In space no one can hear Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 He was in a box on the Bills side of the field. (around the 10 yard line closest to the tunnel) I don't know whose box it it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Think what you want but in my view he is not welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkLessWagMore Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 actually he was at the goal line on the Bills side about 5 rows behind me. He certainly was trying to be noticed as he sat in the first row of the suite directly in the middle of the open window. I was a little disappointed that approx 90% of the fan reaction was positive. Not trying to start a debate, but if he is going to attend, then he should go out of his way to stay in the background. Of course, asking someone who made a pez dispenser out of the mother of his children to use a little common sense might be asking too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UteBills Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 actually he was at the goal line on the Bills side about 5 rows behind me. He certainly was trying to be noticed as he sat in the first row of the suite directly in the middle of the open window. I was a little disappointed that approx 90% of the fan reaction was positive. Not trying to start a debate, but if he is going to attend, then he should go out of his way to stay in the background. Of course, asking someone who made a pez dispenser out of the mother of his children to use a little common sense might be asking too much. 472052[/snapback] you sound like Romie...I have to completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 approx 90% of the fan reaction was positive. . 472052[/snapback] Excellent! Gotta love the Juice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 A friend just e-mailed me two photos. The pictures match your description of his location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UteBills Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 A friend just e-mailed me two photos. The pictures match your description of his location. 472106[/snapback] post'em lets see those bad boys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 actually he was at the goal line on the Bills side about 5 rows behind me. He certainly was trying to be noticed as he sat in the first row of the suite directly in the middle of the open window. I was a little disappointed that approx 90% of the fan reaction was positive. Not trying to start a debate, but if he is going to attend, then he should go out of his way to stay in the background. Of course, asking someone who made a pez dispenser out of the mother of his children to use a little common sense might be asking too much. 472052[/snapback] Well said. That is surprising and disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 OJ is a piece of sh--. How can anyone clap for that sh-- stain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I was wondering what to attribute the increase in slashed tires at the Ralph to. Must have been pregame warmups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 OJ is a piece of sh--. How can anyone clap for that sh-- stain? 472335[/snapback] Oh, I dunno, because it was a Bills game and he was the greatest Bill ever? Let people applaud for the player; I'm sure OJ the person gets enough stojan everyday. Why were people clapping for that alcoholic Thurman at halftime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I was wondering what to attribute the increase in slashed tires at the Ralph to. Must have been pregame warmups. 472341[/snapback] Must have been the Ginsu suite.... ooops -- how insensitive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBillsFan Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 actually he was at the goal line on the Bills side about 5 rows behind me. He certainly was trying to be noticed as he sat in the first row of the suite directly in the middle of the open window. I was a little disappointed that approx 90% of the fan reaction was positive. Not trying to start a debate, but if he is going to attend, then he should go out of his way to stay in the background. Of course, asking someone who made a pez dispenser out of the mother of his children to use a little common sense might be asking too much. 472052[/snapback] The glove didnt fit man.... The blood on the SUV came from a defect in her tampax the night before he didnt do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundy249 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 You people are the reason democracy does not work. He was proven not guilty The only one who knows is him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 You people are the reason democracy does not work.He was proven not guilty The only one who knows is him. 472352[/snapback] Actually he wasn't proven not guilty...he was not proven guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 You people are the reason democracy does not work. 472352[/snapback] Yep--OJ is a fully vindicated hero in Cuba... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 You people are the reason democracy does not work.He was proven not guilty The only one who knows is him. 472352[/snapback] This reminds me: I saw a comedian out in L.A. when the Kobe Bryant trial was going on. He said this: "Everyone out here is talking about the Kobe Bryant rape trial. 'Do you think he would do that? Is she just setting him up? She just wants his money...' Well, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of everyone talking about it. You are all just speculating, you don't know what really happened. So let's just drop it. He is innocent until the proven guilty, so stop the speculation. I mean, really, the only people who know what happened in the hotel room that night are Kobe Bryant and that girl that he raped." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 You know, I get real tired of everyone busting OJ's balls. This is a dude who thrilled people for years with his precedent-setting football prowess, and he did it in a manner like no runner before him ever could. After all those years of thrills and entertainment, he turned to movies, where he had memorable roles in memorable movies that made us laugh 'til our sides split. I can't speak for everyone, but that man entertained me for more than 25 years in one form or another. The dude has ONE BAD DAY and everyone gets in his shitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 What surprised me was that he walked in with just one other person next to him. He was right ahead of me entering the stadium. We just followed him in. He didn't have body guards or anything. Many reconized him and just waved or called out "Hi OJ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 The dude has ONE BAD DAY and everyone gets in his shitt. 