Congrats coach McDermott!

[SoonerBillsFan]

This is why I say Fire Beane.  Many on here have noted since the start of the offseason (interviews at the combine is when I first noticed) a seeming "disagreement" between McDermott and Beane in regards to the team. The whole Lockstep seems to be out of sync.

 

McDermott said we needed to be able to stretch the field on offense, I specifically remember him saying that, and then... Nada in the draft.  I would like to see what McDermott could do if he had a GM who could hit on his 1st - 3rd round picks better. Better DL, LB, DB and esp WR!  Maybe then we can see the Defense, and offense, that McDermott envisions.

 

That said, Congrats to coach on his achievement. 

[mannc]

I confess that I’ve been on the “fire McDermott” train at various times…last week I was thinking that if he was fired, McDermott would immediately be hired by the Phins or Jets and would be a pain in our ass for years to come…

Edited 2 hours ago by mannc

[jkeerie]

10 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

This is why I say Fire Beane.  Many on here have noted since the start of the offseason (interviews at the combine is when I first noticed) a seeming "disagreement" between McDermott and Beane in regards to the team. The whole Lockstep seems to be out of sync.

 

McDermott said we needed to be able to stretch the field on offense, I specifically remember him saying that, and then... Nada in the draft.  I would like to see what McDermott could do if he had a GM who could hit on his 1st - 3rd round picks better. Better DL, LB, DB and esp WR!  Maybe then we can see the Defense, and offense, that McDermott envisions.

 

That said, Congrats to coach on his achievement. 

The worst thing that happened last year was Josh winning MVP with a bunch of no name receivers.  It convinced Beane that he didn't need to provide better weapons for Josh so he used the draft on defense.  It also made Brady look good as an OC.  

[Captain Hindsight]

16 minutes ago, mannc said:

I confess that I’ve been on the “fire McDermott” train at various times…last week I was thinking that if he was fired, McDermott would immediately be hired by the Phins or Jets and would be a pain in our ass for years to come…

McDermott is a coach I both love and hate. 

[Puckman5]

2 hours ago, Billsfed1 said:

In McDermotts first season as head coach of the Buffalo Bills, he snapped the longest active playoff drought amongst the four major professional sports leagues, and he did it with Jo…I mean Nathan Peterman and Tyrod Taylor.

 

Did Allen help with the win totals?  Sure.  But I’d argue McDermott was going to be good regardless based on his initial results.

 

Also there’s more to a football team than one guy as we all know, this is a well deserved accolade

I'll stand by Josh bailing out the defense far more than the defense taking over to win games.  I've never ripped our defensive players, but I'm no fan of the defensive system we play.  Are we saying his body of work as a defensive head coach is acceptable because he made average chicken salad out of chicken crap his first year?  Is Josh as lucky to have McDermott as head coach as McDermott is lucky to have Josh as his QB?   Good leader, below average coach.  

[nosejob]

4 hours ago, mannc said:

McDermott also had a very strong game yesterday.  He coached to win…and he did.

Hope he can do it 2 weeks in a row.

[nosejob]

40 minutes ago, Puckman5 said:

I'll stand by Josh bailing out the defense far more than the defense taking over to win games.  I've never ripped our defensive players, but I'm no fan of the defensive system we play.  Are we saying his body of work as a defensive head coach is acceptable because he made average chicken salad out of chicken crap his first year?  Is Josh as lucky to have McDermott as head coach as McDermott is lucky to have Josh as his QB?   Good leader, below average coach.  

If it weren't for CB and JP, would we all be pitchforks and torches for playing our DBs beyond 1st down markers?....allowing easy first downs while guarding against "the big play"? I'm surprised the neighbors didn't call the cops on me going full out Clark Griswold during the 1st half.

 

BTW, that whole first half was a bad DE'JA'VU JUJU.

Edited 1 hour ago by nosejob

[RyanC883]

Both those guys have something McD doesn't.  Meanwhile, McD has something both of those guys would have loved to have on their team.  

37 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

The worst thing that happened last year was Josh winning MVP with a bunch of no name receivers.  It convinced Beane that he didn't need to provide better weapons for Josh so he used the draft on defense.  It also made Brady look good as an OC.  

 

Bean should be gone.  Bean has spent an inordinate amount of cap space and draft capital on the front 7 with nothing to show for it.  Meanwhile, he has totally ignored and/or botched the WR position.  

 

Not a huge fan of McD and the way the defense aligns, but it would be nice if someone in the front 4 got pressure.  Groot is a total disappointment.  AJ is pretty much as advertised.  

[DrDawkinstein]

50 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

This is why I say Fire Beane.  Many on here have noted since the start of the offseason (interviews at the combine is when I first noticed) a seeming "disagreement" between McDermott and Beane in regards to the team. The whole Lockstep seems to be out of sync.

 

McDermott said we needed to be able to stretch the field on offense, I specifically remember him saying that, and then... Nada in the draft.  I would like to see what McDermott could do if he had a GM who could hit on his 1st - 3rd round picks better. Better DL, LB, DB and esp WR!  Maybe then we can see the Defense, and offense, that McDermott envisions.

 

That said, Congrats to coach on his achievement. 

 

There is a lot of "smoke" online today about a growing rift between McD and Beane, exacerbated by the Ingram/Slay situation.

