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  1. 1. Is Keon Trade Bait?

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Chaos said:

How high is your celing if you are are slow. 

I think the argument is that you can become an elite route runner and offset your lack of speed with skill, but I feel like you could apply that argument to anybody, fast or slow.

 

If you can become a Davante Adams-lite route runner, you have a high ceiling.

Posted
2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

And again for the 1000.time we didn't need a slot WR when we drafted Coleman but I know, you think all DTs are NTs? 

And for the 1000 time mcconkey is the better receiver whether he is lined up as wr 1, wr 2, or slot.  At the end of the day can you play or not. Bills absolutely did not need a player of his skill set. The blue print was already there when they lost with 13 sec. And the blue print was on full display this weekend against the bucs.  Spare me the dt are nt nonsense.  

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On 11/16/2025 at 2:01 PM, L Ron Burgundy said:

For what?   Lol, a 12th round pick?

Exactly! Just keep him on his rookie deal and hopefully he matures and becomes Tee Higgins lite. 
 

It is horrible how the only WR Beane drafted in the first 2 days of the draft (rounds 1-3) in his 8 years as GM looks to be a bust. Maybe take a few more shots there bud. 

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3 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Exactly! Just keep him on his rookie deal and hopefully he matures and becomes Tee Higgins lite. 
 

It is horrible how the only WR Beane drafted in the first 2 days of the draft (rounds 1-3) in his 8 years as GM looks to be a bust. Maybe take a few more shots there bud. 

Hard to get top notch WRs if you don't draft any.  

 

Compare to GB since 2021.

Buffalo - top 3 round WR picks - 1 - 2nd rd pick Coleman (2024); next pick Shakir in the 5th (2022)

Green Bay - top 3 round WR picks - 5 

2025 - Golden 1st rd and Sav Williams 3rd rd

2023 - Reed 2nd rd (plus Wicks in the 5th rd)

2022 - Watson 2nd rd (plus Doubs in the 4th)

2021 - Rodgers 3rd rd 

 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Hard to get top notch WRs if you don't draft any.  

 

Compare to GB since 2021.

Buffalo - top 3 round WR picks - 1 - 2nd rd pick Coleman (2024); next pick Shakir in the 5th (2022)

Green Bay - top 3 round WR picks - 5 

2025 - Golden 1st rd and Sav Williams 3rd rd

2023 - Reed 2nd rd (plus Wicks in the 5th rd)

2022 - Watson 2nd rd (plus Doubs in the 4th)

2021 - Rodgers 3rd rd 

 

Exactly and Jordan Love is trash. Imagine what he would like with our WR corps. Of better yet Josh with his weapons. And can’t forget Kraft pre injury 

Posted
8 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 

As a fan that loves this team , I'm guilty as everyone else in that I've always tried to look at players with a a glass half full type of optimism or in the most positive light. It's normal to do that. 

 

But if you really step back and watch keon  play, I feel like it's being forced. Like forced to a ridiculous level. It literally looks awkward 

 

I mean sometimes a player just sucks.... 

 

You can try to rationalize any reason you want. Maybe it's Allen missing him on a certain play, maybe it's the style of the offense, maybe it's just a bad day and it's inconsistent. Maybe it's any number of issues....

 

What we know is that it's not working. When he wasn't playing ,not only did it work, it looked awesome!!! And it looked awesome even with Allen being inconsistent & really having like his B- level game...

 

I swear I kept saying years ago how Mike Williams and JP Losman were extremely talented, and it was always another excuse I would try to come up with. Looking back it, they just sucked bro. It wasn't anymore complicated than that.

 

Yes every once in a blue moon you have a player that might start out very slow and then start to emerge, but usually more than not a player is pretty good right away. 

 

Everything with Keon is forcing someone to be something that just isn't there.