472482[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Oh, I dunno, because it was a Bills game and he was the greatest Bill ever? Let people applaud for the player; I'm sure OJ the person gets enough stojan everyday. Why were people clapping for that alcoholic Thurman at halftime? 472345[/snapback] Let me know when Thurman kills a couple of people. I'll stop cheering for him. Alcoholism vs murder? Yeah, roll another doobie, Einstien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 OJ is a piece of sh--. How can anyone clap for that sh-- stain? 472335[/snapback] Amen brother! He got away with an atrocity that will forever sully Bills history. I certainly don't respect him as a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 If I ever see him, it isn't Hi OJ that I'm going to yell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 What surprised me was that he walked in with just one other person next to him. He was right ahead of me entering the stadium. We just followed him in. He didn't have body guards or anything. Many reconized him and just waved or called out "Hi OJ". 472495[/snapback] In a sick way... The privacy and anonymity so many stars seek has been achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Essentially, OJ was found "not guilty" because the LAPD and DA's office proved they were totally inept. Virtually every piece of major evidence was tainted in some way. The most important pieces of evidences were mostly compromised even worse, for example: - Detectives on the scene not only didn't rope off the white Bronco with crime tape, they actually put their coffee cups on it, leaving rim marks. - One of the lead decectives took OJ's shoes home with him, and had them booked the next day, as opposed to taking them to the lab, in direct violation of department policy. - The lead criminoligist, Fun, or whatever his name was, couldn't even remember what he did with OJ's blood sample after taking it, when asked to testify about the chain of custody. Judge Ito had to point out to him, watching a video, that he might have been carrying it with him in a plastic bag. - Furman was very obviously a liar. It's a virtual certainty he planted the glove. None of the glove testimony, or his on that issue, added up. He found the glove back there, but there were no broken branches in the trees to synch up with Kato's testimony about hearing a "thump". Furman also testifiied that he stood at a streetcorner for over an hour doing nothing, several hours earlier, after being informed that lead detectives had taken over juristiction from him. He testified quite specifically that once given a directive such as that, he wouldn't "take the lead" without informing his superiors; that's why he was just standing around doing nothing. Yet, he later testified that he walked right by these same superiors in OJ's living room, without saying a word, out the door to conduct an independent investiation in which he found the glove. - The most critcial piece of evidence, the Bronco with DNA samples of OJ and both victims, was kept completely unsecured. Several people testified that they "sight-see'd" the vehicle, and one person even said on the stand that he took some paperwork out of the car as a keepsake. IMO the jury did their job. You can't convict somebody if there isn't credible evidence to support the verdict. OJ's team did their job, exposing the ineptness of the LAPD and the prosecutor's office. Like most/all posters in this thread, I believe OJ committed that crime. If I happend to ever see him in person, I probably won't say anything. He's a lot bigger than me, and I'm not nearly as fast a runner as I used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I saw Elvis sitting on the 50-yd line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 He was admiring the cuts made by the running backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitestatebillsbackers Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Amen brother! He got away with an atrocity that will forever sully Bills history. I certainly don't respect him as a human being. 472734[/snapback] He did get away with an atrocity. I don't respect him as a human being, either. But I am not willing to cede Bills history to him--even to merely sully it. In my opinion, too many honorable people have worn the uniform, coached the players, and watched from the stands for the past 46 years to allow the actions of one cretin to mar this team's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30dive Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Well done Don. If I need a lawyer I'm calling you! I really don't care if your a lawyer or not.....You did this at 3:25am. Maybe the LAPD could use you! Also, in a number of years when OJ is lying in his death bed, I'm quite certain that in his final minutes on earth the Juice will be scared shitless. Essentially, OJ was found "not guilty" because the LAPD and DA's office proved they were totally inept. Virtually every piece of major evidence was tainted in some way. The most important pieces of evidences were mostly compromised even worse, for example: - Detectives on the scene not only didn't rope off the white Bronco with crime tape, they actually put their coffee cups on it, leaving rim marks. - One of the lead decectives took OJ's shoes home with him, and had them booked the next day, as opposed to taking them to the lab, in direct violation of department policy. - The lead criminoligist, Fun, or whatever his name was, couldn't even remember what he did with OJ's blood sample after taking it, when asked to testify about the chain of custody. Judge Ito had to point out to him, watching a video, that he might have been carrying it with him in a plastic bag. - Furman was very obviously a liar. It's a virtual certainty he planted the glove. None of the glove testimony, or his on that issue, added up. He found the glove back there, but there were no broken branches in the trees to synch up with Kato's testimony about hearing a "thump". Furman also testifiied that he stood at a streetcorner for over an hour doing nothing, several hours earlier, after being informed that lead detectives