waiting this out because they think Crabtree is going to get the money, they are going to make more money because of it, and they are literally banking on it. They aren't really any better than Parker or Crabtree. There is not a rule about slotting, it's a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Repeated from the other thread on the same subject: The agents and players in the top of the first round that are not signed and not named Crabtree are waiting this out because they think Crabtree is going to get the money, they are going to make more money because of it, and they are literally banking on it. They aren't really any better than Parker or Crabtree. There is not a rule about slotting, it's a choice. If the 49ers are smart they will tell Parker if your client is not signed by this date, we will lower our offer by this amount. The longer he holds out, the lower our offer. This was done some years back , but I can't remember the team or player involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrygnome Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 He's bluffing. Even with his potential skills, sitting out an entire year will cause him to be drafted LOWER in next years draft. No one will want to deal with that kind of headache during the contract negotiations. ALL of this could be easily avoided by implementing a rookie cap. Players are signed relatively cheap and in camp on time; fans and owners are happy. Make it a short rookie contract- say two years then a new deal is done with an option for a third year, but then they are RFA's and can get offer sheets from other teams. NFLPA will probably never approve this during the new CBA negotiations though. But it's a pipedream of mine to see teams in the top five actually have those spots coveted by other teams for trade ups, not being stuck with taking a player in a spot they don't want to because of the rookies upcoming bloated contract. In some ways these days having a top five pick seems like a curse more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britbillsfan Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 ESPN has a quote where Parker is saying - I never said that or threatened this. The original quote appears to come from Crabtree's cousin / 'adviser' http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4381335 It is possible, however much we all despise Parker, that this one is all down to Crabtree. Or even just his idiot cousin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 ESPN has a quote where Parker is saying - I never said that or threatened this. The original quote appears to come from Crabtree's cousin / 'adviser' http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4381335 It is possible, however much we all despise Parker, that this one is all down to Crabtree. Or even just his idiot cousin... So this is all bs then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Big disputes? Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens, Sean Taylor, Javon Walker, Dan Morgan and now Mario Henderson, to name a few. While Rosenhaus may threaten to hold out his clients, they never actually go through with it. He uses it as a negotiating tactic, and his players may skip some of the may/june camps, but when push comes to shove, Rosenhaus' clients are always in training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 ESPN has a quote where Parker is saying - I never said that or threatened this. The original quote appears to come from Crabtree's cousin / 'adviser' http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4381335 It is possible, however much we all despise Parker, that this one is all down to Crabtree. Or even just his idiot cousin... I didn't know that Crabtree and former Yankee David Wells are cousins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britbillsfan Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 So this is all bs then? It appears to be the case. It is possible the cousin is doing this on behalf of our favourite agent (but Parker does not seem this dumb to make this kind of threat). More llikely Crabtree, though. Or quite possibly is 'helping' his cousin off his own bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Time to sign Mabin!!!!! Time to change the title of this thread - it is not confirmed that he is going to sit 2009, just a rumor/speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 He won't sit out for they year, but the pressure is all on the clubs to get the top picks signed. The players and agents know that. The coaches and fans are screaming to get the top pick into camp so that they can get them caught up enough to contribute in a major way this year. If the player holds out longer he probably gets a little more money and why should he care if his role is diminished for the first year or first part of it; he has got his money. Plenty of years to get great stats for the next contract. The veteran players won't hold a grudge against the top rookie if once he comes to camp he works hard and isn't a smart aleck. The point is the player/agent holds all the cards unless the contract demand is WAY above other similar picks. Sez who? Who's screaming? A lot of fans are flat on their economic ass - you think they are out there begging to see these prima donnas get their nuts licked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 While Rosenhaus may threaten to hold out his clients, they never actually go through with it. He uses it as a negotiating tactic, and his players may skip some of the may/june camps, but when push comes to shove, Rosenhaus' clients are always in training camp. Not true at all. Mike McKenzie held out throughout the entire training camp, and even missed the first game of the season. Brian Westbrook heldout during the offseason, and didn't show up until the second week of camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 So Crabtree's not sitting out and reentering the '10 draft? The whole thread's a bunch of crap? Fine. Can I just start bashing Jason Peters now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 If the 49ers are smart they will tell Parker if your client is not signed by this date, we will lower our offer by this amount. The longer he holds out, the lower our offer. This was done some years back , but I can't remember the team or player involved. If they want to have any hope of signing him they will not take this path. My guess is that he will end up with heavy incentives. At least it is not the Bills directly involved in the mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 So Crabtree's not sitting out and reentering the '10 draft? The whole thread's a bunch of crap? Fine. Can I just start bashing Jason Peters now? I say GO FOR IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Parker said it alright... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Is the whole re-entering idea new? If not, then how did the Raiders hold Raghib Ismail's rights for so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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