mannc Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago George Pickens will be a free agent next year. He’s averaging about 100 yards per game in his first season with a competent QB. I understand the character concerns, but this is a proven boundary receiver at the peak of his career. Cost will probably be $30 million per… Should the Bills be interested? Can we afford it? Will the Cowboys franchise tag him? 1 1 1 Quote
JP51 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Not sure we should be interested need to know other options... you can afford what you choose to afford but there will be sacrifices someplace... I dont see Jerry pulling that trigger... Quote
GunnerBill Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I presume the Cowboys will try and keep him. I feel about him a bit like I did Tee last offseason. 1) I don't think he will end up on the market at the end of it all. 2) I think he would be a big upgrade to the Bills; but also... 3) He isn't the exact style of guy we need. He isn't a natural separator. And I think by now we have seen that is the type Josh best meshes with stylistically. So I'd be in on it if I have a chance to, but I am not blowing everyone out of the water to get him. He'd likely have to leave money on the table elsewhere to sign here. $30m, I'm in. If it creeps towards $35m there is a point I walk away. 4 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I presume the Cowboys will try and keep him. I feel about him a bit like I did Tee last offseason. 1) I don't think he will end up on the market at the end of it all. 2) I think he would be a big upgrade to the Bills; but also... 3) He isn't the exact style of guy we need. He isn't a natural separator. And I think by now we have seen that is the type Josh best meshes with stylistically. So I'd be in on it if I have a chance to, but I am not blowing everyone out of the water to get him. He'd likely have to leave money on the table elsewhere to sign here. $30m, I'm in. If it creeps towards $35m there is a point I walk away. I expect it will There are a ton of teams looking to elevate their WR room. And aside from Pickens, well ..the pickings are slim at WR in the FA market this coming off season. I think Beanes only chance to upgrade the room significantly will be to find a trade partner and part with some picks. 1 Quote
mannc Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I presume the Cowboys will try and keep him. I feel about him a bit like I did Tee last offseason. 1) I don't think he will end up on the market at the end of it all. 2) I think he would be a big upgrade to the Bills; but also... 3) He isn't the exact style of guy we need. He isn't a natural separator. And I think by now we have seen that is the type Josh best meshes with stylistically. So I'd be in on it if I have a chance to, but I am not blowing everyone out of the water to get him. He'd likely have to leave money on the table elsewhere to sign here. $30m, I'm in. If it creeps towards $35m there is a point I walk away. I agree the Cowboys will try to keep him, but they can’t sign everyone. They might franchise him, then try to work a trade. I’m not sure I agree about Pickens not being a separator. He’s been better than Ceedee Lamb this year and is putting up huge numbers…I don’t think that happens if you’re not getting open😀 Edited 1 hour ago by mannc Quote
skibum Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago There is no way in hell that Beane is going to shell out market value for a top-flight free agent WR in today's market. The value for the spend is just not there. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago It’s actually a pretty good Free Agent WR class expected out. George Pickens, Romeo Doubs, and Jauan Jennings are the top guys but the middle level WR group has interesting names. Mike Evans Deebo Samuel Jakobi Meyers Tutu Atwell Rashid Shaheed Keenan Allen Wandale Robinson Alec Pierce Jailen Nailor. Some other intriguing guys as well that aren’t mentioned Quote
qwksilver Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) I wonder if Jurrah signs Pickens to a long term deal if Ceedee Lamb might be available. Less of a head case and a better separator as well. Edited 1 hour ago by qwksilver Quote
mannc Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Just now, skibum said: There is no way in hell that Beane is going to shell out market value for a top-flight free agent WR in today's market. The value for the spend is just not there. So you just count on being able to get someone at the bottom of round 1? We can’t go into next season with this same kind of receiver room… Quote
GunnerBill Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, mannc said: I agree the Cowboys will try to keep him, but they can’t sign everyone. They might franchise him, then try to work a trade. I’m not sure I agree about Pickens not being a separator. He’s been better than Ceedee Lamb this year and is putting up huge numbers…I don’t think that happens if you’re not getting open😀 He separates at the catch point. He is elite at it. The best in the league. He doesn't separate at the release or in route. He separates right at the top of the route. That isn't the ideal stylistic fit for Josh IMO. I think Ceedee Lamb would be better for Josh if the Cowboys were for example willing to trade Ceedee to retain Pickens. Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago No Alec Pierce is 100% my guy. Will be expensive but not crazy Id then draft a wr Rd 1, and another rd4/5 And bring back Gabe & Hardman Shavers Pierce Shakir Palmer Gabe Rd 1 wr Rd4 wr Hardman - return guy/ insurance for injury Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, mannc said: So you just count on being able to get someone at the bottom of round 1? We can’t go into next season with this same kind of receiver room… I actually think if we decided to go end of first round there are some intriguing guys that will be available. Early yet obviously with senior bowl combine etc but I actually like this class of WR Just now, Kelly to Allen said: No Alec Pierce is 100% my guy. Will be expensive but not crazy Id then draft a wr Rd 1, and another rd4/5 And bring back Gabe & Hardman Shavers Pierce Shakir Palmer Gabe Rd 1 wr Rd4 wr Hardman - return guy/ insurance for injury Im also an Alec Pierce guy. He’ll get around where Palmer got or a little more. Just strikes me a ms a guy Bills brass would like 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I think that the Bills sign a guy in FA but try to acquire a number 1 via trade. That could be a trade up in the draft for Tyson or Tate. It could be a trade for a veteran like Higgins or Jefferson or MHJ or BTJ or Waddle. They aren’t going to try to sell everyone on this everyone eats nonsense any longer. Those that couldn’t see through the ridiculousness of it in August do in November. They’ll get a guy at the top of the depth chart, a FA AND another draft pick IMO. The WR room will look something like this IMO: - Higgins (trade) - Pierce (FA) - Shakir - Palmer - Gabe - Shavers - Brazzell (3rd round) 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, mannc said: George Pickens will be a free agent next year. He’s averaging about 100 yards per game in his first season with a competent QB. I understand the character concerns, but this is a proven boundary receiver at the peak of his career. Cost will probably be $30 million per… Should the Bills be interested? Can we afford it? Will the Cowboys franchise tag him? He's played great in Dallas opposite CeeDee Lamb. Yet he struggled at times in Pittsburgh and had a bit a diva personality. Personally I don't think he deserves WR1 money. Is he an improvement, yes? Is he a significant improvement and aligns with our offense? To me no and if meant preventing re-signing Bosa? Yeah no thanks. Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, mannc said: George Pickens will be a free agent next year. He’s averaging about 100 yards per game in his first season with a competent QB. I understand the character concerns, but this is a proven boundary receiver at the peak of his career. Cost will probably be $30 million per… Should the Bills be interested? Can we afford it? Will the Cowboys franchise tag him? this guy was too much of a head case for the Steelers to handle— a team that has the most experience handling the biggest head case WRs?! I don’t think Beane will suddenly go anti-process for a guy like this. 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that the Bills sign a guy in FA but try to acquire a number 1 via trade. That could be a trade up in the draft for Tyson or Tate. It could be a trade for a veteran like Higgins or Jefferson or MHJ or BTJ or Waddle. They aren’t going to try to sell everyone on this everyone eats nonsense any longer. Those that couldn’t see through the ridiculousness of it in August do in November. They’ll get a guy at the top of the depth chart, a FA AND another draft pick IMO. The WR room will look something like this IMO: - Higgins (trade) - Pierce (FA) - Shakir - Palmer - Gabe - Shavers - Brazzell (3rd round) When has Higgins shown to be a number 1? 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that the Bills sign a guy in FA but try to acquire a number 1 via trade. That could be a trade up in the draft for Tyson or Tate. It could be a trade for a veteran like Higgins or Jefferson or MHJ or BTJ or Waddle. They aren’t going to try to sell everyone on this everyone eats nonsense any longer. Those that couldn’t see through the ridiculousness of it in August do in November. They’ll get a guy at the top of the depth chart, a FA AND another draft pick IMO. The WR room will look something like this IMO: - Higgins (trade) - Pierce (FA) - Shakir - Palmer - Gabe - Shavers - Brazzell (3rd round) If we go round 1 WR a guy I really like is Chris Bell out of Louisville 1 1 Quote
Jay_Fixit Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I presume the Cowboys will try and keep him. I feel about him a bit like I did Tee last offseason. 1) I don't think he will end up on the market at the end of it all. 2) I think he would be a big upgrade to the Bills; but also... 3) He isn't the exact style of guy we need. He isn't a natural separator. And I think by now we have seen that is the type Josh best meshes with stylistically. So I'd be in on it if I have a chance to, but I am not blowing everyone out of the water to get him. He'd likely have to leave money on the table elsewhere to sign here. $30m, I'm in. If it creeps towards $35m there is a point I walk away. He's definitely a separator. Like 100%. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I like the guy, but he is a hothead and doubt, McBeane have an appetite for it, and we need WRs from the draft, not $30 mil. from free agency. They have to try extend McGovern and Edwards. After this year’s extensions, we don’t have the $ for a big ticket item. it may seem boring, but WR#1, LB#2, and S#3 are top priorities. Extend our excellent inside guys and even Torrence will be coming soon are optimal. 1 1 Quote
mannc Posted 55 minutes ago Author Posted 55 minutes ago 19 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He's played great in Dallas opposite CeeDee Lamb. Yet he struggled at times in Pittsburgh and had a bit a diva personality. Personally I don't think he deserves WR1 money. Is he an improvement, yes? Is he a significant improvement and aligns with our offense? To me no and if meant preventing re-signing Bosa? Yeah no thanks. I mean, look at that system he was in in Pittsburgh, with straight up awful QBs...It's true that Lamb has probably contributed to his success, but still...If I'm the Bills, I'm taking a WR high in the draft and signing Pickens or Pierce... Quote
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