had taken over juristiction from him. He testified quite specifically that once given a directive such as that, he wouldn't "take the lead" without informing his superiors; that's why he was just standing around doing nothing. Yet, he later testified that he walked right by these same superiors in OJ's living room, without saying a word, out the door to conduct an independent investiation in which he found the glove. - The most critcial piece of evidence, the Bronco with DNA samples of OJ and both victims, was kept completely unsecured. Several people testified that they "sight-see'd" the vehicle, and one person even said on the stand that he took some paperwork out of the car as a keepsake. IMO the jury did their job. You can't convict somebody if there isn't credible evidence to support the verdict. OJ's team did their job, exposing the ineptness of the LAPD and the prosecutor's office. Like most/all posters in this thread, I believe OJ committed that crime. If I happend to ever see him in person, I probably won't say anything. He's a lot bigger than me, and I'm not nearly as fast a runner as I used to be. 472752[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Oh, I dunno, because it was a Bills game and he was the greatest Bill ever? Let people applaud for the player; I'm sure OJ the person gets enough stojan everyday. Why were people clapping for that alcoholic Thurman at halftime? 472345[/snapback] OJ deserves whatever verbal abuse or otherwise he gets. There is no distinction between OJ the person and OJ the player; both are double-murderers. I sat in section 130 on Sunday and couldn't observe the reaction because I was very close to the field, but the tenor of the response and craned necks was such that I thought people viewed the man as a sideshow but did not evince outward support. In my view, there is a big difference between an alcoholic who admits his faults and works to help others and a man who murders the mother of his children. At least now OJ can cross the dugout suites at the Ralph off as potential locations for the "real killer(s)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 How ironic- OJ Simpson, Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. All in boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col_forbin Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Excellent! Gotta love the Juice! 472100[/snapback] If the glove doesn't fit, you must be in a luxury suite!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Actually he wasn't proven not guilty...he was not proven guilty. 472356[/snapback] Don't want to split hairs - and my British understanding of the US judicial process may not be 100% - but OJ was proven not guilty and acquitted of all charges in a criminal court. Technically speaking he was not guilty of the crime he was charged for. In a civil court OJ was found to be liable for the deaths - he was not found guilty in that sense of the phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB27 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 IF THE GLOVE DOESN'T FIT, YOU MUST AQUIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Let me know when Thurman kills a couple of people. I'll stop cheering for him. Alcoholism vs murder? Yeah, roll another doobie, Einstien. 472500[/snapback] Actually, an alcoholic is probably more likely to kill somebody... It is this kind of thinking that makes light of the situation and ends up with the problem drinker behind the wheel going unnoticed. The numbers speak for themself... Especially on the water. Everyday people are being killed. Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith just happened to be lucky. Who was the dude the Bills picked up from Detroit in the late 80's (Reggie Rogers?)that wiped out the kids?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Don't want to split hairs - and my British understanding of the US judicial process may not be 100% - but OJ was proven not guilty and acquitted of all charges in a criminal court. Technically speaking he was not guilty of the crime he was charged for. In a civil court OJ was found to be liable for the deaths - he was not found guilty in that sense of the phrase. 472833[/snapback] Well, you'd be wrong. In a US court it is up to the prosecution to prove guilt. If they do not prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, the jury must find the defendant not guilty. The defense does not prove "not guilty". He was aquited because the prosecution didn't prove him guilty. You are correct when you say "Technically speaking he was not guilty of the crime he was charged for". But he wasn't "proven" not guilty...he simply was not proven guilty. so he was "found" not guilty. In Civil court the standard is different. They are not bound by "reasonable doubt" but by the preponderance of the evidence (where's the damn spell check?). I'm neither supporting nor attacking OJ. Just wanted to help clear up your confusion with US law procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlee9973 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 He was in a box on the Bills side of the field. (around the 20 yard line closest to the tunnel) I don't know whose box it it was. 472020[/snapback] He Was there My mother in law shook his hand. She said he was drinking diet Pepsi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 He Was there My mother in law shook his hand. She said he was drinking diet Pepsi 473064[/snapback] She said he was drinking "diet Pepsi". DIET Pepsi? Did she taste it? Did she ask the Juice, "Yo, OJ...what's in the cup?" Did he shake her hand and say, "You know, miss, this is simply a cup of diet Pepsi...in case anyone asks what I was drinking."? Perhaps our friend the Plastic Cup can weigh-in on this vital issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 He Was there My mother in law shook his hand. She said he was drinking diet Pepsi 473064[/snapback] Shake his hand? I think if I ever came across OJ, I wouldn't acknowledge him at all. Then again, maybe I'd make some snide remark about, "How is the search for the real killer going?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 DonInBuffalo, you are wrong on all your counts. There was more evidence for OJ's guilt than I have ever seen. What got OJ off was that they found the 12 stupidest people in LA that they could. One juror after the trial said "They didn't prove to me that blood has DNA." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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