Peter Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 PSU. 769540[/snapback] I was going to guess either OSU, PSU, or ND. I also like PSU and Joe Pa. I also am a season ticket holder for the Canes. Some of you guys are way off base about the Canes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Not necessarily. But hey, whatever gets you through the week. Point is, that's how he approacches EVERY run, and it's even worse when he has a lead blocker, I've found. 769539[/snapback] Just for that play specifically, why "not necessarily" ? The DT would have been sitting in his lap, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Just for that play specifically, why "not necessarily" ? The DT would have been sitting in his lap, no? 769557[/snapback] The DT was tied up with fowler. behind the DT, there wasn't a whole lot else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 The DT was tied up with fowler. behind the DT, there wasn't a whole lot else. 769600[/snapback] Except for the unblocked back side line backer and everyone else on the defensive line who had not been pushed back one inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makbeer Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Watch how Ronnie Brown goes at the line and then watch Willis. It's no contest. 769520[/snapback] Ronnie Brown had 15 carries for 30 yards this week, for your information. So compared to 20 for 70, yes, it's no contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 UM bad! McGaheebad! Trade him for a 7th rounder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 UM bad! McGaheebad! Trade him for a 7th rounder! 769968[/snapback] I had no idea I was going to start a firestorm by positing a simple question. I'm not insinuating that McGahee should be traded or anything. Rather, I'm saying that perhaps he needs to sit a bit. He doesn't seem motivated or like he cares at all about winning or losing. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I had no idea I was going to start a firestorm by positing a simple question. I'm not insinuating that McGahee should be traded or anything. Rather, I'm saying that perhaps he needs to sit a bit. He doesn't seem motivated or like he cares at all about winning or losing. That's all. 769986[/snapback] sorry bout that. did mean to lump you in with all the other jackasses that want willis out of buffalo asap I'm getting sick of everyone bashing and hating WM just because he's from UM. Yah maybe the guy needs to be motivated a bit, but he played well yesterday. I find it tough that a player wouldnt care about winning and losing. everyone cares about wins and losses. Willis isnt perfect. Willis isnt smart. But willis is a good back with talent. Sometimes disappointment from a close loss like yesterday can come across as not caring. Maybe this week the coaching staff can find a way to get into his head. Willis played his nuts off when he had to fight off travis henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasker Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Sitting Willis would be crazy. He played a good game, and is a star and a stud. I don't know how long he will be with the Bills, but he better play when he is with us, and he better get the ball as often as we can if we want to win. No chance at all you sit one of your best players because he didn't convert a 4th and 1 (Fowler) or based on any other judgement on this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makbeer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Ronnie Brown had 15 carries for 30 yards this week, for your information. So compared to 20 for 70, yes, it's no contest. 769962[/snapback] Hey Joe, why are you ignoring your boy Ronnie Brown's magnificent statline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 Hey Joe, why are you ignoring your boy Ronnie Brown's magnificent statline? 770450[/snapback] Against the Steelers. Don't forget that. I'll still take the Steeler defense over the Pats'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Huh? It would have been first and goal from the 6 with a 17-7 lead. That was a win baby. 769234[/snapback] Yeah right. Keep drinking the Cool Aid. They were worried about protecting a 10 point lead so the gambled a way a potential 13 point lead for a lower potential 17 point lead. Then they did not execute the 4th and 1. As most of you know, I was against the call, but so be it .. the coach showed some balls and set some expectations for his team. After the failed 4th and 1 we were out gained by 205 yards to 5, outscored by 12-0, and we never even got another first down. Lets look at how many points the Losman led Bills actually scored in the 2nd half last season. Then consider that we had the worst red zone offense and the 31st ranked offense in the league. 1st and goal from the 6 would have been great but still no garauntee that we score. It amazes me that people think that we would have won had we scored that "potential" touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 If his "ankle" is so bad that it caused him to drop from a 4.2 to a 2.9 YPA average, why not sit him. I have several problems with the "U"-boy. 1) He doesn't have good situational awareness in the game. He never seems to find the big hole and attack it. 2) He doesn't seem to CARE whether he wins or loses. Not the type of guy I want for a feature back. 3) A-train seemed to run with a lot more power and authority than did Willis. I think that a few games on the bench might be just what the doctor ordered for "the best RB in the NFL." I think it might be time to stop drafting UM players. 