Last Guy on the Bench Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 2004 Avg. 8.8 YPC (on only 71 carries, however) 2005 Avg. 6.4 YPC 2006 Avg. 6.1 YPC (OK, that's not really all I need to know. But those are some crazy yards per carry. I don't know of any other workhorse running back in the draft averaging over 6 yards during two full seasons of work.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 He's also a huge threat catching the ball coming out of the backfield...honestly, the more I hear about this guy the more I think his style would fit perfectly with our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 since he gets to play powerhouses like Stanford, Washington, Washington State, Arizona and Oregon, he better have real good numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Toboggan M.D Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 since he gets to play powerhouses like Stanford, Washington, Washington State, Arizona and Oregon, he better have real good numbers... Arizona and Oregon are pretty underrated programs. PAC 10 is a very strong football conference so i dont know where the knock on marshawn lynchs ability is. He also plays against USC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Arizona and Oregon are pretty underrated programs. PAC 10 is a very strong football conference so i dont know where the knock on marshawn lynchs ability is. He also plays against USC. USC is their toughest opponent(and a VERY tough one, ill give them that). but after that its a dropoff to UCLA. Oregon St is ok... arizona state is... ok, i guess. i dont know. watching as much SEC and Big 10 as i do, the Pac-10 just looks so weak. its hard for me to get behind a player coming out of there that isnt from USC. the last 2 "great" players that came out of that offense were Aaron Rogers and JJ Arrington... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Arizona and Oregon are pretty underrated programs. PAC 10 is a very strong football conference so i dont know where the knock on marshawn lynchs ability is. He also plays against USC. The Pac-10 is solid as a whole, but lets just say defense isn't the number one concern in that conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Git'er Done Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The Pac-10 is solid as a whole, but lets just say defense isn't the number one concern in that conference. Everyone raves about Maurice Drew, Reggie Bush, those guys are doing alright in the Pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Git'er Done Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The Pac-10 is solid as a whole, but lets just say defense isn't the number one concern in that conference. Most college teams have some games that can pad stats. Auburn played UB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Do you guys really think Marv is going to take a player with character concerns?? I don't! Also, I saw one of his interviews on NFL Network and the guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Not gonna Happen!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The Pac-10 is solid as a whole, but lets just say defense isn't the number one concern in that conference. It has that reputation, but is it deserved? They played 8 games against the Pac-10 this year. 6 of those teams had run defenses ranked 42nd or better, which means they were in the top third of all Division 1 teams and on average they were ranked 27th. Stanford (117) and Oregon (78), the other two games, drag the average down to 44. That's still not that bad. Lynch ran for 100 yards against four of them. The remaining two were against USC and UCLA, tied for 9th in the country against the run. Lynch posted 88 and 81 yards respectively against them, with 20 carries in each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I wouldn't expect an early pick to be used on a RB, but ya never know. Bush wouldn't surprise me in the 3rd-4th round though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 USC is their toughest opponent(and a VERY tough one, ill give them that). but after that its a dropoff to UCLA. Oregon St is ok... arizona state is... ok, i guess. i dont know. watching as much SEC and Big 10 as i do, the Pac-10 just looks so weak. its hard for me to get behind a player coming out of there that isnt from USC. Yeah, the Big 10 sure looked great. What were they, like 2-5 in their bowl games and their 2 "elite" teams both got dismantled. Once they start playing games outside their conference they are exposed as weak teams. At least the Pac 10 went .500 in their bowl games, which isn't great but is much better than that power conference Big 10. Trying to knock Lynch because of the conference he played in is a joke. The guy can play. That being said the last thing I want to see is the Bills use their #1 pick on a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Do you guys really think Marv is going to take a player with character concerns?? I don't! Also, I saw one of his interviews on NFL Network and the guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Not gonna Happen!!!! Hit the nail on the head. I see Marv and the boys steering way clear of Marshaun Lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 USC is their toughest opponent(and a VERY tough one, ill give them that). but after that its a dropoff