11/9/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins Post Game Thread

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, JohnNord said:

Ok well, I was responding to the person who called them a “cancer,” and just pointing out that it was ridiculous 

Gotcha.

[JohnNord]

Just now, CincyBillsFan said:

They have also failed to stem the decline of the defense in spite of continuing to feed that side of the ball significant draft & FA capital. So along with your correct observation about not surrounding Allen with more skill player talent, they have dropped the ball on the D. That's 2 very large strategic actions that they have failed at.

 

And while McD/Bean may have the highest winning % by a GM/HC in franchise history they have not come close to matching the achievements of the 1988 - 1993 Bills teams that won 4 of 5 AFC championships and went to 4 straight Super Bowl games.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’m not saying they’re immune to criticism, but to pretend they haven’t “won anything” or that they are a “cancer” is a massive emotional overreaction.

 

As far as your complaints about defense, it hasn’t been great, but in the three losses this season the Bills have scored 20, 14, and 13 points with multiple turnovers on each game (several in the red zone).  
 

How many games are you going to win with that output?  

[NeverOutNick]

Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

I didnt say cancer. I was responding to the whole "they win a lot". Its simply not good enough anymore. Its just not.

I said cancer and it’s because they’re sucking the life out of Josh. Like I’ve said before, every year with Beane and McD is groundhogs day. Bare minimum for the offense with retreads from other teams and the majority of our draft assets going towards the defense and being underwhelming either because of coaching or poor evaluation. It needs to be rooted out, the whole regime. Put Aaron Kromer in charge for the rest of the season I think we get as far or farther and then watch the crop of talented coaches signing up to coach the most talented QB in the league this offseason 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

51 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Who do you want fired on monday morning november 10th?

Beane, I don't want him making anymore personnel decisions for the club.

Edited 4 hours ago by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[wppete]

 

[abranovi]

24 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said:

I hope Babich was the one calling plays today. If that was McDermott calling plays, we are totally screwed. But if that was Babich calling plays, send him on his way. Our defense didn't look this bad last year at all. I said before when we deep sixed Dorsey, we got better offensively. I totally agree, McDermott has to quit protecting his buddies and start doing a better job holding his coaching staff accountable. Namely Babich and whoever is in charge of strength and conditioning. Have we even had a game where there wasn't an injury?

The injuries are absurd, I’ve never seen anything like what the Bills have experienced under this regime 

[tigerthelion]

20 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said:

At some point, injuries piling up does factor in to some of our woes. Beane did try and get Waddle, so he did try. Miami may be regretting that later on. A rebuild will take them years before they're actually contenders. There were quite a few on finheaven upset the Dolphins passed up the offer

Why would a rebuild take years? The Rams went all in, won a championship, and then almost immediately were contenders again. You just need guys who know what they are doing and can properly evaluate talent. 

[uticaclub]

15 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

They haven’t done anything besides winning the highest percentage of games for an HC and GM in franchise history!  🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

There’s plenty of criticism to dish out, but let’s stay rooted in reality.  They’ve never won a Super Bowl but don’t pretend the two men haven’t had a lot of success in Buffalo 

Our franchise history hasn't been that great.

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

I’m not saying they’re immune to criticism, but to pretend they haven’t “won anything” or that they are a “cancer” is a massive emotional overreaction.

 

As far as your complaints about defense, it hasn’t been great, but in the three losses this season the Bills have scored 20, 14, and 13 points with multiple turnovers on each game (several in the red zone).  
 

How many games are you going to win with that output?  

The Chargers are on their way to winning one of those tonight.

 

I agree that it's wrong to call McD/Bean a cancer or that they haven't won anything.  They have been successful and they have created a winning culture.  The problem is that they haven't been good enough given the unicorn of a QB they have.  

[abranovi]

23 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said:

At some point, injuries piling up does factor in to some of our woes. Beane did try and get Waddle, so he did try. Miami may be regretting that later on. A rebuild will take them years before they're actually contenders. There were quite a few on finheaven upset the Dolphins passed up the offer

Well we obviously aren’t much better!