769139[/snapback] Joe, I am not a fan of McGahee's attitide but unless Willis is really hurt bad I think you stick with him. I think he can make more big plays and is a back that usually gets better as the game goes on. From my vantage point the Bills OL got mauled in the second half ... starting from the failed 4th and 1 and continuing for the rest of the game. They just did not run block or pass block very well. It is imperative that McNally and Fairchild look at the film and find out what NE did in the second half. Hopefully is was not just getting beat man-on-man and is something we can correct with blocking schemes. As for A-Train, he looked good and I would like to see him get more carries. Maybe he is the short yardage back we have been looking for? Final note, the defensive player that blew up the 4th is 1 was Vince Wolfork. He penetrated deep and slowed the play up behind the line of scrimmage. I think he is from "the U" so I would not totally knock the UM players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Final note, the defensive player that blew up the 4th is 1 was Vince Wolfork. He penetrated deep and slowed the play up behind the line of scrimmage. I think he is from "the U" so I would not totally knock the UM players. 770467[/snapback] As a matter of fact, he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makbeer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Against the Steelers. Don't forget that. I'll still take the Steeler defense over the Pats'. 770453[/snapback] Get real, if WM ran for those numbers vs ANY defense, you'd be all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 Get real, if WM ran for those numbers vs ANY defense, you'd be all over him. 770518[/snapback] Well, listen to you. Say, since you're clairvoyant, how about telling me what the winning lottery numbers are for tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Well, listen to you. Say, since you're clairvoyant, how about telling me what the winning lottery numbers are for tonight? 770531[/snapback] 4,8,15,16,23,42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Yes, sit him. When the defense is on the field. I don't know what game you guys were watching but if Willis (or any other back) ran as fast as he could as soon as the ball was snapped and took the handoff and barrelled into the line like a bat out of hell he would have lost one yard instead of almost gaining one yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Yes, sit him. When the defense is on the field. I don't know what game you guys were watching but if Willis (or any other back) ran as fast as he could as soon as the ball was snapped and took the handoff and barrelled into the line like a bat out of hell he would have lost one yard instead of almost gaining one yard. 770599[/snapback] Tell that to Priest Holmes. JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 4,8,15,16,23,42 770532[/snapback] I am surprised no one on this board has pointed out the relevancy of these numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Yes, sit him. When the defense is on the field. I don't know what game you guys were watching but if Willis (or any other back) ran as fast as he could as soon as the ball was snapped and took the handoff and barrelled into the line like a bat out of hell he would have lost one yard instead of almost gaining one yard. 770599[/snapback] I could not agree more. I was up in Buffalo for the weekend and watched the game with some friends. When I logged on here this morning and saw all the talk about benching Willis in favor of A-Train I could not help but laugh out loud. WTF were people watching on Sunday? Apparently it wasn't the same game you or I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 If his "ankle" is so bad that it caused him to drop from a 4.2 to a 2.9 YPA average, why not sit him. I have several problems with the "U"-boy. 1) He doesn't have good situational awareness in the game. He never seems to find the big hole and attack it. 2) He doesn't seem to CARE whether he wins or loses. Not the type of guy I want for a feature back. 3) A-train seemed to run with a lot more power and authority than did Willis. I think that a few games on the bench might be just what the doctor ordered for "the best RB in the NFL." I think it might be time to stop drafting UM players. 769139[/snapback] I am officially abstaining from posting, for now...the idiocy is depressing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 I am officially abstaining from posting, for now...the idiocy is depressing... 770780[/snapback] Yipee! Thanks for letting us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I'm not sure i would sit Willis at this point in the season. He is lighter and looks faster than he did last season. Let's not forget, he was going up against a Patriots defense that proved that other people get hit in the game this weekend when the Messiah was MIA. Bottom line, it is too early in the season to sit McGahee. He is lighter and faster and may not realize that with the loss in weight, he will be able to fit through the holes that our mediocre line porvides (unlike last year when it was like trying to cram an elephant into an elevator). So be patient, I have the feeling he will do fairly well this weekend with a TD or maybe two. He has to do it, not only because he is in his home town, but also he can show Mike Mularkey how a running attack is supposed to work. By putting points on the board. McGahee: 23 carries, 114 yards, 2 TD's against the Fish in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Yes, he dances, which is what he is built for. Remember last year when he stopped dancing after he was called out by the NFL's worst coach? How did that work out for us? Though, he should be ashamed that he had such poor situational awareness that he didn't know it was fourth down. I agree that a first down there would not have necessarily meant a win for us. We still couldn't stop the run or the tight ends. 769207[/snapback] I agree, I'd like to see AT get some more time in the Miami game but I'm not ready to see Willis sit and maybe the angle is bothering him and all he needs is rest. Not knowing what down it was does effect the play by desperation, I don't care what Bulldog says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Everyone who agrees with the original thread should be banned. Moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Everyone who agrees with the original thread should be banned. Moronic. 