 

No amount of squinting and pretending will turn Coleman into Eric Moulds. He's just not that guy

 

 

 

 

 

 

We define suck differently then. To me suck is Aaron Maybin not Chris Kelsey. Has Coleman become the WR we needed, no but at least he contributes on occasion. That's what upsets me with some of the fan base. Is Coleman Eric Moulds not likely but what if he become Donte Stallworth? Who was a cog to some of those Super Bowl teams in New England.  Just because a player doesn't meet certain expectations means they can't play in this league. I'd imagine most here would call Kyle Pitts a bust but you know what he might not be Tony Gonzalez but he's certainly not Tony Hunter. 

Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

But not only that everyone can see the obvious talent. It's not like this big mystery on why he's not producing.... because he is producing and he is talented lol

 

None of this is happening with Coleman

 

 

If McConkey is so great tell me why the terrible stat line Sunday? Or his games against the Washington or Giants or Denver or Las Vegas? Looks like many of the stat lines we see Coleman produce. But I get it Coleman is trash cuz he getting half the targets McConkey usually gets with half the production.

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Posted

I don't see us getting much back for him, and unless we really feel he truly has no value to our team I would prefer we keep him at his current cost which is minimal. He popped vs Baltimore and that was a game we needed him to do that 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

We define suck differently then. To me suck is Aaron Maybin not Chris Kelsey. Has Coleman become the WR we needed, no but at least he contributes on occasion. That's what upsets me with some of the fan base. Is Coleman Eric Moulds not likely but what if he become Donte Stallworth? Who was a cog to some of those Super Bowl teams in New England.  Just because a player doesn't meet certain expectations means they can't play in this league. I'd imagine most here would call Kyle Pitts a bust but you know what he might not be Tony Gonzalez but he's certainly not Tony Hunter. 

 

Do you think if Coleman was anything of substance as a wr he would be inactive on a team desperate for wr talent?

 

I understand suck is a strong word but everyone drafted relatively early can obviously make a play.

 

"Suck" here means that the player in question was drafted to be a starter, or solid contributor, and is overall a net negative.

 

I am at the point now where I think we can say Coleman getting snaps throughout a game is a net negative. I think if kj hamler was playing, he would be better.

 

Trust me I hate saying this but like I said before in a previous thread everything with Keon Coleman seems extremely forced and awkward. 

 

This is just my speculation and I have zero sources, but I think things are way worse than we realize and it's not just because Keon Coleman was late for a few team meetings. I think that's what the bills organization is telling us. 

 

I don't think he's a bad person or anything, I just think he's extremely overwhelmed and the bills said just make him inactive. 

 

he's going to be traded for whatever late pick in the off-season too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

If McConkey is so great tell me why the terrible stat line Sunday? Or his games against the Washington or Giants or Denver or Las Vegas? Looks like many of the stat lines we see Coleman produce. But I get it Coleman is trash cuz he getting half the targets McConkey usually gets with half the production.

I don’t mean to jump back in but they aren’t the same. McConkey is going to have another 1,000 yard season, 80+ catches and at least 6 or 7 TDs. This is on the heels of a rookie season where he had 82/1149/7. That isn’t the same as Keon. No matter how many ways, we cut up and manipulate Keon’s numbers to fit our agenda. It’s not only not the same, it’s not similar. If Keon had either of those years we’d give him a key to the city.

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Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:


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Had Coleman not gotten hurt he likely clears 700 yards as a rookie.......which would have been tremendous rookie production from one of the youngest, least polished WR in that draft.

 

Beane f#cked up royally expecting him to be WR1.  He was/is a project with a very high ceiling.   

His first few games of his rookie season have (and still do) give me hopes that he can overcome his supposed slowness through effort, practice and study. We have seen

- good first few games

- lack of production post-injury

- him practicing hard in the off-season 

- good first game of this season

- lack of effort, discipline resulting in poor performance 

 

This up and down behavior is something I cannot understand. Is it just immaturity ? If yes , I hope the bulb will go on and he will realize what he is at risk of throwing away - a unique opportunity (in the NFL) which once gone will cause him to look for alternate careers with decidedly less pay and fame. 

 

I would like the Bills to hold on to him and see what happens in the off-season. If he comes unfocused and disinterested for TC, then by all means get rid of him. 

