11/9/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins Post Game Thread

[Dillenger4]

3 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

I haven't been this down on the Bills for years. In a third of their games this season they have looked completely unprepared and listless. There is no leadership, and the captains (Allen and Bernard) are nowhere to be found when the team needs to get their collective heads out of their asses and play ball. Allen sulks on the bench by himself and Bernard can't call anyone out because he is playing like garbage. 
 

Teams have figured out the Bills offense and have zero fear of the passing game. Media is laughing about how predictable and simple the offensive game plans are. Brady was handed the job because he was familiar, not because he had any sort of track record running an offense. And he is proving how limited he is. The Bills don't have great WRs, but they have guys that have played at a decent level in other situations. Other teams figure out ways to get average WRs open. Hell, KC was famous for their crossing routes and barely legal pick plays. Was Brady sleeping through all those games?  All he seems to know how to do is screen plays to Shakir. Allen had 3.5 seconds to throw on average yesterday. The most of his career. The Dolphins didn't even need to pressure Allen to shut down the passing game.

 

Allen holds nobody accountable on the field or off and offers up a "they wanted it more" after another ***** game. How the hell can a 2-7 team with no shot at the playoffs "want it more" than a team fighting for their division and a playoff spot?!  I know that response is the generic answer after a loss, but how do you offer that up as an excuse?  
 

Yesterday's game virtually guarantees that the patriots win the AFC East. They have a very easy remaining schedule and the Bills will have to finish a full game ahead of them due to conference tie breakers. The Bills most likely lost their division yesterday because a 2-7 Dolphins team "wanted it more"! Let that sink in for a minute. It is a crappy day to be a Bills fan. 

I agree 100%!

I got roasted last year for saying Josh is soft. He is a great QB - but he has a sulky attitude.

[Gregg]

2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I have been saying this for years. McDermott is the ultimate boss, not Beane. McDermott has two primary concerns. One is defensive tackles, the other is cornerbacks. He has little interest in providing Josh with top notch wideouts. I know, people will point at Keon Coleman but they traded down twice before they drafted him, skipping over a far better wr in the process.

 

 Do look at the 2025 draft. Look at his earliest picks. I don't know how anyone can think that these picks came from Beane. McDermott holds far too much sway in this oeganization. He has since he came to town and gave the Mahomes pick to KC, after which he promptly drafted a (now useless) cornerback.

 

I really do hope that McDermott is not our coach in 2026, but it is like he cast a spell on Mr. Pegula.

 

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/teams/bills

 

 

Beane wouldn't stay here if he were a McDermott puppet. If he were fired, then he would be unemployed for about 5 minutes before getting another GM job. Does McDermott have a say in how the roster should be built. Of course, he does but Beane has power here as well. Both men are responsible for this roster. If things continue to go south, then both should be held accountable.

[RichRiderBills]

I agree that the bad looks really bad this year. Plus losing to bad teams. 

 

Unlike years past, when it was a solid or up and coming team that would take us to the brink and we'd blow a game via some oddity hail murray or Vikings fumble etc..

 

There are just hard flaws noticeable, mistakes, and awful bone headed plays. Coupled with clear issues at talent. Injury or not.  It all seems more obvious and stares us right in the face.....reminding us we wont win again in Jan this year. 

Edited 3 hours ago by RichRiderBills

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

Just now, Dillenger4 said:

I agree 100%!

I got roasted last year for saying Josh is soft. He is a great QB - but he has a sulky attitude.

He was panting like a dog all game, rolling his eyes on the bench and putting his head down like a little kid that got caught doing something bad.  He was the least inspiring "captain" possible.  McDermott should strip the C from Allen and Bernard and give them to Dawkins, Spencer, and Bosa.  Grow some balls and hold people accountable.

[RichRiderBills]

I just want to add - I wonder what the effect of Beane ranting about not getting the trade done and the extent of his explanation had on the psyche of the team in this game?

 

I thought Beane explained/ divested too much and it was not a great look, even if it was true/ transparent. 

[thenorthremembers]

36 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Allen looks done emotionally. 

 

There was an interview a few weeks back where he said getting married has made him realize there is more to life than football.   That not winning a Super Bowl wouldnt be the be all end all.   I am paraphrasing, but that was the jist of the answer.   

 

This is not all on Josh.   His play this year is likely due to what he's been asked to work with.   That said, I cant imagine Tom Brady ever saying not winning a Championship would be ok. 