771115[/snapback] Thanks for your opinion. Like it means anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I am surprised no one on this board has pointed out the relevancy of these numbers. 770763[/snapback] I played it in the Tuesday Mega Millions drawing. 16, and 42 as bonus ball hit, so I realized a net profit of two bucks. Thanks, Peter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I played it in the Tuesday Mega Millions drawing. 16, and 42 as bonus ball hit, so I realized a net profit of two bucks. Thanks, Peter! 771601[/snapback] My pleasure. Now, take a dollar from your winnings and re-invest it in the next drawing. When you win the Mega Millions, we can buy the Bills and make sure that they stay in Buffalo. By the way, for those of you that did not know, those are the numbers from Lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I would just like to remind you folks that most of you wanted to turn down a top 5 pick for MaGahee in a thread last week!!! The consensus was that a top 5 "wasn't enough." For the record, he by NO means deserves to sit, but I would take a top 5 tomorrow. Jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I would just like to remind you folks that most of you wanted to turn down a top 5 pick for MaGahee in a thread last week!!! The consensus was that a top 5 "wasn't enough." For the record, he by NO means deserves to sit, but I would take a top 5 tomorrow. Jmo. 771652[/snapback] How about a number 4 pick? That's gotta be a sure thing. We could get a monster offensive tackle and finally upgrade the o-line. It's a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I would just like to remind you folks that most of you wanted to turn down a top 5 pick for MaGahee in a thread last week!!! The consensus was that a top 5 "wasn't enough." For the record, he by NO means deserves to sit, but I would take a top 5 tomorrow. Jmo. 771652[/snapback] That was LAST week on the retard rodeo. But willis didnt convert a 4th and 1 since then. Had he made the 4th and 1, no one would want to give him up for 2 #1's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 How about a number 4 pick? That's gotta be a sure thing. We could get a monster offensive tackle and finally upgrade the o-line. It's a lock. 771657[/snapback] Nah, I'll settle for a #5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Nah, I'll settle for a #5. 771665[/snapback] Surely we could get #40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Nah, I'll settle for a #5. 771665[/snapback] Wow...that 2001 draft was a treasure chest of top flight players.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Wow...that 2001 draft was a treasure chest of top flight players.... 771675[/snapback] That was the draft where the Chargers traded out of the top spot with Atlanta so they could grab Vick. The media lambasted them at the time of the trade (How can ANYBODY pass up Vick!?). The Chargers ended up with Tomlinson and Brees. I’ll take the Chargers draft over the Falcons any day. It reminds me a lot of this year’s draft, “How can ANYBODY pass up Reggie Bush!?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 How quickly people forget he turned a blown up screen pass from a 5 yard loss in to a 20+ yard gain by shaking free from the entire pats front 7. A-Train doesn't give you that. I'm constantly shocked at the fans here. I would have expected more from a blue collar town. You act like white collar powder puff girls when something bad happens. 769312[/snapback] I couldn't agree more. Yeah that's a great idea...Sit our best player for Anthony Thomas...some of you are amazing the way you think. I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I couldn't agree more. Yeah that's a great idea...Sit our best player for Anthony Thomas...some of you are amazing the way you think. I just don't get it. 772322[/snapback] I can think of at least a handfull of players on this team that are better players than McGahee.... though I agree that sitting McGahee for Thomas is silly.... JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I can think of at least a handfull of players on this team that are better players than McGahee.... though I agree that sitting McGahee for Thomas is silly.... JDG 772324[/snapback] McGahee adds an aspect to the game that Thomas certainly doesn't. He adds finess and is a good solid back that needs to cut back on the dancing a little bit, and do his thing the way he did at the U. That involved a lot of cutting and misdirection, but people in the NFL are too quick to pull that on every play, McGahee needs to find his own rythem in this league, and with that rythem will come plenty of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 “How can ANYBODY pass up Reggie Bush!?” 771688[/snapback] I still shake my head to that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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