davefan66 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 OK, I GIVE UP! I must be making it up because you say so...I guess I dont really get a paycheck from Entertainment Partners, I didnt work on "My Own Worst Enemy" because google can list cast and crew info and I have been planning this scheme for months because I have nothing better to do. Geezus, I guess my whole career is just a sham and dream and I made it all up because you said so...What a joke. What can I say...dont believe it then, I don't care. The conversation happened, Barbara is great and a really good friend who I have had the pleasure of working with on 3 occassions, and shared with me some info as she knows I am such a big Bills fan and thought I woudl find it interesting. I decided to share it with the board, but you want to spend countless posts trying to discredit me, so go ahead...I dont care anymore, not worth my time to keep defending the validity when in reality, unless you were on the phone with me you will never belive it anyway. By the way...IMDB doesnt show her on the show, so for me to have gotten that info from YOUR link I would have had to know that there was a show that she WAS working on that WAS not listed on IMDB but was mentioned on some other newspaper link... I mean you ONLY found that link becuase I TOLD YOU WHAT SHOW she WAS on and WAS NOT LISTED on IMDB. There is NO OTHER WAY you would have known that UNLESS someone who worked on the show TOLD YOU that she WAS on the show but its NOT listed on IMDB...all you did was PROVE that I must know her, otherwise there is no way I would have known that...YOU WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW SHE WORKED ON THAT SHOW IF I DIDNT TELL YOU BECAUSE ITS NOT LISTED ON HER IMDB PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, thank for PROVING I know her... Dude, just showing how easy it is for people to use google and claim they are "in the know". Fine, you know her. Just don't think the info about us wanting Cassel is anything. BTW, use google and go past the first page or two and you would be surprised at the obscure info you find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Yeah, this is definitely a bunk story...who knows, maybe it's true that she said that, not doubting you, but she was probably just misinformed because the whole thing doesn't make a shred of sense...wouldn't the Jets be a more worrisome situation for the Pats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Dude, just showing how easy it is for people to use google and claim they are "in the know". Fine, you know her. Just don't think the info about us wanting Cassel is anything. BTW, use google and go past the first page or two and you would be surprised at the obscure info you find. Honestly, I wouldnt know...I obviously didnt Google her, had no reason to. At this point, I dont care if peeps don't want to beleive I know her or the conversation. I found the information surprising and interesting when I heard it, and thought I would share it with the board...clearly that was a mistake, and will think twice next time something like this comes up. I mean, I expected some of this, but thought there would be at least some people talking about the football side of this and the impact something like this might have in our offseason, but, the posters here clearly aren't capable of accepting that this could even be true to even get into a football conversation about this. She was worked on a LOT of projects, and there are a LOT of people who know her in LA, but I guess its out of the question I could be one of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Honestly, I wouldnt know...I obviously didnt Google her, had no reason to. At this point, I dont care if peeps don't want to beleive I know her or the conversation. I found the information surprising and interesting when I heard it, and thought I would share it with the board...clearly that was a mistake, and will think twice next time something like this comes up. I mean, I expected some of this, but thought there would be at least some people talking about the football side of this and the impact something like this might have in our offseason, but, the posters here clearly aren't capable of accepting that this could even be true to even get into a football conversation about this. She was worked on a LOT of projects, and there are a LOT of people who know her in LA, but I guess its out of the question I could be one of them... Seeing as you live in Cheektowaga, probably not. hahahaha.... .....lmao... