$55m to run 13

[<bills4life>]

13 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

It’s as dumb as it sounds.  Let’s take a once in many lifetimes QB, pay him $55m, stick him under center, run a ton of 13, take him totally out of rhythm, and intentionally try to limit the number of possessions we give him.  We’re playing a style teams on a rookie QB contract or mid level starter should use, meaning that the balance of our roster will be of lesser quality.  It’s so friggin dumb it boggles the mind.  That’s it.  Discuss.  

Post of the year right here!!  A great coach will mold the system to maximize a players talents and abilities.  McDermott is clueless and has zero understanding of what he has in Josh Allen. Instead we have to listen to complimentary football bs. The idea is to score and score often. If your defense loses a game 52-48, then that’s on you. Apparently you’re not as good of a defensive genius as you think you are.  13 seconds was a prime example of that. He should have been fired the very next day. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

Post of the year right here!!  A great coach will mold the system to maximize a players talents and abilities.  McDermott is clueless and has zero understanding of what he has in Josh Allen. Instead we have to listen to complimentary football bs. The idea is to score and score often. If your defense loses a game 52-48, then that’s on you. Apparently you’re not as good of a defensive genius as you think you are.  13 seconds was a prime example of that. He should have been fired the very next day. 

Geez...you're not very complimentary, are you?! 🤨

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[Sweats]

19 minutes ago, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

Post of the year right here!!  A great coach will mold the system to maximize a players talents and abilities.  McDermott is clueless and has zero understanding of what he has in Josh Allen. Instead we have to listen to complimentary football bs. The idea is to score and score often. If your defense loses a game 52-48, then that’s on you. Apparently you’re not as good of a defensive genius as you think you are.  13 seconds was a prime example of that. He should have been fired the very next day. 

 

 

 

 

The very next day?!?.........the team should never have allowed him on the team bus after that game and in fact, they should have made him take an Uber home.

[<bills4life>]

16 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Geez...you're not very complimentary, are you?! 🤨

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When it comes to McDermott, you would be correct. 😂 

[BananaB]

2 hours ago, Rousseauisnoschmo said:

I like the way you spun this. Yea I'm wrong but it proves I'm right. Well played.

I was right on 3 out of 4 guys. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Wayne Cubed]

I don't really think it's the personal grouping that's the issue, the Rams are very successful out of 13 and run it more often than the Bills.

 

[stlbills13]

13 personnel is a growing thing in the NFL. It's just that most teams have a WR who can take the top off the defense to go along with it. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

43 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

I don't really think it's the personal grouping that's the issue, the Rams are very successful out of 13 and run it more often than the Bills.

 

Yes, the difference is Nucua and Adams can win!

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[Wayne Cubed]

4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Yes, what's the difference Nucua and Adams can win!

Exactly. They have the WRs that can win their routes, it's not the personel groupings.

[DuckyBoys]

Rams can throw out of it  Seems we cant unless its Kincaid and he's a sports car Always on the lift at the shop  Plus I don't  think McVay tells McVay to run some ball control to give his defense a rest 

[wppete]

They are purposely destroying his career and this team. Its on the Coaches and GM. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

3 hours ago, Rousseauisnoschmo said:

Was he a turnover machine because of Daboll or because he was young dumb and full of ---?(If you've seen the original point break you can fill in the blank). I'd like to see current Josh in that offense.

Josh > Johnny Utah 

[Goin Breakdown]

Brady and McD both want to play the same way. Prevent

McD- bend until you break

Brady- Break Josh. 

[Tulsabillsfanz]

I agree 13 personnel is becoming more popular.  I also believe defensive minded head coaches, like McDermott will always embrace anything that protects their defense.  This is especially true when you have a bad defense. 

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

I have mulled this over for a while and I think Allen has received such conflicting advice ovr his career that he feels a bit yo-yo’d.

 

He has had 3 different OC’s in the past 4 years, and each are very different from one another. 

 

This current iteration Joe Brady offense is one that can beat up bad/stupid defenses by dinking and dunking and throwing WR screens a million times, but as soon as a team collapses the field and plays the sticks, like the Dolphins did, the offense falls apart.

 

Look at all the Dolphin defenders at the sticks just daring us to go deeper.

 

 

Daboll had his warts too but he stressed the defense to cover all areas of the field and was very good at scheming guys open in that intermediate zone.

 

Ive said it for over a year now - I don’t like the way Brady runs his offense. I don’t care that we score a bazillion points against bad teams.

 

Part of the inconsistency we see is baked in to type of offense we run. We have so many plays that are boom or bust. No second option. The WR screens are one of them - they’re dead on arrival half the time, if not more.

This is why I keep coming back to scheme and passing design more than personnel. You can have different receivers running those same routes, but if the play calls are just as predictable it won’t matter. WRs in Brady’s offense aren’t the best versions of themselves and we have years of data that proves it. 

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[mannc]

3 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

I just don't buy that the current receivers corps is the worst in the league as Shakir looks like the best slot WR or one of the best. Dalton Kincaid is one of the best TEs and Knox is not that far behind. Some of the Bills current receivers have the speed to get open and are simply not being utilized properly. We all saw that Josh Palmer can get open and get separation. Keon Coleman is not as bad as so many say and Moore is not that bad either as he simply isn't being thrown to enough.

 

In my view this all rests on the shoulders of OC Joe Brady as his game plan against Miami was bleak. Miami stopped the run and Brady had no answer.

Yeah, the weapons aren’t great, but this Brady offense is a catastrophe.  Samuel, Moore and Coleman are all early second round picks and all relatively young.  It’s not like there’s nothing to work with there.

 

The Bills still have a top 5 injury-free offensive line, 29-year old Josh Allen, and a top 3 RB…many NFL offenses have thrived with much worse personnel…

[Nihilarian]

42 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

I don't really think it's the personal grouping that's the issue, the Rams are very successful out of 13 and run it more often than the Bills.

 

Agree, and it's the very same scheme they used last season to beat the Lions at Detroit 48-42 and lost to the Rams 42-44. Actually I've read that this years receivers corps are better than last seasons. 

 

4 minutes ago, Brand J said:

This is why I keep coming back to scheme and passing design more than personnel. You can have different receivers running those same routes, but if the play calls are just as predictable it won’t matter. 

Exactly! I do believe that I've read that opposing players know the scheme and what play are coming better then the Bills players. This OC needs to get his head out of his arse. Joe Brady needs to do a better job! 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

14 hours ago, vincec said:

Complimentary football.

That's not even complimentary football, 60:40 split pass to run would still be complimentary depending on how effective it was. To run 50.5% of the time when you have Josh Allen is mind boggling. Most of the NFL is in the low to mid 40%.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, Nihilarian said:

This OC needs to get his head out of his arse. Joe Brady needs to do a better job! 

"It's always sunny in Baton Rouge."

[WNYFAN1]

15 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

It’s as dumb as it sounds.  Let’s take a once in many lifetimes QB, pay him $55m, stick him under center, run a ton of 13, take him totally out of rhythm, and intentionally try to limit the number of possessions we give him.  We’re playing a style teams on a rookie QB contract or mid level starter should use, meaning that the balance of our roster will be of lesser quality.  It’s so friggin dumb it boggles the mind.  That’s it.  Discuss.  

They don't trust him. It's the only answer that makes any sense.