Game week thread - Bills at Patriots*

[Psautcsk]

7 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:

Awful about this shooting at Brown two miles from the Bills’ hotel. That’s a lot bigger than football. 

The Bills have a player who went to college at Brown but is out for the year (Hoecht). It is a lot bigger than football.

[dcinmuncie]

4 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Lmfao no they didn’t. 

Lets put it this way

 

i had seen and heard of queefs fans before 2018

 

not the same as the pats pre dynasty 

 

is that fair?

[jethro_tull]

13 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

I think they will e good but not dynasty good.  

Completely agreed.  Let's see how they do with a winning record schedule next year.  I think (at least myself) are gun shy about Vrabel's Titans giving us the beat down in years past.  

Vrabel only went to the playoffs (3) of his (6) years with the Titans.  Even though he was handed a 9-7 playoff roster, the Titans made the conference round only once where they lost to the Chiefs.  Their best record was 12 and 5 when they lost in the division round.  The next year they crashed and burned to a 7 and 10 record.  Another dynasty for New England is wishful thinking at this point.  

[Chaos]

12 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

Bills 30-20 the Bills are a better team. Pats have had zero adversity. They are getting some Sunday. 

Self inflicted diversity is not all it is cracked up to be.  Bills and Pats are both in the upper echelon of easiest schedule this season. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Chaos

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Self inflicted diversity is not all it is cracked up to be.  Bills and Pats are both in the upper echelon of easiest schedule this season. 

I have never seen the 49ers ranked as having an easier schedule than the patriots by any metric and no Denver? lol that is straight up bizarre.  Was this preseason or something?

there is an absolute chasm between Denver/NE and the rest of the league.  The bills schedule is very easy id say and they are over .100 above the pats in SOS. the pats schedule is the easy bills schedule with three playoff/playoff adjacent teams swapped out for 1-2-3 in the draft order  
 

Not to mention bills were one of the only teams blessed with the burrow/chase bengals and a full strength ravens team.  Bills schedule has been a bit harder than SOS indicates and wayyy harder than the pats.

 

 Bills have your typical very easy schedule any given year but pats schedule has been historically easy so far…it does heat up a little down the stretch though 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Self inflicted diversity is not all it is cracked up to be.  Bills and Pats are both in the upper echelon of easiest schedule this season. 

 

 

Bills

Eagles

Texans

Chiefs

 

Pats

Giants

Titans

Raiders

 

Those are the three uncommon games between the two schedules. Pretty clear to see which schedule is significantly softer. It's actually shocking that the Pats loss one of those games. Bills will either go 1-2 or 2-1 in their uncommon games. 

Then throw in the Bills playing the Bengals with Burrow and the Pats missing Burrow (and Chase) by like 4 days.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

37 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

 

Bills

Eagles

Texans

Chiefs

 

Pats

Giants

Titans

Raiders

 

Those are the three uncommon games between the two schedules. Pretty clear to see which schedule is significantly softer. It's actually shocking that the Pats loss one of those games. Bills will either go 1-2 or 2-1 in their uncommon games. 

Then throw in the Bills playing the Bengals with Burrow and the Pats missing Burrow (and Chase) by like 4 days.

There’s gonna end up being essentially 5 uncommon games in a division race likely decided by 1 game.  People that say ‘it doesn’t matter the schedules are similar’ are kidding themselves 

 

and on top of that, the ‘uncommon’ games are the pats getting 1-2-3 in the draft order and us getting three playoff level teams which is pretty insane to think about haha. like if the pats were getting kind of bad/mediocre teams instead that wouldn’t be as big of a factor but it is three absolutely horrendous teams 

Edited 6 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

There’s gonna end up being essentially 5 uncommon games in a division race likely decided by 1 game.  People that say ‘it doesn’t matter the schedules are similar’ are kidding themselves 

 

and on top of that, the ‘uncommon’ games are the pats getting 1-2-3 in the draft order and us getting three playoff level teams which is pretty insane to think about haha. 

 

 

Agreed.

 

Forgot to throw in that the version of the Ravens we played week 1 was probably one of the best teams in the league. Pats are getting a much lesser version. Our only hope is that the Dolphins turn around is legit and sustained and they give them fits week 18.

[CincyBillsFan]

14 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I have never seen the 49ers ranked as having an easier schedule than the patriots by any metric and no Denver? lol that is straight up bizarre.  Was this preseason or something?

there is an absolute chasm between Denver/NE and the rest of the league.  The bills schedule is very easy id say and they are over .100 above the pats in SOS. the pats schedule is the easy bills schedule with three playoff/playoff adjacent teams swapped out for 1-2-3 in the draft order  
 

Not to mention bills were one of the only teams blessed with the burrow/chase bengals and a full strength ravens team.  Bills schedule has been a bit harder than SOS indicates and wayyy harder than the pats.

