Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

This is pointless to discuss this season because:

 

- Neither will be fired this offseason barring something crazy happening

- Any candidate you like this year will likely be coaching elsewhere or remain in their role for now, meaning they would likely not be options even a year from now.

 

i understand the sentiment, but this is not going to be the year we blow up the coaching staff or GM/scouts.

 

I dont disagree and think McBeane will be here at least through the opening of the new stadium.

 

That said... these types of posts kinda annoy me. EVERYTHING we do and discuss here is pointless. The discussion on the board carries zero weight in real life and will never result in anything happening on anything. The point is to have a place of discussion so folks can exchange ideas and opinions.

 

The fact that Kirby just turned me on to the idea of Lane Kiffin accomplished about as much as can be expected here, and I appreciate it for what it is.

[TBBills Fan]

15 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Did Bill and Cowherd have a kid?

A super kid, genius play caller

[SoonerBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

HC- Jim Bob Cooter OC Indianapolis 

GM- Alec Halaby AGM Philadelphia

Yes and yes.

 

So let it be written... so let it be done.

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Yes and yes.

 

So let it be written... so let it be done.

I'm not the person who thinks everything in the Eagles organizational turn to gold lol

 

We get a new general manager we need a scout at the head.. not another Beane analytics type 

 

I want a guy with 15 years professional scouting

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716

[mannc]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I'm not the person who thinks everything in the Eagles organizational turn to gold lol

 

We get a new general manager we need a scout at the head.. not another Beane analytics type 

 

I want a guy with 15 years professional scouting

Like Buddy?

[Buffalo716]

Just now, mannc said:

Like Buddy?

Buddy was 70 years old lol

 

Give me a 45-year-old GM who's been scouting for 15 years on the road...

 

You hire a scout not an analytical guy

[ScotSHO]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I dont disagree and think McBeane will be here at least through the opening of the new stadium.

 

That said... these types of posts kinda annoy me. EVERYTHING we do and discuss here is pointless. The discussion on the board carries zero weight in real life and will never result in anything happening on anything. The point is to have a place of discussion so folks can exchange ideas and opinions.

 

The fact that Kirby just turned me on to the idea of Lane Kiffin accomplished about as much as can be expected here, and I appreciate it for what it is.

So you're all torqued up for Lane Kiffin (which I do like, but he'll remain a college coach), but you also admit that change will not happen until Josh is at least 32 years old.  Why put yourself thru all that wasted energy? 

 

This team is just a billionaire's fun time hobby.  

[Búfalo Blanco]

Who do I WANT?

 

-Howie Roseman, Andy Reid and Steve Spagnuolo... and I'd trust Reid to hire his OC. Get the top minds anywhere to go with Allen, Pegula! Oh, that's impossible? Then...

 

Who do the Bills NEED?

 

-See above. If we can't get them, then Shanahan or McVay would be good starts at HC. I know they are all under contract, so I'd then think about what veterans are available. However, I'd more likely take a swing at the top young offensive minds... someone who can mentor Josh Allen and give him a scheme that suits his strengths. Add a Jim Schwartz or another DC that can handle that side of the ball without question. I'd rather the team hire a GM that is an accomplished scouting mind (like Joe Schoen) and hire a separate experienced team to manage contracts and salary cap. While you still have Allen, money should be no object however you decide to do it.

 

 

[Simon]

22 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

For Rex, Terry was a brand new owner and relied on Russ and Doug, and while Whaley needed to be convinced he ultimately came around on Rex.

 

 

This is true

 

22 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

After that, Terry used an outside consulting firm and they are the ones who helped him identify McDermott. Whaley was barely involved as he was on the hot seat and on his way out as well.

 

 

This is not true. 

When I say that Whaley wanted McDermott and pounded the table for him, it is not idle speculation or reading tea leaves.

I was given first hand information that was who Doug was fighting for, prior to the hire.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Buddy was 70 years old lol

 

Give me a 45-year-old GM who's been scouting for 15 years on the road...

 

You hire a scout not an analytical guy

Ok then Who?

[jaybeezee]

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I dont disagree and think McBeane will be here at least through the opening of the new stadium.

 

That said... these types of posts kinda annoy me. EVERYTHING we do and discuss here is pointless. The discussion on the board carries zero weight in real life and will never result in anything happening on anything. The point is to have a place of discussion so folks can exchange ideas and opinions.

