SKOOBY Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 where is Skooby when we need him? Dang, Cutler threw for a record amount of yards (in Denver) last season. I really don't know how high Trent's upside is so I am torn one way or the other. I like Trent and think he has a shot of becoming a great one but Cutler has a swagger about him that might get more done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 say goodbye to the glove wearing mary Nope. 'Ignore' is a much better option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Dang, Cutler threw for a record amount of yards (in Denver) last season. I really don't know how high Trent's upside is so I am torn one way or the other. I like Trent and think he has a shot of becoming a great one but Cutler has a swagger about him that might get more done. It's not hard to throw for 4000+ yards when you throw 40 times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossack Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 IF Bus Cook was in town - and that's a BIG *IF* - It could be for Scheffler or perhaps Ken Lucas, another notable free agent he represents. Shouldn't be for Cutler since permission to discuss a trade hasn't been granted, as mentioned on another thread. WHEN permission is given, You can bet Mr. Cook and Mr. Cutler will make sure the whole world knows, just like they've been informing everybody about Cutler's every discussion, missed phone call and unanswered emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 IF Bus Cook was in town - and that's a BIG *IF* -It could be for Scheffler or perhaps Ken Lucas, another notable free agent he represents. Shouldn't be for Cutler since permission to discuss a trade hasn't been granted, as mentioned on another thread. WHEN permission is given, You can bet Mr. Cook and Mr. Cutler will make sure the whole world knows, just like they've been informing everybody about Cutler's every discussion, missed phone call and unanswered emails. That's true, it's been a pretty open book so far and no reason to think that is going to change. Great point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Does it matter who plays RB for them? They were 12th in rushing yards and 2nd in YPC last year. I attribute that to Shanahan's offense and his proven ability to call plays and just stick anyone in there. I don't at all think that will just continue with a new offense and philosophy and unproven coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millstone twnsp nj bills fan Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I believe he is also the agent for Denver's tight end that is being shopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I believe he is also the agent for Denver's tight end that is being shopped. Hey, did you know the Bills just signed T.O.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 If an agent is in town, then something is up...Exactly the scale (the player involved) is up to debate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 IF Bus Cook was in town - and that's a BIG *IF* - True, although I might believe Ruben more than I would the average message board poster. It could be for Scheffler or perhaps Ken Lucas, another notable free agent he represents.Shouldn't be for Cutler since permission to discuss a trade hasn't been granted, as mentioned on another thread. WHEN permission is given, You can bet Mr. Cook and Mr. Cutler will make sure the whole world knows, just like they've been informing everybody about Cutler's every discussion, missed phone call and unanswered emails. That is a great post. Whether or not he has just cause, I'm beginning to think Cutler is quite the drama queen ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Hey, did you know the Bills just signed T.O.? The Biils signed Tony Orlando?!? Cool, but what about Dawn?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 It's not hard to throw for 4000+ yards when you throw 40 times a game. No but being the QB of the 2nd best offense in the league is pretty good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Dumb question, anyone know if he is an agent foranyone else on the Bills? Jeremy Bridges - Carolina Panthers Jake Allen - Green Bay Packers Earl Bennett - Chicago Bears Nathan Bennett - Baltimore Ravens Simeon Castille - Cincinnati Bengals Jonathan Goff - New York Giants Ali Highsmith - Arizona Cardinals Edwin Harrison - Kansas City Chiefs Eldra Buckley - San Diego Chargers Antoine Cash - Tampa Bay Buccaneers Kevis Coley - Houston Texans Quinton Culberson - St. Louis Rams Jay Cutler - Denver Broncos Jake Allen - Green Bay Packers Brett Favre - New York Jets http://www.buscook.com/content/view/16/9/ Not sure if this is current, but is says 2009. Parys Haralson - San Francisco 49ers Jason Hatcher - Dallas Cowboys Antonio Johnson - Tennessee Titans Calvin Johnson - Detroit Lions Marcedes Lewis - Jacksonville Jaguars Ken Lucas - Carolina Panthers Steve McNair - Baltimore Ravens "Retired" Martrez Milner - New York Giants Marvin Mitchell - New Orleans Saints Randy Moss - New England Patriots Jerious Norwood - Atlanta Falcons Tony Scheffler - Denver Broncos Fred Smoot - Minnesota Vikings David Stewart - Tennessee Titans Adalius Thomas - New England Patriots Michael Turner - Atlanta Falcons John Wade - Oakland Raiders Chris White - Houston Texans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Just a thought...could Cook represent one of the rookies that are coming in for visits? Anyone have that type of info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Just a thought...could Cook represent one of the rookies that are coming in for visits? Anyone have that type of info? Would an agent come to town for a rookie that's in town that might be picked by the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Would an agent come to town for a rookie that's in town that might be picked by the Bills? Probably not, unless we had the first overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Florio never lets a good rumor get away very long. BUS COOK’S BUFFALO TRIP RAISES EYEBROWSPosted by Mike Florio on March 16, 2009, 8:31 p.m. Former Bills offensive lineman Ruben Brown disclosed during his WECK radio show on Monday that agent Bus Cook was in Buffalo. Apparently, former Bills receiver Eric Moulds, who was represented by Cook during his playing career, mentioned to Brown that Cook was in town. According to NFLPA records, Cook represents no players currently under contract with the Bills. Thus, speculations is centering on a possible trade of Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler or tight end Tony Scheffler, both of whom are Cook clients. Our buddy Brad Riter of WECK thinks that Scheffler is the more likely trade target. But, hey, it’s more fun to ponder the possibility of a new quarterback heading to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 FWIW Florio essentially points to Moulds as being Brown's source. Moulds was represented by Cook. www.profootballtalk.