newcam2012 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, davefan66 said: Regardless of who the players are in this mix, Beane should have guessed Slay wanted to go back “home”. He’s had a few players want to do the same thing. Even had Jordan Phillips say publicly if he played it would only be for the Bills. Shouldn’t be a surprise to him. Couple this with the PED twins, and it’s a bad look for Beane…it just is. As for the waiver claim. Was Slay worth the pickup this late in the season? Learn a new defense and be a more viable option versus what we have? Would he have inserted himself into a decent amount of playing time? Not sure he had enough time left in the season to do so. We may never know. Hard to really know. I think he was worth a shot for basically free. Slay is or was a better zone CB so he might have done well under McD. I guess we will never know. Quote
SirAndrew Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Joe Marino said: That’s pure blather. Why would you ever “pack up your family” to go live in Buffalo at this point? There’s a couple of months left in the season. Go find a nice hotel or live with one of the guys. Maybe try to win a Super Bowl. That reason was fake. Not sure what’s up, but he didn’t want to come play. I don’t if it’s been mentioned here but I’ve heard elsewhere. I think Slay might have thought a deal was setup with Philly. The Bills swept in amidst the tampering, and he was surprised where he ended up. Quote
davefan66 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Hard to really know. I think he was worth a shot for basically free. Slay is or was a better zone CB so he might have done well under McD. I guess we will never know. Correct. Speculation on what could have been. 1 Quote
DaggersEOD Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I'm just going by what I read on TBD. And let's not also lose sight of the fact that he couldn't even get on the field for that horrible defense that was Pittsburgh last Sunday. Imagine how bad the guy they want to replace him with is. Why are we mad that we stopped an upcoming opponent from getting better? 1 Quote
gobills1212 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 6 hours ago, SCBills said: Ok. Glad you acknowledge I’m correct. I’ll try to be nicer next time. Maybe put a glitter emoji ✨ next to Beane’s name for you. So what IS the context? I grew up and all I knew of the Bills before Josh Allen was the drought. I want one, just one, Super Bowl while my Dad, who raised me in Bills fandom, is on this earth with me. We have the most talented QB, maybe, to ever play the game. And his GM has gotten worse and worse in recent years to the point where most unbiased folks would admit this is the worst Bills team Allen has ever had around him in our contending years. KC might not even make the Playoffs. Yet we’re in a dogfight for a Wild Card. Last year of Highmark, likely zero home playoff games. New England has caught up and has a ton of cap space next year. Divisions are no longer a given. We have 20M tied up in two WR’s we knew had injury concerns.. and they’re both never healthy. We seem to have missed on our last two highly drafted weapons.. one bc of talent/immaturity and the other due to injuries and an inability to be a complete TE. We extended a chess piece to play slot, but he’s really not a reliable slot player. Credit for the OL and RB room. 100%. Kromer is amazing and they can draft, sign and develop OL like few others. But the weapons, for the investment, might be the worst rate of return in the league… for Josh Allen. The guy most of us have waited our whole Bills lives for. Not rehashing Defense anymore. You should know where I stand by now. I hate the scheme and philosophy. Think they’d be pretty good if healthy, but could see that not having any chance of happening a mile away. These are the trials and tribulations that any team faces though. Beane has taken swings. Some were hits, some were misses - all were done in the available frame work. This team is better than the Chiefs who are having a bad year. They understand sometimes you just have a bad yr due to injuries etc. Most arent trying to run Andy out of town. I think the issue arrises when everything is all negative. Only two or three teams each year might not have glaring issues. If youve been through the drought, you know how bad it can be. I think the disconnect is, some fans act like this is a 3 win team and as fans we are dealing with utter incompetence from the coach and/or GM. Take the Slay situation... he tried adding depth with someone who's been there and won before and is a year removed from a meaningful contribution with a pic in the WC game. Instead of realizing this is an attempt to improve the team, people act like he had his choice to sign Chase or Watt and chose Slay instead. Now, with hindsight we can make a stink and criticize him for doing it and it not working and losing a player. I guess losing Ingram sucks, but he wasnt the reason we were or weren't going to make it to a SB. Full picture and hindsight these aforementioned fans are going to rail on him, but like I said yesterday, they are the same fans who would be moaning and complaining if New England signed him bc they added a gritty piece of depth with SB experience. You dont become one of the best regular season teams in the last 5 yrs based solely on JA. Its a culture, and as we know it could be a whole lot worse. Im not saying be content w making the playoffs, but if a new coach or GM comes in you arent guaranteed the playoffs or to advance further. You have JA as your QB, let the man try and fix the issue now that its clear band aids arent working. We act like they are just sitting on their hands. Heck, Id have been annoyed if they did land Waddle bc that's not the #1 I wanna roll with for the next 3 yrs. It wlda been helpful this year, but we can and hopefully will do better now we know they know as contructed its not good enough. Football fandom has changed and now its we want everything right away. Fans voices are louder than ever before and while this obviously isnt the best version of this club in the past few years, the people who want to fire Beane for it is just asinine. They dont need to be coach/GM forever, but they haven't even bottomed out which is why all this is a bit much and just impatient fans being impatient fans. Injury gets old to continuously hear people who have never worked a day in the league keep complaining bc they think their GM is a bummer. Id venture to guess they are both well respected around the league. Neither of them has committed something thats a firearm offense YET. YOU might not agree w his moves, but this isn't madden. Let him come out of the weeds and see how they fix this before hanging them in town square. You do you, but not living on the edge and wanting to blow everything up while having a bit more of a measured and realistic view makes for a much more enjoyable season. They are aware the idea is to win. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. Come back off the ledge and let it play out. Edited 1 hour ago by gobills1212 1 1 Quote