Edited by Fan in Chicago
Posted

No, he will be fine. When I was his age I was racing cars down Sheridan Dr at 90 mph ,driving home drunk almost every weekend. 

And if anyone denies any of the stupid thing we did at 22 years old is lying. 

Ok, he needs to grow up and when he does, than trade him.

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Posted
Just now, HOUSE said:

No, he will be fine. When I was his age I was racing cars down Sheridan Dr at 90 mph ,driving home drunk almost every weekend. 

And if anyone denies any of the stupid thing we did at 22 years old is lying. 

Ok, he needs to grow up and when he does, than trade him.

 

I think the bills organization is telling us that he is inactive because of immaturity. 

 

 

I think the actual reason is that he is overwhelmed/not good and can't contribute right now... 

 

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t mean to jump back in but they aren’t the same. McConkey is going to have another 1,000 yard season, 80+ catches and at least 6 or 7 TDs. This is on the heels of a rookie season where he had 82/1149/7. That isn’t the same as Keon. No matter how many ways, we cut up and manipulate Keon’s numbers to fit our agenda. It’s not only not the same, it’s not similar. If Keon had either of those years we’d give him a key to the city.

The obvious counterpoint is that the Chargers fans aren’t talking about trading Ladd lol.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

I think the bills organization is telling us that he is inactive because of immaturity. 

 

 

I think the actual reason is that he is overwhelmed/not good and can't contribute right now... 

 

 

Dumping him now is like trashing your house than listing it on the market without cleaning up the garbage first.

 

Posted
14 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

My goodness, I’m stunned that there are still Keon truthers out there. Some people get on the lifeboats and some keep playing the violin as the Titanic takes on water.
 

34 catches on 83 targets is the worst that I’ve ever heard of. He is catching 41% of the balls thrown his way over the equivalent of a season!! I don’t know where you’d find that data but that has to be one of the worst percentages of all-time!! Keon has been targeted, a lot, by the league’s MVP. He has failed miserably based on pretty much all metrics.

 

Why the need to defend him so hard? If we want to look at how much he flourished pre-injury and ignore the last full season, okay. If we decide to ignore the last 17 games he was on pace for 42 catches on 68 targets for 788 yards and 6 TDs. Taking only the best of Keon, you get the 102nd most catches despite being the top option with the league’s best QB.
 

Keon sucks. None of us wanted that to be the case. A lot of us expected it to be the case but it’s been worse than even the most negative on him could have imagined. He entered camp as the number 1 WR. He is a healthy scratch by Thanksgiving so that Gabe Davis and Mecole Hardman could get jerseys. The Bills proceeded to have their best game through the air this season. The best thing for the Bills would be for him to remain in street clothes until his Bills career ends in 4 months.

Agreed.  All day long.  He's a nice guy, but a bozo who just doesn't get it.  He'll be on a PS somewhere else next fall.  From a human perspective, they can't possibly keep giving this guy a jersey for the balance of this year when Shavers outworks and outplays him.  Shavers (with input from Gabe) took his spot, bluntly, and we can backfill Shavers with a JAG with a good attitude who works hard, plays STs, and puts in appropriate effort on "love of the game" routes and blocking assignments. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The obvious counterpoint is that the Chargers fans aren’t talking about trading Ladd lol.

And fan talking points are the pinnacle of intelligent discourse!

Posted (edited)

Judging by his actions he may be trying to accelerate a move, he’s definitely not working out here, I’d definitely dump him for another piece we need.

 

I would be surprised if he’s on the roster next season.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

And fan talking points are the pinnacle of intelligent discourse!

Maybe not the pinnacle and certainly not infallible.

 

I have long held the adage that if the fans are debating if you are good or if you suck after long enough, you probably suck.

 

Nobody debates if Josh or Shakir or Cook sucks. Or guys like Rousseau or Oliver. We may debate if they are worth their contract or how “good” they are, but not if they are actually good or suck.

 

But guys like Elam, Ford, EJ, Tyrod, etc etc and now Keon, we are debating if they are good or if they suck. And I’ve seen this play out too many times to completely discount that, despite it not being infallible.

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