to UCLA. Oregon St is ok... arizona state is... ok, i guess. i dont know. watching as much SEC and Big 10 as i do, the Pac-10 just looks so weak. its hard for me to get behind a player coming out of there that isnt from USC. the last 2 "great" players that came out of that offense were Aaron Rogers and JJ Arrington... Pac 10 does have some dogs in it(last yr Washington/Stanford) however UCLA, USC, Oregon & Cal were all pretty good this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Hit the nail on the head. I see Marv and the boys steering way clear of Marshaun Lynch. They may consider him an upgrade from Willis in the character department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Do you guys really think Marv is going to take a player with character concerns?? I don't! Also, I saw one of his interviews on NFL Network and the guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Not gonna Happen!!!! I would think that depends upon whether or not the character concerns have any merit. The scouting staff will obviously have to look into it further, but from what I've read, I don't think there's a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Do you guys really think Marv is going to take a player with character concerns?? I don't! Also, I saw one of his interviews on NFL Network and the guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Not gonna Happen!!!! Marv has explained a few times here and there what he means by "character" and he isn't talking about their boy scout record. Marv had plenty of players whose "football character" he admired but whose basic character was not so good. Bruce Smith's trouble with alcohol and at least one drug suspension as I recall come to mind. Didn't Marv draft Moulds? Moulds was considered an off the field problem player when we took him but no one ever doubted his conduct on the field. Marv wants guys who are committed to winning, not just making big bucks. Reed, Kelly, Smith, Thurman and even Moulds for that matter, took winning and losing far more seriously than contract negotiations. Those guys seriously would have rather died than lose a single game. When they played, they gave it all and on every play. They all had chips on their shoulders and would kill you before they would let you knock it off. That's what Marv means by "character." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Do you guys really think Marv is going to take a player with character concerns?? I don't! Also, I saw one of his interviews on NFL Network and the guy is dumber than a box of rocks! Not gonna Happen!!!! The charges were dropped against Lynch by the DA because there was not enough evidence. I love the idea that if someone says something bad about you and has absolutely no proof that suddenly you have "character concerns". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 The charges were dropped against Lynch by the DA because there was not enough evidence. I love the idea that if someone says something bad about you and has absolutely no proof that suddenly you have "character concerns". Exactly. I don't get all this character stuff. Everything I know about Lynch sounds positive. He generally avoids attention, deflects credit away from himself and toward his teammates, busts his ass on the field, plays through injuries. He grew up in a tough neighborhood in tough circumstances. Toward the end of last season he was slowly becoming more of a vocal team leader, but still staying out of the limelight in terms of the press. He spontaneously drove a golf cart around the field after a big win (he said he didn't know why exactly, except that "the keys were in it"). Oh my God, arrest him. Or, on the other hand, draft him. I'm not into first round running backs unless they are very special. I'd be happy with Okoye or Willis or Brown (unlikely now) and then Hunt or Pittman etc. in the 2nd. But I would pretty excited if Marv pulled the trigger on Lynch. And given his experience with Kelly/Thomas/Reed and that of his old pal in Indy with Manning/Harrison/Edge (then Addai), he's gotta be into triplets. (Of course, who isn't into triplets? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Marv has explained a few times here and there what he means by "character" and he isn't talking about their boy scout record. Marv had plenty of players whose "football character" he admired but whose basic character was not so good. Bruce Smith's trouble with alcohol and at least one drug suspension as I recall come to mind. Didn't Marv draft Moulds? Moulds was considered an off the field problem player when we took him but no one ever doubted his conduct on the field. Marv wants guys who are committed to winning, not just making big bucks. Reed, Kelly, Smith, Thurman and even Moulds for that matter, took winning and losing far more seriously than contract negotiations. Those guys seriously would have rather died than lose a single game. When they played, they gave it all and on every play. They all had chips on their shoulders and would kill you before they would let you knock it off. That's what Marv means by "character." Totally agree. And to prove it, Marv went out on day one and signed three guys for 75 mil whose teams' records last year were a combined 13-35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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