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Her son Sam Cassell has had a hell of an NBA career....also...when did team start bring players moms into the war room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Yeah, this is definitely a bunk story...who knows, maybe it's true that she said that, not doubting you, but she was probably just misinformed because the whole thing doesn't make a shred of sense...wouldn't the Jets be a more worrisome situation for the Pats? Currently, the Jets probably would also be a threat, but when the NE front office started looking at franchising Cassel, Farve was still in the hunt to lead the Jets to the playoffs...so they were probably not as big of a threat then...plus, on one of the Pre game shows a while back when the franchise talk came up, they said that Jets were said not to be too high on Cassel and not likely to pursue him when they were talking about potential suitors. But who knows how much truth there is to that, I mean the Jets were still in the playoff hunt at the time, so they probably would say that because of now wanting to tick off Farve... Plus she said that they didnt want him to go anywhere in the division, but she mentioned Buffalo was one that was apparently very interested in him and what made the decision a must. Truthfully, I think NE would be stupid NOT to franchise him, regardless if they were worried he might go in the division. Especially if Brady knee rehab keeps going so poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 OK, I GIVE UP! I must be making it up because you say so...I guess I dont really get a paycheck from Entertainment Partners, I didnt work on "My Own Worst Enemy" because google can list cast and crew info and I have been planning this scheme for months because I have nothing better to do. You're trying too hard to prove your "insider" status. That alone indicates how unreliable you are and no one with legit contacts posts as much as you have in this thread alone. We don't care where your paycheck comes from, nor the car you drive. But when you come onto this board an make claims backed up by nothing you should expect to get questioned. You've certainly livened things up on Championship Sunday, but your credibility is zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Seeing as you live in Cheektowaga, probably not. hahahaha.... .....lmao... Wow, I can't beleive you made a post and didnt mention Mike Leach...considering, thats about all you post about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Her son Sam Cassell has had a hell of an NBA career....also...when did team start bring players moms into the war room? True, but Matt's dad, Seymour Cassel was awesome in all those old John Cassavetes movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 You're trying too hard to prove your "insider" status. That alone indicates how unreliable you are and no one with legit contacts posts as much as you have in this thread alone. We don't care where your paycheck comes from, nor the car you drive. But when you come onto this board an make claims backed up by nothing you should expect to get questioned. You've certainly livened things up on Championship Sunday, but your credibility is zero. First off, I balked at mentioning my care when I was ASKED in the very first reply to this post what car I drive...I only caved when Dan lightened up the mood about it... Don't beleive me, I am done trying to validate it, and quite honestly, I don't really care. I only went to the lengths I did because I was pushed, and quite honestly, I was stupidly hopeful we could actually get passed that part and intelligently talk about the topic at hand, but this board is clearly not capable of that, and that is fine, eveyone is entititled to their opinnion. If anyone wants to discuss the football implications, that would be great and I am all ears...if you don't believe the posts, then fine, I only respecitively now ask for you to please move on to another thread because you made your point of not believing, and that is fine, but I would like to see if anyone would like to discuss the football implications because this conversatoin did happen and I am very intrigued on what it might mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 First off, I balked at mentioning my care when I was ASKED in the very first reply to this post what car I drive...I only caved when Dan lightened up the mood about it... Don't beleive me, I am done trying to validate it, and quite honestly, I don't really care. I only went to the lengths I did because I was pushed, and quite honestly, I was stupidly hopeful we could actually get passed that part and intelligently talk about the topic at hand, but this board is clearly not capable of that, and that is fine, eveyone is entititled to their opinnion. If anyone wants to discuss the football implications, that would be great and I am all ears...if you don't believe the posts, then fine, I only respecitively now ask for you to please move on to another thread because you made your point of not believing, and that is fine, but I would like to see if anyone would like to discuss the football implications because this conversatoin did happen and I am very intrigued on what it might mean. I'm not saying I don't believe you dude. I'm saying I don't believe what she said, or more likely, she was misinformed...why would the Pats be worried about a three year deal from the Bills if he is likely to get longer, more lucrative offers from other clubs. Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I think the Jets would appear as a lot more of a threat to poach Cassell. How would the Pats or Cassell's mom know if and what the Bills are going to offer him at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'm not saying I don't believe you dude. I'm saying I don't believe what she said, or more likely, she was misinformed...why would the Pats be worried about a three year deal from the Bills if he is likely to get longer, more lucrative offers from other clubs. Makes no sense. As I said, I dont know where she got the length of the deal from, could be her assumptions, could be what her agent was hearing, could be what her agent was targeting based on his age. Agents now are following Larry Fitzgeralds route where you look to position your player for 3 or 4 big contracts by timing the deals to come due more times in the players prime. So, they may be looking for a 3 or 4 year deal for Cassel so he can land another couple big contracts in his prime playing career. So, maybe this is why she said that and assumed Buffalo was going to offer it since we said to be so interested...who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 What kind of car do you drive? probably one of those gay Smart cars..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'm gaining insight as to why there is so much garbage on tv... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'm not saying I don't believe you dude. I'm saying I don't believe what she said, or more likely, she was misinformed...why would the Pats be worried about a three year deal from the Bills if he is likely to get longer, more lucrative offers from other clubs. Makes no sense. Just to further illustrate my point about why they MIGHT be targeting a 3 or 4 yar contract, look at his age. He is 26, if he signs a 3 year deal, he can sign another huge 4 year deal at 29 and possibly sign another big contract at 33 or so giving him 3 big paydays. If he signs say a 5 year deal, then he is 31 or 32 when he signs his next big deal which is likely his only other big pay day... A lot of agents and players are starting to look at deals like this to maximize a players earning capability over his career. So again, it may be what his agent is looking at and she assumed we were going to offer this based on our percieved interest. She didnt say there was a structured contract in place. His agent has been speculating all season about what he might be looking at in terms of contracts from teams this offseason, that his job, so I am sure this is most likely where she got that from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'm gaining insight as to why there is so much garbage on tv... My buddy Bill was the production coordinator on that reality show "Mammas Boys" and said when the show was done he said. "Man, this show is awful and is everything that is wrong with television...this is why it will probably be a big hit!" lmao... Although he wasn't complianing when he was on location in Fiji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 My buddy Bill was the production coordinator on that reality show "Mammas Boys" and said when the show was done he said. "Man, this show is awful and is everything that is wrong with television...this is why it will probably be a big hit!" lmao... Although he wasn't complianing when he was on location in Fiji. Who is Bill's Mom? Mrs McNabb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Who is Bill's Mom? Mrs McNabb? Donovan's mom is in show business as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Donovan's mom is in show business as well... But does her name show up on imdb.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 But does her name show up on imdb.com? Not sure...I'll go type in "Chunky Soup Commercials". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Not sure...I'll go type in "Chunky Soup Commercials". Man, you guys are hilarious...does it somehow make you feel better to bash others and go out of your way to discredit them...you got some kind of Internt Napolean complex of something...geesh. Anyway...back to the topic at hand...just an FYI, every single post and thread on this board that has anything to do with who the Bills will sign, draft, hire, or fire is absolutely ridiculous, pure speculation, and has zero validity until it actually happens. All posts are speculation... All I did was share some inside info that was given to me...it is no more relevant than all those mock drafts, which coach we should have or will hire to replace DJ, etc. Just some new speculative info I got and shared with you... The part that stands out to me is that based on my conversation with her, its possible the Bills MAY have some interest in looking at a new direction at QB, or at the very least, may want to bring someone in to compete for the #1 job...too bad no one has any interest in discussing the football side of this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Man, you guys are hilarious...does it somehow make you feel better to bash others and go out of your way to discredit them...you got some kind of Internt Napolean complex of something...geesh. Anyway...back to the topic at hand...just an FYI, every single post and thread on this board that has anything to do with who the Bills will sign, draft, hire, or fire is absolutely ridiculous, pure speculation, and has zero validity until it actually happens. All posts are speculation... All I did was share some inside info that was given to me...it is no more relevant than all those mock drafts, which coach we should have or will hire to replace DJ, etc. Just some new speculative info I got and shared with you... The part that stands out to me is that based on my conversation with her, its possible the