 

As much as I have bagged on McD and want him replaced, I could see making a move at GM first.

 

Beane has been very good, with his Marketing background he is good at getting all the contracts done. But with that background, he lacks the "eye for talent" skills that a scout-based GM would have.

 

I think Brian Gaine and Terrance Gray could be good potential promotion candidates that do have a scouting/personnel background.

 

But man, it would be McD's last scapegoat lever to pull. If they replaced Beane, McD BETTER perform.

[Don Otreply]

5 hours ago, Sweats said:

Alright, i'll be the one to start it............fire him!!!

 

I second the motion! 
 

😁🍸🚬

[nosejob]

11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

There is a lot of "smoke" online today about a growing rift between McD and Beane, exacerbated by the Ingram/Slay situation.

 

As much as I have bagged on McD and want him replaced, I could see making a move at GM first.

 

Beane has been very good, with his Marketing background he is good at getting all the contracts done. But with that background, he lacks the "eye for talent" skills that a scout-based GM would have.

 

I think Brian Gaine and Terrance Gray could be good potential promotion candidates that do have a scouting/personnel background.

 

But man, it would be McD's last scapegoat lever to pull. If they replaced Beane, McD BETTER perform.

Didn't Shoen ( who was the first domino ) take Gray with him? Is Gaine actually here?. The scapegoats this year will be " a re tooling of the scouting department."

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, nosejob said:

Didn't Shoen ( who was the first domino ) take Gray with him? Is Gaine actually here?. The scapegoats this year will be " a re tooling of the scouting department."

 

Gaine went to Houston and is back after BOB got fired. Gray never left.

 

Shoen surprisingly didnt take many/any guys with him. Maybe that's a FO thing that works differently than Coaching.

[US Egg]

His legacy is at a point where it’ll be gauged more about winning a SB with the greatest multi-dimensional phenom at the QB position in league history rather than victories….or at least getting Allen to the SB.

Edited 1 hour ago by US Egg

[Bruffalo]

26 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

Bean should be gone.  Bean has spent an inordinate amount of cap space and draft capital on the front 7 with nothing to show for it.  Meanwhile, he has totally ignored and/or botched the WR position.  

 

It's weird how they've done so well with the offensive line but cannot figure out the D-Line at all.

 

Couldn't they ask the O-Line "what traits are the hardest for you to defend against?" or review the tape and then go get the kinds of dudes that beat their line? 

 

I know I'm oversimplifying it, but it's just weird how they can't get the position locked down at all.  

[nosejob]

9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Gaine went to Houston and is back after BOB got fired. Gray never left.

 

Shoen surprisingly didnt take many/any guys with him. Maybe that's a FO thing that works differently than Coaching.

Thanks for that. I thought Gray was gone. Well something in that office ain't working.

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, nosejob said:

Thanks for that. I thought Gray was gone. Well something in that office ain't working.

 

 

Yeah, for all I know it could be Gaine and Gray putting together bad boards, but from what Ive seen in "Draft War Room" videos the decision making and "getting cute" is all Beane.

[nosejob]

3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

It's weird how they've done so well with the offensive line but cannot figure out the D-Line at all.

 

Couldn't they ask the O-Line "what traits are the hardest for you to defend against?" or review the tape and then go get the kinds of dudes that beat their line? 

 

I know I'm oversimplifying it, but it's just weird how they can't get the position locked down at all.  

That took like 4 yrs. I am on the side of do like Philly and stick with each area til done. For the most part he did with the oline. Now we don't have to even think about our next/future line for a while.

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Yeah, for all I know it could be Gaine and Gray putting together bad boards, but from what Ive seen in "Draft War Room" videos the decision making and "getting cute" is all Beane.

This I believe. Bad boards....don't believe.

[ClemsonBills]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

You and many others will suffer.  I won’t 

You like losing in the playoffs?

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, ClemsonBills said:

You like losing in the playoffs?

There’s suffering and then there’s not liking.  Two different things.  
 

I don’t like losing.

 

I don’t suffer.  
 

I don’t know for a fact that we are going to lose every season McD is our coach.  
 

Somehow, you do
 

 

[hondo in seattle]

12 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

This is why I say Fire Beane.  Many on here have noted since the start of the offseason (interviews at the combine is when I first noticed) a seeming "disagreement" between McDermott and Beane in regards to the team. The whole Lockstep seems to be out of sync.

 

McDermott said we needed to be able to stretch the field on offense, I specifically remember him saying that, and then... Nada in the draft.  I would like to see what McDermott could do if he had a GM who could hit on his 1st - 3rd round picks better. Better DL, LB, DB and esp WR!  Maybe then we can see the Defense, and offense, that McDermott envisions.

 

That said, Congrats to coach on his achievement. 

 

I don't know if I'm ready to fire Beane but if I had to terminate one of the two: it would be Beane.  Easy decision. 

 

Everybody worries about wasting Allen's prime.  I give credit to Beane for drafting Allen, but the rest of the roster tends to be rather middling.  We've never had a SB roster since Beane arrived so I'm not sure why so many call for McDermott's head on a platter.  Yeah, McDermott's made mistakes and has flaws, but the fundamental issue is we need a better roster.