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I don't think that Cutler and TO are a good mix at all. Cutler's pretty good, but he's also a whiny arrogant prick. He's as likely to mouth off to TO as vice versa, and that probably wouldn't end quickly, or well, especially because it would have resulted from some kind of failure that neither of them was going to admit to. Now, bringing on Scheffler is something I have wanted for several weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Florio never lets a good rumor get away very long. I'm guessing Brad called him when he got off the air, or maybe e-mailed him even before then ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 It's not hard to throw for 4000+ yards when you throw 40 times a game. Yes it is...you obviously have never played football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Yes it is...you obviously have never played football... JP could of thrown 80 times a game and not got 4,000 yards, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Yes it is...you obviously have never played football... Jon Kitna... yes i have played football, and it doesn't take a genius to know that almost every decent QB in this league could throw for 4000+ yards given 40 attempts a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Jon Kitna... yes i have played football, and it doesn't take a genius to know that almost every decent QB in this league could throw for 4000+ yards given 40 attempts a game. Good one. Kitna never threw 40 passes a game, and yet he threw for over 4000 yards twice. And he is just an average player. They were, of course, 10-22 in those years and a ton of those yards were in mop up time, but hey... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KitnJo00.htm That is not to say that anyone that throws 40 times a game would gain 4000 yards. There can't be many players that have ever thrown 40 times a game. I think there are only three. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead...ngle_season.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Jon Kitna... yes i have played football, and it doesn't take a genius to know that almost every decent QB in this league could throw for 4000+ yards given 40 attempts a game. Jon Kitna is amongst the league leaders all time in passing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Jon Kitna is amongst the league leaders all time in passing... Well, sure, if you count 75th in passer rating, 47th in yards, and 69th in touchdowns amongst the all time league leaders. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead...ting_career.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead..._yds_career.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead...s_td_career.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Good one. Kitna never threw 40 passes a game, and yet he threw for over 4000 yards twice. And he is just an average player. They were, of course, 10-22 in those years and a ton of those yards were in mop up time, but hey... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KitnJo00.htm That is not to say that anyone that throws 40 times a game would gain 4000 yards. There can't be many players that have ever thrown 40 times a game. I think there are only three. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead...ngle_season.htm woah... 9th all time in pass attempts in a single season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 JP could of thrown 80 times a game and not got 4,000 yards, LOL. jp could throw 80 times and couldn't get a TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Well, sure, if you count 75th in passer rating, 47th in yards, and 69th in touchdowns amongst the all time league leaders. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead...ting_career.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead..._yds_career.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead...s_td_career.htm the topic was in relation to passing yards numb nutz...lmao... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Well, sure, if you count 75th in passer rating, 47th in yards, and 69th in touchdowns amongst the all time league leaders. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead...ting_career.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead..._yds_career.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/lead...s_td_career.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 the topic was in relation to passing yards numb nutz...lmao... Like I said, 47th is amongst all-time leaders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I can't believe we're getting this worked up over Bus Cook. The same man who for years made GB worry that Favre was retiring. The same guy who got Favre to come back for one final season. I'm sure he's soaking this all in, especially now that his most famous client is (evidently) retired for good. This is the closest most men ever get to soap operas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Can anyone verify this? it was on profootballtalk.com. a blog but this guy is usually good with his stuff. just states that Ruben said he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Like I said, 47th is amongst all-time leaders? Yeah, top 50 all time is amongst the all time leaders, and if didnt miss this season he easily would have finished the year in top 30... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 This guy runs a diner from a tricked out Bluebird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest three3 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Buffalo Bills What they give up: Trent Edwards, 2nd round draft pick Why it makes sense: We already know the Bills are crazy, they signed Terrell Owens. Anyway, Cutler and T.O. could hook up for what, 37 touchdowns? Denver, meanwhile, gets a serviceable starter and a pick to take another college QB who they can groom for the next couple of years. Edwards would surely benefit from Brandon Marshall as much as he would Owens. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/p...-end-badly.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I think Skooby has taken enough abuse on the car remark. Let it die. Skooby has said he does not mind the abuse, feel free to flame away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Buffalo Bills What they give up: Trent Edwards, 2nd round draft pick Why it makes sense: We already know the Bills are crazy, they signed Terrell Owens. Anyway, Cutler and T.O. could hook up for what, 37 touchdowns? Denver, meanwhile, gets a serviceable starter and a pick to take another college QB who they can groom for the next couple of years. Edwards would surely benefit from Brandon Marshall as much as he would Owens. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/p...-end-badly.aspx Much as I would like to have Cutler, I really don't like the idea of throwing our second rounder as well. We have not been very cavalier in signing free agents to plug the holes in our lines, especially the OL. At a minimum, we need the early picks to have half a chance of doing so through the draft. No matter who the QB, it will be tough for him to throw to Evans or TO if he isn't upright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah, top 50 all time is amongst the all time leaders, and if didnt miss this season he easily would have finished the year in top 30... I see. Rather convenient for your argument don't you think? So you would consider Jake Plummer, and Chris Chandler and Jeff George and Craig Morton all time leaders but not Tom Brady and Drew Brees and Jeff Garcia and Bob Greise and Bart Starr. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 jp could throw 80 times and couldn't get a TD Trent could throw 80 times and couldn't get a TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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