Bills MAY have some interest in looking at a new direction at QB, or at the very least, may want to bring someone in to compete for the #1 job...too bad no one has any interest in discussing the football side of this... OK...I'll talk about the football side even though I know the same thing has been said already in this thread...name one thing from our coaching staff or front office that has indicated that they have any intention of not being 100% behind Trent Edwards? I mean, you could even argue that Trent was the main reason that the same coaching staff was put in place. There is nothing that supports that the Bills are prepared to move on in regards to Trent besides what you have posted in this thread. That is why so many people find it hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I am amazed at the amount of time and energy some people here use to rip another poster down without ever addressing the real issue here. Are the Bills totally sold on TE as the franchise QB or not? I hope not. I hope the FO brings in a veteran or high draft pick to really compete for the QB position. Not just a career backup,but a guy that could realistically compete for the starting job. I'm not sold on TE,and I think he needs to win the job,not have it handed to him. Regardless of whether Alphadawg knows Cassels family or not,his post brings up a legitimate point worth discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I am amazed at the amount of time and energy some people here use to rip another poster down without ever addressing the real issue here. Are the Bills totally sold on TE as the franchise QB or not? I hope not. I hope the FO brings in a veteran or high draft pick to really compete for the QB position. Not just a career backup,but a guy that could realistically compete for the starting job. I'm not sold on TE,and I think he needs to win the job,not have it handed to him. Regardless of whether Alphadawg knows Cassels family or not,his post brings up a legitimate point worth discussing. Thanks for the post...I expected some of it, but cant believe how little was discussed about the actual football side of this thing...its all good though...FYI, I dont know anyone else in the family, just her as worked with her a few times...all her sons all pro athletes whcih I found amazing (the others play baseball). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Thanks for the post...I expected some of it, but cant believe how little was discussed about the actual football side of this thing...its all good though... Why put resources into a position that is in not as dire a need as others? It's bad management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Why put resources into a position that is in not as dire a need as others? It's bad management. Really? Did you even watch the Bills this year? Trent was not exactly superb in our 5-1 start and constantly struggled under pressure. Then the last half the year he played as bad as JP has ever played, seriously regressed and hasnt stayed healthy in any season since high school... So, what on earth would ever lead you to believe we are set at this position? Name one thing he did to warrant this kind of support? Dont even talk about the comeback wins...the Raiders and Rams both handed us those games when they stopped blitzing and pressuring Trent in fourth. Trent can NOT progress through his reads fast enough when under pressure. As a result, he started making bad throws and fumbling, which further regressed his cofidence and so called poise. This led to the quick check down to the line of scrimmage when his hot route wasnt there which led to him not even seeing wide open WR's on the other side of the field. He often had throws available but was too indecisive to throw it and ended up throwing it late for a pick, holding the ball too long and taking a sack/fumble, or checking down to the line of scrimmage. I hope he gets it together, but man, his body of work has NOT shown anything that says we are solid at QB and that hes franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Regardless of their ineptitude, and regardless of what they say publicly, I would be shocked if the Bills were sold on Trent. He hasnt shown a consistent ability to do several of the things that good NFL quarterbacks need to do to be good. Stay healthy, throw the ball and complete the ball downfield, read defenses, get wins, play in bad weather, play consistent, understand different defenses, know when to check down and when to try to make a play, etc. They could be fairly happy with his progress without being close to being sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Really? Did you even watch the Bills this year? Trent was not exactly superb in our 5-1 start and constantly struggled under pressure.... He was being talked about as a league MVP candidate through the 5-1 start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Really? Did you even watch the Bills this year? Trent was not exactly superb in our 5-1 start and constantly struggled under pressure. Then the last half the year he played as bad as JP has ever played, seriously regressed and hasnt stayed healthy in any season since high school... So, what on earth would ever lead you to believe we are set at this position? Name