 

 Bills have your typical very easy schedule any given year but pats schedule has been historically easy so far…it does heat up a little down the stretch though 

 

Agree.  Strength of schedule numbers are why analytics doesn't really work very well in football.  As you point out playing the Bengals with Chase, Higgins & Burrow is a lot different then NE playing them without Chase & Burrow.  And that Raven team week one was a completely different beast from the injury ravaged Baltimore team later in the season.

 

 

4 hours ago, dcinmuncie said:

Chris Simms has been s$$$ting on this team for two years 

 

he too, can get f&&&ed 

My guess is that Simms can't abide how the Bills are building their roster around Allen.  

[Dillenger4]

Ok boys and gals. It's gamedayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!

I Billieve today.

I feel it.

We are gonna pound the Putz.

All facets will be ready and amped. This is THE game. The Bills show up and dominate.

Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[eSJayDee]

40 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

 

Bills

Eagles

Texans

Chiefs

 

Pats

Giants

Titans

Raiders

 

Those are the three uncommon games between the two schedules. Pretty clear to see which schedule is significantly softer. It's actually shocking that the Pats loss one of those games. Bills will either go 1-2 or 2-1 in their uncommon games. 

Then throw in the Bills playing the Bengals with Burrow and the Pats missing Burrow (and Chase) by like 4 days.

Those 3 games difference are somewhat offset by the fact that they play us twice whereas we play them twice.  Based on last years records, that's almost a 20 win difference for strength of schedule.

[QLBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Chaos said:

Self inflicted diversity is not all it is cracked up to be.  Bills and Pats are both in the upper echelon of easiest schedule this season. 

I’m aware that the Bills played very poorly vs ATL and Miami. That’s on the Bills! Bills have had significant and consistent injuries to deal with. Recently the LT and best DT for the Pats have suffered injuries. They will be playing the first decent team since those injuries. So what I said stands. If the Bills don’t turn the ball over, they will win.

52 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Agree.  Strength of schedule numbers are why analytics doesn't really work very well in football.  As you point out playing the Bengals with Chase, Higgins & Burrow is a lot different then NE playing them without Chase & Burrow.  And that Raven team week one was a completely different beast from the injury ravaged Baltimore team later in the season.

 

 

My guess is that Simms can't abide how the Bills are building their roster around Allen.  

Good points. I actually like CS and think he’s solid. But I just disagree. National media don’t follow the Bills like we do. I think that forces them into the generalization game because it’s easy. The Bills roster while not top 5 is not a disaster. It had weaknesses but it’s a good NFL roster. The OL is a top 8-10 group and today that is where the Bills will win the game. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

29 minutes ago, eSJayDee said:

Those 3 games difference are somewhat offset by the fact that they play us twice whereas we play them twice.  Based on last years records, that's almost a 20 win difference for strength of schedule.

 

Why would we base it on last year's record? Teams do move up and down year to year in terms of improvement and lack thereof.

 

It just so happens the Titans, Raiders and Giants if anything got worse year over year. The Pats got better. Bills fell back a bit.

[Mat68]

22 hours ago, balln said:

Coaching is better. They just run a smoother game day operation. Use of TOs. Getting on refs / getting calls. Challenges. Game plan. 
 

And I’ll say even on the player talent side they’re fairly even. In some spots. The Bills players and coaches are just high variance. Sometimes you get really good play. Sometimes you get really bad play. Sometimes you get mediocre play. Whereas this season the pats playersare very consistent with low variance. 

No one saw the Patriots on the schedule and got excited.  With a weak schedule they were able to slide by.  Fumble luck and other variables have fallen NE way all year.  Deeper dives metrics and trends tell a different story.  First time Ne sees a team again.  I think Mcdermott has a masterclass day. 

[Sierra Foothills]

@Boo Radley Boston

 

Hey Boo. Come on in and man up and get your medicine.

 

@50yrpatsfan, we'd love to hear your thoughts too.

[Buffalo716]

13 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

@Boo Radley Boston

 

Hey Boo. Come on in and man up and get your medicine.

 

@50yrpatsfan, we'd love to hear your thoughts too.

There's a few other you're leaving out lol

 

But we're better than that! They're never coming back they thought today was their Super bowl because they might get the east but they're not winning the Super bowl