 

I've been of the mind for a long time that Josh doesn't seem like the type of guy that will play into his late 30's or early 40's.    Given his family's farming background, he would have been wealthy without football.  He's made 206 million from football, that's not counting endorsements.  His wife is worth tens of millions as well.   Sooner or later, he's going to call it a day, go back to California with his movie star wife, farm and play golf.   I don't Forsee him being a Buffalo guy after football.     The Bills need to make moves immediately to get his fire back, they likely only have 5-6 more seasons with him.

Edited 3 hours ago by thenorthremembers

[RichRiderBills]

2 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

He was panting like a dog all game, rolling his eyes on the bench and putting his head down like a little kid that got caught doing something bad.  He was the least inspiring "captain" possible.  McDermott should strip the C from Allen and Bernard and give them to Dawkins, Spencer, and Bosa.  Grow some balls and hold people accountable.

 

One of my feelings about Josh is he is not risking throws to keep his INT total down and this offense is too obsessed with eliminating turnovers that it doesn't take the throw risks to win. 

 

I guess we cant have our cake and eat it too.

 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

There was an interview a few weeks back where he said getting married has made him realize there is more to life than football.   That not winning a Super Bowl wouldnt be the be all end all.   I am paraphrasing, but that was the jist of the answer.   

 

This is not all on Josh.   His play this year is likely due to what he's been asked to work with.   That said, I cant imagine Tom Brady ever saying not winning a Championship would be ok. 

 

I've been of the mind for a long time that Josh doesn't seem like the type of guy that will play into his late 30's or early 40's.    Given his family's farming background, he would have been wealthy without football.  He's made 206 million from football, that's not counting endorsements.  His wife is worth tens of millions as well.   Sooner or later, he's going to call it a day, go back to California with his movie star wife, farm and play golf.   I don't Forsee him being a Buffalo guy after football.     The Bills need to make moves immediately to get his fire back, they likely only have 5-6 more seasons with him.

I said it in another post and got fried for it. I see maybe one more year with Josh, he will open the new stadium he helped build then call it a career. You are spot on, that he isn't going to live in Buffalo when its over and he was never going to play into his mid 30's.  Fans have this fantasy about that and reality is much harsher

[thenorthremembers]

10 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

He was panting like a dog all game, rolling his eyes on the bench and putting his head down like a little kid that got caught doing something bad.  He was the least inspiring "captain" possible.  McDermott should strip the C from Allen and Bernard and give them to Dawkins, Spencer, and Bosa.  Grow some balls and hold people accountable.

 

I dont support taking the C off of him, but I would like him to be a little more vocal.     I am glad he inspires people with his play on the field but this team is sorely missing a Kyle Williams type who can rally the troops a bit.   "Love Ya'll Boys- Win on 3- 1-2-3 Win"   isnt really cutting it anymore.

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

21 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

I haven't been this down on the Bills for years. In a third of their games this season they have looked completely unprepared and listless. There is no leadership, and the captains (Allen and Bernard) are nowhere to be found when the team needs to get their collective heads out of their asses and play ball. Allen sulks on the bench by himself and Bernard can't call anyone out because he is playing like garbage. 
 

Teams have figured out the Bills offense and have zero fear of the passing game. Media is laughing about how predictable and simple the offensive game plans are. Brady was handed the job because he was familiar, not because he had any sort of track record running an offense. And he is proving how limited he is. The Bills don't have great WRs, but they have guys that have played at a decent level in other situations. Other teams figure out ways to get average WRs open. Hell, KC was famous for their crossing routes and barely legal pick plays. Was Brady sleeping through all those games?  All he seems to know how to do is screen plays to Shakir. Allen had 3.5 seconds to throw on average yesterday. The most of his career. The Dolphins didn't even need to pressure Allen to shut down the passing game.

 

Allen holds nobody accountable on the field or off and offers up a "they wanted it more" after another ***** game. How the hell can a 2-7 team with no shot at the playoffs "want it more" than a team fighting for their division and a playoff spot?!  I know that response is the generic answer after a loss, but how do you offer that up as an excuse?  
 

Yesterday's game virtually guarantees that the patriots win the AFC East. They have a very easy remaining schedule and the Bills will have to finish a full game ahead of them due to conference tie breakers. The Bills most likely lost their division yesterday because a 2-7 Dolphins team "wanted it more"! Let that sink in for a minute. It is a crappy day to be a Bills fan. 

Agreed, we aren't winning the east AND NE is getting better while we aren't.

[WNYFAN1]

1 hour ago, finn said:

The crowning irony is not that for all his extraordinary skills, Allen isn't particularly good at what McDermott wants, a pocket quarterback who is reliable, accurate, and doesn't take off running (because injuries). So, unbelievably, McDermott is probably frustrated he's been dealt a unicorn who can lift the world on his shoulders. He doesn't want that, and he's been trying for years to change him into an ordinary quarterback so he can win with field goals and a stout defense. As others have said, it's an appalling, disgusting waste of talent, the equivalent of confining Secretariat to a kiddy ride at the State Fair. 