one thing he did to warrant this kind of support? Dont even talk about the comeback wins...the Raiders and Rams both handed us those games when they stopped blitzing and pressuring Trent in fourth. Trent can NOT progress through his reads fast enough when under pressure. As a result, he started making bad throws and fumbling, which further regressed his cofidence and so called poise. This led to the quick check down to the line of scrimmage when his hot route wasnt there which led to him not even seeing wide open WR's on the other side of the field. He often had throws available but was too indecisive to throw it and ended up throwing it late for a pick, holding the ball too long and taking a sack/fumble, or checking down to the line of scrimmage. I hope he gets it together, but man, his body of work has NOT shown anything that says we are solid at QB and that hes franchise QB. You are exaggerating his ineffectiveness. At no point did he comes close to the horribleness of J.P. Losman. Even in the Cleveland game he wasn't as erratic as J.P. is on his best day and came back strong in the second half. If the offense was tailored around Jackson and Lynch, I don't see any reason why he can't be an adequate starter with a veteran backing him up. Honestly if you take out the three game AFC East stretch plus the first half of Cleveland I'm sure that the stats are going to look all that bad. He didn't look even as close to as bad as you try to claim he did in our wins and he didn't look as bad in the late losses as he did in the middle ones. Center, Defensive End, Tight End, Wide Receiver, Guard, Fullback, Linebacker, Safety, Defensive tackle are all higher priorities in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 He was being talked about as a league MVP candidate through the 5-1 start. Because of his 4th quarter QB Rating only...DJ was also being considered for Coach of the Year...do you think DJ is our best option at coach too? Again, I ask, did you watch every game? He was average at best through the 5-1 start. We would not have won the Rams game or Raiders game if they hadnt for some reason stopped bringing pressure in the 4th quarter. Even the announcers during those games were questioning the sudden lack of pressure being brough which allowed Trent to finally get into a groove. And in all honesty, Trent gets WAY too much credit for those comebacks. Not saying he didnt do a good job, but come on, Greer and Mitchell were instrumental in 2 of the comebacks, and so was Lycnh twice bailing Trent out to save game winning drives with 2 amazing plays. And you are noting victories against the worst D's in the league as why he is the real deal, when he struggled through the first 3 quarters of play in most of those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Regardless of their ineptitude, and regardless of what they say publicly, I would be shocked if the Bills were sold on Trent. He hasnt shown a consistent ability to do several of the things that good NFL quarterbacks need to do to be good. Stay healthy, throw the ball and complete the ball downfield, read defenses, get wins, play in bad weather, play consistent, understand different defenses, know when to check down and when to try to make a play, etc. They could be fairly happy with his progress without being close to being sold. Have to agree - based on the comments on the necessary QB traits about 1:10 into this interview, ya gotta wonder if Trent could start for... Mike Leach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 You are exaggerating his ineffectiveness. At no point did he comes close to the horribleness of J.P. Losman. Even in the Cleveland game he wasn't as erratic as J.P. is on his best day and came back strong in the second half. If the offense was tailored around Jackson and Lynch, I don't see any reason why he can't be an adequate starter with a veteran backing him up. Honestly if you take out the three game AFC East stretch plus the first half of Cleveland I'm sure that the stats are going to look all that bad. He didn't look even as close to as bad as you try to claim he did in our wins and he didn't look as bad in the late losses as he did in the middle ones. Center, Defensive End, Tight End, Wide Receiver, Guard, Fullback, Linebacker, Safety, Defensive tackle are all higher priorities in my book. I am not disputing Center, DE, and TE are not higher priorities, I totally agree with you on that aspect. I am just saying, to this point, Trent's total body of work has not shown me that QB is not also an issue. Has he shown promise at times, yes, but he also SEVERELY regressed and has made a clear indication that he also can not stay healthy...hes been hurt just about every year going back to high school...thats a long track record. I am not saying he wont develop, but to say that we are set at QB is just as absurd as saying he wont develop into a good QB. I know young QB's struggle, but its not his struggles that have me concerned. It was his regression and how horrible he handled adversity on the field to the point he literally became gun shy. You can SEE the hesitiation in him on the field, thats a bad sign for a young QB, especially one who's best characteristic was supposed to be his poise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Regardless