Trade Deadline has come and gone

[Nihilarian]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

we don’t have his speed, big play, and return ability

Curtis Samuel runs a 4.31, Elijah Moore runs a 4.35. I've read that Shaheed runs a 4.45.

 

I'm not convinced that Buffalo OC Joe Brady would even utilize a new speedy outside WR. He has some some and doesn't use them. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

I never thought Shaheed or Meyers was much of a fit and I know some posters brought up that both have time as outside WR but I don't think it's a natural fit for them as I think Shaheed was forced to the outside with the Olave concussions and Meyers forced there when Adams was traded but that's just my opinion. I would have loved to get Olave but I don't think the Saints ever had interest in trading him and with good reason but I definitely find it odd that they didn't trade for a pass rusher at all considering the Hoecht news, there had to have been someone who could come in and help. Also what a weird move restructuring Poyer like that, what was he freeing up space for, more guys on injured reserve? 

 

To me it's not the end of the world but 1 injury to Kincaid/Shakir or another top defensive player and it could be catostrophic. I just hope Beane did all the correct calling on some pass rushers and Olave (we'll never know) but just couldn't find a suitor. If we come to find out he didn't want to give up draft picks for players I don't think that's going to sit well with alot of people, me included. 

[jaybeezee]

1 minute ago, Mikey152 said:

It's like you guys never learn your lesson on these players...

 

not all rookies are good day 1

Good! He's invisible.  Shown us something to say that there is hope.  This guy scant get on the field. 

 

Admit that it was a bad pick for where he was drafted. If he was a 5th or 6th I wouldn't even comment on him!

Edited 4 hours ago by jaybeezee

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

I had heard they put in an offer for Metcalf before he was traded. We know they called on Olave. It seems that Beane gets involved in a lot of these discussions but is never willing to cross his own line. Just once I'd like him to cross it. The last time he did in 2020 we ended up with one of the most successful QB/WR duos in franchise history, regardless of how it ended. My concern all along with the trade deadline was that Beane would want to "win" the trade value. I'm more interested in winning a Super Bowl and you don't get there by staying in your comfort zone. That's my two cents.

I don’t disagree at all Hap. My “line” would certainly be further than his on WR. As an example if the Saints or Jags wanted a 1 for Olave or BTJ, I would have pulled the trigger. That’s where I’d give him a hard time but we do not know if that’s the case here. We have no idea what the “cost” was because no one was able to acquire those 2. We know what the cost was on guys that got dealt.
 

I give Beane much more crap for neglecting the position in the draft and valuing the wrong traits (ie Keon). I also think he falls in love with “his” guys like Bernard and makes bad financial decisions from there. I won’t beat him up too much for not being able to acquire a WR from the AFCE (Waddle/Wilson). 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, Mikey152 said:

It's like you guys never learn your lesson on these players...

 

not all rookies are good day 1

I agree. And who knows what Jackson turns into. But had they moved the pick they took him with at last year's trade deadline, it wouldn't have impacted this year much. And maybe it would have acquired a player that helped them get past KC last year. Plausible, at the very least. 

 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

Gabe Davis - when/if healthy to 53?

Asante Samuel? Is he OK with a depth role?
Wilkins? Is he healthy / a sane person?

 

[DeepPass]

56 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

I'll be on a lonely island here, glad we didnt make a trade.  Guys not signed for next year: Bosa, AJE, Daquan, Ogunjobi, Milano, Thompson.   Guys a lot of people want replaced: Rapp, Tre.  Hoecht might not be ready to start the year.  We're over the cap in 2026 as of right now, so what's your plan for next year if you give away picks?   Beane's job is to look at this team long term not just this year.  There are still a lot of holes to fill next off season.

Excellent, spot-on post!!!

[Alphadawg7]

13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

we don’t have his speed, big play, and return ability

 

We actually have more speed than he brings in Samuel and Moore.  We just don't use them.  Shakir has the same speed Shaheed has by the way.  Shaheed never made any sense to me for a trade.  

 

I mean MVS was useless here and then went to Saints and caught some big deep ball plays.  Why?  Because Allen is not a very good deep ball thrower and this offense isn't built to try and make that a more common play.  

 

Make no mistake about it - we have the horses on this roster right now, and we had Harty last year too - another deep ball hitter for Saints but not here for the same reasons MVS, Samuel, and Moore arent either.  All 4 of those guys (MVS, Samuel, Moore, and Harty) are faster than Shaheed too.

Edited 4 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[Fan in Chicago]

13 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Shaheed is another WR3.  He was really hyped here - but we have a roster full of WR3's.

 

If we were looking for a #1 WR. We would have liked one but we didn't need one. We did need a field stretcher and boundary guy. He fit the bill. 

13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Shaheed would have cost the Bills like a 3rd and 6th probably (or something like that). The 4th and 5th wouldn’t have been quite enough. That’s a move that I probably would have made as well but it isn’t a no brainer. 

At the trade deadline , these deals are often overpaid by the buyer. So yes, a tad expensive but wouldn't mortgage our 2026 draft 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

 

We actually have more speed than he brings in Samuel and Moore.  We just don't use them.  Shakir has the same speed Shaheed has by the way.  Shaheed never made any sense to me for a trade.  

 

I mean MVS was useless here and then went to Saints and caught some big deep ball plays.  Why?  Because Allen is not a very good deep ball thrower and this offense isn't built to try and make that a more common play.  