[NeverOutNick]

3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

So you're going on record that the Patriots will either be in or win the Super Bowl this year?

 

I still dont understand why you think Beane and McDermott have anything to do with one another's jobs?  Beane has no control over who the coach is here.  They both report to Pegula.   

First year as the HC of the patriots with a lesser overall roster (remember last year how bad they were and how everyone said they needed alot to rebuild…they were 4-13!) and he’s going to win the division and go farther than the Bills who have the best QB in the league and same coaching staff for 8 years. That’s impressive 

 

Beane and McD will always have each others back imo. That’s the ONLY reason there has been no change. And Pegula imo doesn’t care as long as we keep making the playoffs. Wish Kim was calling the shots I bet we’d see a change 

[billsfan_34]

13 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Tough decisions?
 

You do realize that Brandon Beane can’t fire Sean McDermott, right?    Even if he could I don’t think you can fire McDermott and not fire Beane as well 

Oh he can. Just because they somewhat came together, Beane is the boss. Unless coach has something in his contract im unaware of? Its beyond time now. Nine years of McClappy mistakes year after year. Beane has his share as well.

[JohnNord]

Just now, CincyBillsFan said:

The Chargers are on their way to winning one of those tonight.

 

I agree that it's wrong to call McD/Bean a cancer or that they haven't won anything.  They have been successful and they have created a winning culture.  The problem is that they haven't been good enough given the unicorn of a QB they have.  

So you think you can win games averaging 15 points a game?  Most teams will lose that game

[Since1981]

.They are good men. But…

Objectively, 9 yrs HC

time for fresh ideas, new viewpoints . 

[JohnNord]

3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Oh he can. Just because they somewhat came together, Beane is the boss. Unless coach has something in his contract im unaware of? Its beyond time now. Nine years of McClappy mistakes year after year. Beane has his share as well.

Yes you are very much unaware!  McDermott was hired first.  In his contract he reported to Terry - not the GM, because Whaley was a lame duck.  When Beane was hired, it was announced that both men reported to Terry Pegula and it continued to stay that way through their extensions.  

That’s why Beane CAN’T fire McDermott unless he takes a page out of Littlefinger’s playbook from Game of Thrones 🤣

 

You’re wrong here, bro.  Beane doesn’t have the power to him.  Only Terry

Edited 4 hours ago by JohnNord

[billsfan_34]

41 minutes ago, Kwai San said:

I am truely glad you liked it....you commented so you must have enjoyed it.....thanks for playing!

I dig minimal substance post loss LAMPS. Takes me back to my glory days. I have passed the torch and happy to see you are helping to fill the void 😂

[abranovi]

21 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

They haven’t done anything besides winning the highest percentage of games for an HC and GM in franchise history!  🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

There’s plenty of criticism to dish out, but let’s stay rooted in reality.  They’ve never won a Super Bowl but don’t pretend the two men haven’t had a lot of success in Buffalo 

Yeah, but they have an MVP QB

[CincyBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

So you think you can win games averaging 15 points a game?  Most teams will lose that game

Not every week but on occasion you need to win those games just like you need to win a 41 - 40 game.

 

 

10 minutes ago, tigerthelion said:

Why would a rebuild take years? The Rams went all in, won a championship, and then almost immediately were contenders again. You just need guys who know what they are doing and can properly evaluate talent. 

Ditto for the Chiefs & Eagles.

 

 

[Since1981]

3 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

 

.They are good men. But…

Objectively, 9 yrs HC

time for fresh ideas, new viewpoints . 

 

9 yrs. Ideas and insights become stale
imagine what 17 can STILL learn from  Reed/ Harbaugh/ Mcvey 

[tigerthelion]

4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Not every week but on occasion you need to win those games just like you need to win a 41 - 40 game.

 

 

Ditto for the Chiefs & Eagles.

 

 

The Chiefs even won a Super Bowl in what was considered a rebuild year for them.