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1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

She’s gotta know Ron Jeremy though, right?

I could have went there, but I have survived so many John Holmes jokes from my old man that my mind went to him first. 

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20 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That is true but trust me the Tampa defensive backfield is a mess.

 

Also helped that Dean left the game very early and never returned. He was having a standout season.

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On 11/17/2025 at 1:45 AM, gobills404 said:

Remember the excitement about Robert Foster in 2018? Happy for Shavers but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Kelvin Benjamin was the worst starting WR I have ever seen and I saw the strike season. Robert Foster should have started in his place even if he just stood motionless at the line of scrimmage. Throwing to Benjamin led to a lower passer rating than spiking the ball.

 

So the standard here is should we start Shavers over the pool of unexciting receivers on the roster now, but the question then was do we really need to play eleven players every down and if so, should one of them be Robert Foster rather than Benjamin?

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On 11/17/2025 at 3:33 AM, Scott7975 said:

For sure. Keon is a wasted spot and bad draft pick. Need to find a spot for Gabe on the roster. Is Beane ballsy enough to cut Keon for him? Probably not. 

No need to cut. Just don’t dress Keon. Simple enough. Let the kid keep munching on some humble pie 🤤

2 hours ago, mbs said:

Kelvin Benjamin was the worst starting WR I have ever seen and I saw the strike season. Robert Foster should have started in his place even if he just stood motionless at the line of scrimmage. Throwing to Benjamin led to a lower passer rating than spiking the ball.

 

So the standard here is should we start Shavers over the pool of unexciting receivers on the roster now, but the question then was do we really need to play eleven players every down and if so, should one of them be Robert Foster rather than Benjamin?

I forgot about Kelvin. That was painful 😣 

18 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

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Shavers ran a 4.59 at his pro day at San Diego State.  He's not fast, though I suppose it's not a terrible time for a bigger-bodied guy (6'4", 211 lbs). 

 

Keon's a bit quicker but neither of these guys runs like a deer...

 

                        Shavers               Keon

40 yards            4.59                   4.61

10 yards             1.63                   1.54

 

 

Thing is: Shavers has football speed and a brain, Keon does not.

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Great interview of Shavers. So easy to root for. Him and Josh have the same prove them wrong mentality. He also talks about his friendship with Keon. 
 

 

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5 hours ago, Andy1 said:

Great interview of Shavers. So easy to root for. Him and Josh have the same prove them wrong mentality. He also talks about his friendship with Keon. 
 

 

 

Seems like a solid, intelligent guy whose head is in the right place.  

 

Somewhere else, I posted that skill-wise, he was more or less a jag.  But I want to be wrong.  I root for him and hope he becomes a regular contributor to the Bills offense.  

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7 minutes ago, Pete said:

Shavers averaged 6 yards separation against TB- the most in the NFL that week!

And that might be the last time that teams ignore him. Will be interesting to see what he can do vs Houston tonight. 

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During the preseason you could see the love his teammates have for him, excitedly surrounding him after a TD etc ... They also mentioned how hard he worked in the off season.

 

If teams decide they'd better cover him, then that will take a defender off of somebody else. Shavers has earned another shot tonight after his game against the Bucs. By being late for team meetings, and from what I've heard it wasn't his first, and being mostly ineffective on the field, sitting Coleman again tonight might get his head back in the game... Might being the keyword.

 

GO BILLS

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This guy is like a Special teams #5 WR lol. What are we doing here? That was really nice catch and hopefully it turns into consistent performances but this is nuts. The guy is probably the 5th or 6th best WR on this team. I don’t really think it’s warranting HOF player comparisons. Unless the comparison is, they both play football. I hope I’m wrong and the guy turns into Eric Moulds. I’m just assuming if he was that type of player, a borderline zero like Colman wouldn’t have been playing 70% of the snaps.

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54 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

This guy is like a Special teams #5 WR lol. What are we doing here? That was really nice catch and hopefully it turns into consistent performances but this is nuts. The guy is probably the 5th or 6th best WR on this team. I don’t really think it’s warranting HOF player comparisons. Unless the comparison is, they both play football. I hope I’m wrong and the guy turns into Eric Moulds. I’m just assuming if he was that type of player, a borderline zero like Colman wouldn’t have been playing 70% of the snaps.

 

 

 

It's extremely common for top picks to prove they can't play.

 

It's the opposite with lower picks 

 

Shavers took the most snaps at the x wr position Sunday. He's Wr1/ Target#1 right now until Kincaid is back imo

 

It more or less happened with Kyle Williams 5th and mccargo 1st

 

Andre Reed 4th and Chris Burkett 2nd

 

JJ stokes 1st & Terrell Owens 3rd

 

Rod Smith was undrafted, Marcus Nash was a 1st Rd pick for Denver in the late 90s

 

Tom Brady 6th, Bledsoe 1st

 

Elam & Benford, Stevie Johnson etc 

 

 

It's extremely common 

 

If he was still viewed as wr 5, he wouldn't be listed as a starter on ourlads, featured by the bills organization this week by Chris Brown, or leading the team in snaps last week. 

 

In other words he beat out Coleman.

 

For an organization in 1 year to move on from their top pick for an undrafted guy says something. It says a lot about Coleman but it also says a ton about Shavers...

 

But it's obviously still soon and maybe it's just a flash or whatever. My eyes tell me he's a special talent and he reminded me of John Stallworth. 

 

Obviously I could end up looking silly lol

 

Imo if he was just a guy, he would be getting less snaps, and Gabe / Palmer would be the main guys.

 

The traits are definitely there. During the preseason and in camp I thought he was the best wr on the team but I didn't say anything. After Sunday I'm starting to think I'm right... But you're correct it's hyperbolic and premature right now and more just a fun comparison 

 

I'm very interested to see what happens tonight with more pressure and against some good corners.

 

If he lights it up tonight all bets are off imo. If he's 1 on 1 with Lassiter who runs 4.65, I think they're going to go deep more than once on him with Shavers. 

 

I also don't think it's a coincidence that basically all the wide receivers changed and then the passing game exploded...

 

Shavers leading in snaps, Palmer back, Gabe & some Hardman 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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