 

Make no mistake about it - we have the horses on this roster right now, and we had Harty last year too - another deep ball hitter for Saints but not here for the same reasons MVS, Samuel, and Moore arent either.  All 4 of those guys (MVS, Samuel, Moore, and Harty) are faster than Shaheed too.

oh? Is that why Shaheed had the fastest mph on a TD this season?  22.9 or whatever it was

 

He’s going to shred teams deep along with JSN. Awesome move for Seahawks fans

[oldmanfan]

29 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

The guy did nothing because the fanbase supports ineptitude. 2 years we don’t have a legitimate #1or #2 receiver. We lose 3 D_tackles long term and he does nothing. We lose our starting safety, he stands pat. I’m sorry, his drafts suck,why are we afraid of bringing in a good player for draft choices that don’t pan out.

You know what?  You’re really just full of crap.  This blanket statement about the fan base supports ineptitude is absolute BS.  Just quit rooting for them and get out then.

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

So for what Seattle paid, we couldn't have done. I bet if we offered them a 3rd they would jumped all over it.

 

Beane sucks... period! Pegula is too stupid and afraid to make a move there.

 

Seattle has a dominant WR and they just got him help. Something Beane refuses to do for Josh. L9ok at Darnolds numbers and look at Josh's.  Then tell me why. Don't say it's because Josh has no receivers and we have the chance to trade for one that's not in our division. 

That’s the deal that he can take heat for. I would have paid that price for Shaheed. He would have been a great fit. Waddle and Wilson weren’t options for the Bills. 
 

The Colts made a huge move. It could end up being a complete disaster and not because Sauce isn’t good. If Jones isn’t good, which is still TBD, they have no QB and no picks. Maybe they run through vets like Mac Jones and Tua and Lawrence or Kyler but is that a Super Bowl move? 
 

I am by no means defending him but get it. If Olave/Waddle/Wilson/DJ Moore/ Deebo etc were all moving around, I would be like WTH? They didn’t. There were lots of teams trying to get WRs and 2 moves I think. This is all the more reason to move UP in the draft to get WRs. They don’t move around easily. Teams re-sign the good ones now. You need to get a good one and not trade back to take Keon Coleman.

[DeepPass]

18 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

No Beane doesn’t, but ownership does. When fans complain  on sports talk shows and on message boards,,podcasters, owners pick up on it. 

Ownership has a sold out OLD stadium and a lot of cash from seat licenses and season tickets in the NEW stadium!  They are happy!

[HamptonBillsfan]

16 minutes ago, todd said:

You're right. Cook sucks. Allen sucks. Kincaid sucks. Bishop sucks. Dawkins sucks. Spencer Brown sucks. Torrence sucks. Ed Oliver sucks. Epinesa sucks. Shakir sucks. Walker sucks. Hawes sucks. Hariston sucks. 

 

Yeah, Beane sucks at drafting. You're smart.

You’re fine with no moves for a receiver,D-tackle or secondary. You’re satisfied losing to KC 4 times in a row in the playoffs. Drafts in th last 3 years have been bad. Hairston played 1/2 the snaps in one game, Hawes is a 7th round pick and a blocking TE. He looks promising but anointing him and Hairston good  choices, maybe premature no. Walker looks good but Sanders and Turner are nowhere. 

[MikePJ76]

Te’cory couch was brought in for a workout also

Edited 4 hours ago by MikePJ76

[Simon]

25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Again, I’m asking, “which specific move AND at what price would you have done?” 
 

 

 

Ed Oliver, a 2nd and a 4th for Quinnen Williams (I know it's probably fraught with issues re: the cap and the division, but it could have helped both teams)

[Fan in Chicago]

16 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

. It seems that Beane gets involved in a lot of these discussions but is never willing to cross his own line. Just once I'd like him to cross it.

Yes. Exactly my point. 

It is like never enjoying the steaks and nice vacations during your youth and earning years because you want to save every penny for retirement 

Edited 4 hours ago by Fan in Chicago

[RyanC883]

Not adding on the DL when there was prob a late round trade to be made is a little confusing.  

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

oh? Is that why Shaheed had the fastest mph on a TD this season?  22.9 or whatever it was

 

He’s going to shred teams deep along with JSN. Awesome move for Seahawks fans

 

Samuel runs a 4.31 forty, faster than his rumored to be 4.35 - 4.45 40 time.  Elijah 4.35 forty time.  Shakir 4.43 forty time.

 

So Samuel and Elijah are either faster or as fast.  So again we HAVE the speed on this roster already, and we DONT use it.  And Shakir is also pretty fast too.  

 

I ask you again, what did MVS and Harty do in NO that they did NOT do here?  Oh hit the deep home run shots - why because Allen cant throw them (missed MVS twice on 100% TD shots by a mile before we cut MVS) well and Brady doesn't utilize it in his offense (Diggs was on pace for 2nd best season of his career before Brady took over and changed the offense making Diggs average 8 yards per catch rest of the season).  

 

Shaheed might very well compliment the Seattle offense quite well...because they take deep shots.  But that doesn't mean he would have done any of that here, especially when we have 2 guys as fast or faster and do not at all use them in that capacity what so ever - a year after also have speedsters MVS and Harty who we also did not use in that capacity, and the few times we did, Allen missed he wide open throws deep.  

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

Ed Oliver, a 2nd and a 4th for Quinnen Williams

I don’t think that gets it done. They got a 1&2 from Dallas (I think). We would have paid the “division tax.” It would have been 2 firsts and that STILL may not have happened.