 

The fact that Kirby just turned me on to the idea of Lane Kiffin accomplished about as much as can be expected here, and I appreciate it for what it is.

Well imo we will be wasting another one of Josh's prime years running it back with these two.

 

We've seen everything there is to see. I have zero confidence that they will pick a great wr in the draft, and we know they damm well can't afford a top flight FA WR, so we will get another Keon Coleman prototype for WR and then the will draft defense with the next 3 picks, circling back to offense in the 5th round. 

 

I dontvwant to play this game into Josh's 30s. If we do, we may be having conversations about who we can draft to replace Josh

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Ive said this many times about the McDermott and Beane discussion.   I am fine with moving on from them but be very aware that an OC, DC, former head coach or a name no one talks about is just as likely to be the same or worse than what we already have.

 

Making a move at head coach will satisfy the restless natives for a bit.   Until it doesnt.  

What NFL HC job has opened up, at any point recently or not, has been a better place to step into and win immediately?

 

Im drawing a blank, I'm sure there has been, but this has g2 be at the top. Let the names roll in and see what you have.

 

Spend some $$ and gather some top consultants. I dunno, youre a billionaire, how would he hire a different job at a company he owns, that he couldn't possibly know anything about doing, on a personal level? Do that lol

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

We've seen everything there is to see

This is the most rational thought on the situation I have seen. Having said that, someone has to win the Super Bowl this year, and every contender has pretty big flaws. Bills probably still have a 1 in 10 chance. 

[DrDawkinstein]

6 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

So you're all torqued up for Lane Kiffin (which I do like, but he'll remain a college coach), but you also admit that change will not happen until Josh is at least 32 years old.  Why put yourself thru all that wasted energy? 

 

This team is just a billionaire's fun time hobby.  

 

Shut down the board then. Whats the point to any of this?

 

Dont bother watching the games either, following your logic.

 

We're fans, it's a hobby. And it's a discussion board. How about contributing a real opinion other than "none of this matters, man"? 

[ScotSHO]

2 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

Well imo we will be wasting another one of Josh's prime years running it back with these two.

 

We've seen everything there is to see. I have zero confidence that they will pick a great wr in the draft, and we know they damm well can't afford a top flight FA WR, so we will get another Keon Coleman prototype for WR and then the will draft defense with the next 3 picks, circling back to offense in the 5th round. 

 

I dontvwant to play this game into Josh's 30s. If we do, we may be having conversations about who we can draft to replace Josh

Get ready, because the future you've described will most likely be the reality.  Only 1/32 get to be the top dawg every year.

[DrDawkinstein]

7 minutes ago, Simon said:

This is not true. 

When I say that Whaley wanted McDermott and pounded the table for him, it is not idle speculation or reading tea leaves.

I was given first hand information that was who Doug was fighting for, prior to the hire.

 

Ok, but Terry was given his name from the consulting firm. If he was Whaley's favorite out of what they provided, great. Didnt mean much because Terry was ready to move on anyways.

[Chaos]

Just now, ScotSHO said:

Get ready, because the future you've described will most likely be the reality.  Only 1/32 get to be the top dawg every year.

McDermott is on his 9th 1/32 chance.  8 of those with one of the two top QBs in the NFL.  Its just not a good performance. 

[DrDawkinstein]

 

 

5 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

Well imo we will be wasting another one of Josh's prime years running it back with these two.

 

We've seen everything there is to see. I have zero confidence that they will pick a great wr in the draft, and we know they damm well can't afford a top flight FA WR, so we will get another Keon Coleman prototype for WR and then the will draft defense with the next 3 picks, circling back to offense in the 5th round. 

 

I dontvwant to play this game into Josh's 30s. If we do, we may be having conversations about who we can draft to replace Josh

 

Agreed 100% and Ive never said otherwise

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Ok then Who?

 

Considering we still have a GM and we might have the same one in September it's hard to know who's going to be available when or if our job opens up 

 

I do know that I would prefer somebody who has considerable scouting experience if it does open... More than just front office experience 

[Bangarang]

Klint Kubiak is going to be the hot name this hiring cycle. 

 

Kliff Kingsbury is a possibility I suppose. 

 

Nobody else really excites me. I've seen Jim Bob Cooter's name mentioned but that's not his offense in Indy. 

 

I would prefer someone who is offensive minded paired with an experienced DC. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Bangarang