of their ineptitude, and regardless of what they say publicly, I would be shocked if the Bills were sold on Trent. He hasnt shown a consistent ability to do several of the things that good NFL quarterbacks need to do to be good. Stay healthy, throw the ball and complete the ball downfield, read defenses, get wins, play in bad weather, play consistent, understand different defenses, know when to check down and when to try to make a play, etc. They could be fairly happy with his progress without being close to being sold. Sold for how long? I am sure that they plan to enter 09 with Trent as the starter. There is no reason not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I am not disputing Center, DE, and TE are not higher priorities, I totally agree with you on that aspect. I am just saying, to this point, Trent's total body of work has not shown me that QB is not also an issue. Has he shown promise at times, yes, but he also SEVERELY regressed and has made a clear indication that he also can not stay healthy...hes been hurt just about every year going back to high school...thats a long track record. I am not saying he wont develop, but to say that we are set at QB is just as absurd as saying he wont develop into a good QB. I know young QB's struggle, but its not his struggles that have me concerned. It was his regression and how horrible he handled adversity on the field to the point he literally became gun shy. You can SEE the hesitiation in him on the field, thats a bad sign for a young QB, especially one who's best characteristic was supposed to be his poise. OK...this is the problem I have with the whole argument and the premise of the thread as a whole...you want to give up on Trent yet you want to throw loads of money at a guy who has played one season on a Bill Belichick/Josh McDaniels coached team with Randy Moss and Wes Welker to throw to and the Pats O-Line blocking for him, with the easiest schedule in the NFL. I'll take a Kerry Collins or somewhat like that 100 times before I throw so much money at an unproven entity like Cassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'd be pretty willing to believe that the agent made up the "3 year offer from Buffalo with a BIG signing bonus" to get Cassel to toe his line in negotiations to come with the Patriots. And Cassel told his mom and the mom told you. I don't believe that the rumor is actually true though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 If the Bills don't go into the offseason, preseason, and the regular season with Trent as the unquestioned starter, they better make a trade and get Peyton Manning here. Otherwise, I'll be starting one of those... I'm done with this team threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I am not disputing Center, DE, and TE are not higher priorities, I totally agree with you on that aspect. I am just saying, to this point, Trent's total body of work has not shown me that QB is not also an issue. Has he shown promise at times, yes, but he also SEVERELY regressed and has made a clear indication that he also can not stay healthy...hes been hurt just about every year going back to high school...thats a long track record. I am not saying he wont develop, but to say that we are set at QB is just as absurd as saying he wont develop into a good QB. I know young QB's struggle, but its not his struggles that have me concerned. It was his regression and how horrible he handled adversity on the field to the point he literally became gun shy. You can SEE the hesitiation in him on the field, thats a bad sign for a young QB, especially one who's best characteristic was supposed to be his poise. By the way, everyone blames JP for at least 4 of our losses this year. Well why was JP on the field? Because Trent was hurt, again. History shows that this is a high probability year to year that he will miss 2 or 3 games, possibly more, based on his injury history. That means every year, there is a good chance we will need to depend on a backup QB to get us 2, 3, maybe even 4 or more wins. That means, even if Trent becomes good, if he cant stay on the field we are relying on a back up QB to get us in the playoffs and win us a handful of games each year...another reason why I believe this guy is no where near entrenched as our QB of the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Sold for how long? I am sure that they plan to enter 09 with Trent as the starter. There is no reason not to. There is no reason not to because they don't have another player. Put it this way, if they had signed Kurt Warner, or a player of his ability to be the back-up this year, Trent would not be a guaranteed starter this year. The same way that Leinart wasn't a guaranteed starter in AZ although the team wanted him to be. If Losman played better in 2007, Trent wouldnt be the starter here either (but he obviously didnt). Trent has showed promise, and is pretty good right now. He still has a LOT of serious question marks going into his third season. I do expect him to be the starter in 2009 but that is only because I think we have several bigger needs and I dont expect us to have a viable back-up starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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