26TrapDraw Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 18 hours ago, NewEra said: It’s going to get even better when an afc team claims Ingram. Especially when it’s NE 🤣 this really sucks Nostradamus is that you? So now go poach a receiver who can help us off someone’s PS roster now that we have the slot. Quote
FireChans Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: These are the trials and tribulations that any team faces though. Beane has taken swings. Some were hits, some were misses - all were done in the available frame work. This team is better than the Chiefs who are having a bad year. They understand sometimes you just have a bad yr due to injuries etc. Most arent trying to run Andy out of town. I think the issue arrises when everything is all negative. Only two or three teams each year might not have glaring issues. If youve been through the drought, you know how bad it can be. I think the disconnect is, some fans act like this is a 3 win team and as fans we are dealing with utter incompetence from the coach and/or GM. Take the Slay situation... he tried adding depth with someone who's been there and won before and is a year removed from a meaningful contribution with a pic in the WC game. Instead of realizing this is an attempt to improve the team, people act like he had his choice to sign Chase or Watt and chose Slay instead. Now, with hindsight we can make a stink and criticize him for doing it and it not working and losing a player. I guess losing Ingram sucks, but he wasnt the reason we were or weren't going to make it to a SB. Full picture and hindsight these aforementioned fans are going to rail on him, but like I said yesterday, they are the same fans who would be moaning and complaining if New England signed him bc they added a gritty piece of depth with SB experience. You dont become one of the best regular season teams in the last 5 yrs based solely on JA. Its a culture, and as we know it could be a whole lot worse. Im not saying be content w making the playoffs, but if a new coach or GM comes in you arent guaranteed the playoffs or to advance further. You have JA as your QB, let the man try and fix the issue now that its clear band aids arent working. We act like they are just sitting on their hands. Heck, Id have been annoyed if they did land Waddle bc that's not the #1 I wanna roll with for the next 3 yrs. It wlda been helpful this year, but we can and hopefully will do better now we know they know as contructed its not good enough. Football fandom has changed and now its we want everything right away. Fans voices are louder than ever before and while this obviously isnt the best version of this club in the past few years, the people who want to fire Beane for it is just asinine. They dont need to be coach/GM forever, but they haven't even bottomed out which is why all this is a bit much and just impatient fans being impatient fans. Injury gets old to continuously hear people who have never worked a day in the league keep complaining bc they think their GM is a bummer. Id venture to guess they are both well respected around the league. Neither of them has committed something thats a firearm offense YET. YOU might not agree w his moves, but this isn't madden. Let him come out of the weeds and see how they fix this before hanging them in town square. You do you, but not living on the edge and wanting to blow everything up while having a bit more of a measured and realistic view makes for a much more enjoyable season. They are aware the idea is to win. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. Come back off the ledge and let it play out. Highlighting the Chiefs’ season when discussing patience with this regime is apples to orangatuans. They have been to 5 Superbowls. We have been to zero. Man I wonder why KC fans aren’t screaming “fire Andy.” Quote
boyst Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 hours ago, RyanC883 said: it does. But it was widely reported in Pittsburgh papers that Slay wanted to start and that was why he was released. Not sure how Bean missed that. Beane's job is to make a football team, not pander to some soft ass football players emotional feelings. further, if doing this move can impact another team without truly impacting your team - than go for it. keeping slay off the Eagles roster may be a decent move since Ingram was not contributing. regardless, Slay is a soft ass chump 8 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said: Would be cool if we get a draft pick out of this lol ew gross so that's what those guys look like. makes sense they'reo n radio. Quote
SectionC3 Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago 11 minutes ago, boyst said: Beane's job is to make a football team, not pander to some soft ass football players emotional feelings. further, if doing this move can impact another team without truly impacting your team - than go for it. keeping slay off the Eagles roster may be a decent move since Ingram was not contributing. regardless, Slay is a soft ass chump ew gross so that's what those guys look like. makes sense they'reo n radio. Agree with every word, especially after Slay ran his mouth yesterday. 1 Quote
Psautcsk Posted 46 minutes ago Posted 46 minutes ago 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: Any guy afraid of the snow is not for me. Pass A Slay exists for the snow. 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted 5 minutes ago Posted 5 minutes ago The Bills would owe Darius Slay approximately $350,000 for 2 months work. I wouldn't go either. Quote
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