Bills sign Brandin Cooks

[BeastMaster]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

right, but you said that there’s no evidence.
 

Finishing towards the top of the league in yards per catch every season is evidence that he can do exactly what this team needs. Make plays downfield.  
 

He can do it, yet Josh and Brady rarely give him the chance.  

I don't think the small sample size from him is evidence of anything except that he can get downfield when teams are focused on other receivers and forget about him

 

But you guys can keep telling me that Josh Palmer is an effective starting caliber receiver all you like

[Warriorspikes51]

15 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Did anyone watch Josh's PC from today?

 

Cooks is playing and I think he's going to be a decent part of our game plan.  Josh complemented him on his high football IQ and kinda smirked when he said he's already learned most of the playbook.  The playbook comment caught my attention because the way he said it he seemed pretty genuinely pleased by how much he knows already.  Others can comment on it, but it didn't seem like the standard throwaway comment he might make in a PC.

that is really awesome, I'll watch now

 

he already memorized Joe Brady's 5 flash cards 🙃
 

the high football IQ and true professional comments certainly do stand out 

Edited 2 hours ago by Warriorspikes51

[Nihilarian]

46 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Did anyone watch Josh's PC from today?

 

Cooks is playing and I think he's going to be a decent part of our game plan.  Josh complemented him on his high football IQ and kinda smirked when he said he's already learned most of the playbook.  The playbook comment caught my attention because the way he said it he seemed pretty genuinely pleased by how much he knows already.  Others can comment on it, but it didn't seem like the standard throwaway comment he might make in a PC.

Does this mean that the offensive passing playbook is on a posted note? Seems like it, as the Texans players were laughing about how easy it was to diagnose the Buffalo offensive passing scheme.

[Capco]

23 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:

 

It will be very intriguing to see his status for this week. If he's a healthy scratch again, then damn. 

 

I felt like they would give him one more chance and somehow get him to have a come to Jesus moment, but I dunno. If he's truly done here then holy hell, I think he might be our new all time bust. 

I still think Mike Williams (RT, R1P4) in 2003 edges out Coleman.

[bills742]

 

Edited 1 hour ago by bills742

[Charles Romes]

4 minutes ago, Capco said:

I still think Mike Williams (RT, R1P4) in 2003 edges out Coleman.

Maybe not. Maybin so

[BillytheKid]

 

[Dick_Cheney]

19 minutes ago, Capco said:

I still think Mike Williams (RT, R1P4) in 2003 edges out Coleman.

 

I thought about it and I get why he is usually one of, if not the, go to pick/s, but in my mind, I factor in what's at stake for when that player is drafted. Sure, it would have been amazing to have him work out and be a bedrock of the team for a decade going forward, but those teams had an ungodly amount of problems all around.

 

With Keon, it's a lot more bleak in my opinion. Drafted to hopefully be a true game changing weapon for Josh, and a critical piece for the team to finally, finally get over the hump and win a Super Bowl, or hell, even get to one again. Instead we've gotten...yeah.

 

I think people are underestimating that side of things, and as much as I still absolutely want the guy to turn into that kind of player, it's not looking good. I really don't know what it would take. Usually, outside of a near death experience, nothing really changes a person's internal motivation to succeed or to truly reinvent themselves to become the best version of themselves possible.

[Warriorspikes51]

25 minutes ago, bills742 said:

 

we got a dawg. More of this attitude please

[North Buffalo]

Throwing toilet paper against the wall to see if it still Cooks... worth a try...

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, BeastMaster said:

I don't think the small sample size from him is evidence of anything except that he can get downfield when teams are focused on other receivers and forget about him

 

But you guys can keep telling me that Josh Palmer is an effective starting caliber receiver all you like

lol.  Did I even say that.  I said that he isn’t being used effectively. 

 

He’s a proven route runner that can get separation and can help this offense more than he has to date.
 

also, I don’t think his contract is THAT bad.  He can certainly prove to be worth a 2 year 21M contract.  

[Tanoros]

4 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

During the Beane draft years (2018-25), Coleman is the only premium draft pick (Rounds 1-3) used on a wideout. Valuing the 3 rounds at (8-5-3) a reasonable system IMO. Where do the Bills rank? They rank DEAD LAST in the NFL with 5 points!! An average NFL team spent 21 pts on WR. And basically all the top teams (KC, SF, BAL, GB) during this period spent over the average on WR. Even if you included the Traded First rounder for Diggs the Bills rank in the bottom quartile. He doesn't value receivers high enough and that's how you end up in the pickle we're in. And, yes he has not handled the cap well by resigning a bunch of his draft picks believing he had succeeded in drafting well.

You have to also add in the 3rd we gave up for Amari Cooper last year (3 points), and it was pre Bean, but it impacted Beane’s first draft and that’s the 3rd we gave up for Benjamin (3 points). Overall since 2018 we’d have the equivalent of 19 points towards receiver. Which is much closer to the average than 5. That’s not even factoring in all the other picks we gave up for Cooper, Diggs, Benjamin, which meant we had less resources for other positions, which in turn could impact future drafts. 
 

Overall, I think everyone agrees Beane should have emphasized receiver much more than he has. I’ve wanted a top receiver for quite some time, hoping that we would trade up for one. Every GM and team is going to have their own strategies and for whatever reason Beane has not valued drafting receivers high, which is so frustrating. 

[Blank Stare]

Beane will be the next guy McD scapegoats at seasons end. 

[Comebackkid]

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

He has had the most time to throw in his career this year.

how do you seperate had the most time and needed the most time?

[Psautcsk]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

lol.  Did I even say that.  I said that he isn’t being used effectively. 

 

He’s a proven route runner that can get separation and can help this offense more than he has to date.
 

also, I don’t think his contract is THAT bad.  He can certainly prove to be worth a 2 year 21M contract.  

Josh Palmer does what for this team?

[Comebackkid]

wait till he finds out that doing your 1/11 means you only get the ball 1 out of 11 times

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

Does this mean that the offensive passing playbook is on a posted note? Seems like it, as the Texans players were laughing about how easy it was to diagnose the Buffalo offensive passing scheme.

They were.  HC couldn't understand why we just left 5 to block for Josh 

47 minutes ago, BillytheKid said:

 

The first guy is 100% spot on about what type signing this is, and how its not close enough.

 

And TJ whosyomamma is correct, we aren't going to a superbowl with this roster. "No firepower " is spot on.

 

Funny how 3rd party fils with no emotional investment see it.

Edited 29 minutes ago by SoonerBillsFan

[Sojourner]

Hopefully if he starts we end up with too many Cook’s in the kitchen on game day!

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:

Josh Palmer does what for this team?

 This is the point of my original post.  He CAN get separation and run very good routes.  He CAN get deep and push defenses back to cover the 15-30 yard pass.  We’ve barely tried to let him show it.  
 

I can recall 3 great intermediate-deep  routes that led to 3 huge plays for us this season.  One of which was a game winner.  It would’ve been nice to see more of them early on, but Brady was too busy calling WR screens and Josh was too busy bailing from the pocket prematurely.  
 

to answer your question, he can help move the chains.  He could also help keep defenses honest if we took some shots with him.  But we don’t.  

[Steptide]

I liked cooks press conference. Seems like a high energy dude. Doesn't seem checked out and seems like he wants to contribute. Hope he can have some kind of impact. Even if it's just drawing coverage and making thjngs happen for another wr