 

Ultimately, what might suck the most is that McDermott and Beane are going nowhere, since Allen is good enough to carry this team to the playoffs every year even deprived of professional receivers. This farce is going to play out until Allen is 33 or 34, when he finally will be traded to a team he promptly takes to a Super Bowl or two. 

 

Frankly, I don't think there's any hope, since it would take an epiphany from Pegula, Beane, and/or McDermott, none of whom have shown evinced any evidence--beyond talk--that they understand what they have in Allen. The only outside chance is that McDermott fires Brady and hires someone he thinks will be a yes-man but who is actually a rebel who gets instant results and so can't be fired.

 

McDermott will have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to the Super Bowl. There, as in the 13-second game, Allen WILL deliver, and McDermott WILL play not to lose--and lose. 

Tell me I'm wrong. I very much want to be. 

Ha, if they wait too much longer Allen will be on the wrong side of 30 and won't be running as much. McDermott may yet get his wish.

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I said it in another post and got fried for it. I see maybe one more year with Josh, he will open the new stadium he helped build then call it a career. You are spot on, that he isn't going to live in Buffalo when its over and he was never going to play into his mid 30's.  Fans have this fantasy about that and reality is much harsher

 

You cant say anything about Josh on this board.   He is Teflon and beyond reproach.   He has earned that to a degree with how great he is been on the field.    He is tough as nails, he plays through injuries, which I also appreciate a great deal.     But the guys who play until late in their 30's or early 40's are almost manic and obsessive with a need to win or be the greatest to ever do it.   I dont see that with him. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

You cant say anything about Josh on this board.   He is Teflon and beyond reproach.   He has earned that to a degree with how great he is been on the field.    He is tough as nails, he plays through injuries, which I also appreciate a great deal.     But the guys who play until late in their 30's or early 40's are almost manic and obsessive with a need to win or be the greatest to ever do it.   I dont see that with him. 

Agreed, he has achieve saint hood and you will be burned at the stake for Blasphemy if you tell the truth in regards to Josh

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Some of you guys would cut off your leg to solve the problem of a heart attack. The Bills problems have nothing to do with JA17 achieving sainthood.  He makes mistakes just like anyone else.

LOL don't bother to respond

Edited 2 hours ago by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[Coach Tuesday]

48 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I just want to add - I wonder what the effect of Beane ranting about not getting the trade done and the extent of his explanation had on the psyche of the team in this game?

 

I thought Beane explained/ divested too much and it was not a great look, even if it was true/ transparent. 

 

It was yet another boneheaded media appearance by Beane.  Just say "I believe in the roster we have."  Don't say you tried but failed to get them help and oh by the way there are injuries and bad luck because the bad teams are in the AFC East.

[DapperCam]

56 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I said it in another post and got fried for it. I see maybe one more year with Josh, he will open the new stadium he helped build then call it a career. You are spot on, that he isn't going to live in Buffalo when it’s over and he was never going to play into his mid 30's.  Fans have this fantasy about that and reality is much harsher

You think Allen will play 2 more seasons then retire, leaving potentially $200m+ on the table in future potential earnings? You’re out to lunch dude.

 

I agree he won’t live in Buffalo when he retires, I don’t think anybody expects that (and quite frankly, who cares).

[MikePJ76]

1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I said it in another post and got fried for it. I see maybe one more year with Josh, he will open the new stadium he helped build then call it a career. You are spot on, that he isn't going to live in Buffalo when its over and he was never going to play into his mid 30's.  Fans have this fantasy about that and reality is much harsher

I will bet you anything you want that does not happen.

 

one more year with Josh and he quits is what you are saying.

 

All because they lost an out of character game to miami.

[Buffalo Ballin]

Josh Allen is too competitive to be retiring after one more year. I mean, it's possible he can "Nope" the hell out of here. Reality is stranger than fiction.

 

However, his massive contract says "no you're not retiring."

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Dillenger4 said:

I agree 100%!

I got roasted last year for saying Josh is soft. He is a great QB - but he has a sulky attitude.

My wife screamed "why didnt he run for the TD" when slid at like the 6 yard line.

 

 

[stlbills13]

Whether it's physical, mental, or emotional related - personal, roster, or coaching related - something is wrong with Josh this season. He's just not the same. Is he the main problem? No. But he has to improve. 

Edited 1 hour ago by stlbills13