Bills restructure Taron Johnson creating 1.75 million in cap space

[JBI$111]

4 hours ago, mannc said:

That’s just about enough to sign Rashid Shaheed…

 

Yes, and if they do, it shows you that Beane has been consistently wrong (which of course he'll never admit cuz his ego is bigger than his brain) on not using nearly enough of our draft capital on quality wide receivers in the higher rounds that could have been on cost-controlled contracts for 4 to 5 years (it would have also helped our constant bad cap situation, including minimizing to some degree a lot of his bad contracts). And specifically if they do a mid-season acquisition of a receiver yet again, what does that say about Beane always pushing back on that narrative every year. We all remember him bashing Jeremy White, well this would be mea culpa on his part. That is, his hand being forced to do the obvious, which most everybody with even a pea brain has known for years, including the smart loyal fans, that he has consistently under invested with middling wide receiver weapons for years thinking it's enough for Josh and Josh has unfortunately, had to make the best of it basically. 

 

Just like last year mid season, bringing in Amari Cooper for a third round pick. Why is he doing this constantly if he's so right, because each year a hammer finally hits him over the head with the obvious midway through the season because of the loud criticism and what we see on the field that what we have at the wide receiver position, is not nearly enough, duh! And then he has to constantly backtrack, never of course admitting that he's mismanaged the wide receiver position, and that we need more weapons on the offensive side of the ball. 

 

Another problem is he's had a ton of bad pics over the years that has exaggerated the situation where he's had to go back to the same areas over and over again because he's gotten it wrong so many times, which has been mostly along the defensive line.

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, JBI$111 said:

 

Yes, and if they do, it shows you that Beane has been consistently wrong (which of course he'll never admit cuz his ego is bigger than his brain) on not using nearly enough of our draft capital on quality wide receivers in the higher rounds that could have been on cost-controlled contracts for 4 to 5 years (it would have also helped our constant bad cap situation, including minimizing to some degree a lot of his bad contracts). And specifically if they do a mid-season acquisition of a receiver yet again, what does that say about Beane always pushing back on that narrative every year. We all remember him bashing Jeremy White, well this would be mea culpa on his part. That is, his hand being forced to do the obvious, which most everybody with even a pea brain has known for years, including the smart loyal fans, that he has consistently under invested with middling wide receiver weapons for years thinking it's enough for Josh and Josh has unfortunately, had to make the best of it basically. 

 

Just like last year mid season, bringing in Amari Cooper for a third round pick. Why is he doing this constantly if he's so right, because each year a hammer finally hits him over the head with the obvious midway through the season because of the loud criticism and what we see on the field that what we have at the wide receiver position, is not nearly enough, duh! And then he has to constantly backtrack, never of course admitting that he's mismanaged the wide receiver position, and that we need more weapons on the offensive side of the ball. 

 

Another problem is he's had a ton of bad pics over the years that has exaggerated the situation where he's had to go back to the same areas over and over again because he's gotten it wrong so many times, which has been mostly along the defensive line.

 

All those bad picks but yet he has the highest draft AV in the NFL...

 

As usual fan perception is well off from reality due to not knowing what they are comparing to among 31 other teams

 

[NickelCity]

Please get Olave....

[That's No Moon]

1 minute ago, NickelCity said:

Please get Olave....

I feel like every time I flip on a Saints game I'm watching him drop a pass.  I'm sure that's not the case, but it sure feels like it.

[Richard Noggin]

44 minutes ago, JBI$111 said:

Another problem is he's had a ton of bad pics over the years that has exaggerated the situation where he's had to go back to the same areas over and over again because he's gotten it wrong so many times, which has been mostly along the defensive line.

 

Do you have any of these compromising photos/pics of him? How is this the first I'm hearing of this!

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

All those bad picks but yet he has the highest draft AV in the NFL...

 

As usual fan perception is well off from reality due to not knowing what they are comparing to among 31 other teams

 

I mean, his picks are competing with his own roster. So I’m not sure how valid AV is. 

[Sierra Foothills]

6 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Best player in the nfl (that canceled a family vacation to appear in a playoff game) 

 

... for 200 Alex...

 

6 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Eli Ankou signing imminent….

 

 

6 hours ago, Pete said:

Shaheed and Harrison Phillips are two very plausible acquisitions 

 

6 hours ago, Walking Tall said:

I’m predicting Olave and Harrison Phillips.

 

6 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

I wouldn't mind Olave, but Shaheed makes more sense to me because he can return kicks too. We've got Codrington occupying a roster spot and he's been a healthy scratch for several weeks now.

 

Harrison Phillips makes sense due to all the injuries and question marks on the interior of the line.

 

I'm not feeling the Harrison Phillips vibe. I don't think the Bills list of needs include a run-stuffing DT... especially because they can elevate Phidarian Mathis (dude is HUGE) two more times or sign Zion Logue if necessary. They're not gonna trade a pick on a position that can be filled sufficiently on the very cheap, IMO.

 

With the recent flashes by Bishop, Hairston, and Hancock I also don't think they view secondary as a need.

 

I would guess wide receiver and pass rusher... either interior or edge.

 

6 hours ago, Blank Stare said:

 

Dylan McDermott or Dermot Mulroney?

 

Some guys laugh when they tell a joke... I really appreciate your dry delivery.

 

5 hours ago, Simon said:

We also have too many Dorians.

We need to get back to the days where we had 6-7 Bills.

 

5 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Best Williams available

 

And yet the Bills have never had a player named William Williams.

 

3 hours ago, Einstein said:

Jakobi would be dissapointng 

 

I'd mock your spelling except I'm afraid you'd ask me questions about theoretical physics.

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Sierra Foothills

[The Wiz]

[JP51]

3 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

I'd say there's no way.  I was just showing the cap hits are under what they just cleared

Fair but to be honest he is a guy whose speed we could use i just dont see it myself either 

[Dan Darragh]

Is Da'Rick still working at Jiffy Lube?

 

 

9 hours ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/bills-may-be-back-maxx-crosby-market-after-superstars-latest-post-hints-trade-joey-bosa-kansas-city-chiefs/166ea602f6211902af11058e

 

please oh please oh please.  i know i know...but it'd be great i think Maxx would love being a Bill much like Bosa is currently. actually having a fan base and all

Maxx thinks "Yall" is an actual word.  Do you think he would understand the playbook (if it's written in English)?

Edited 7 hours ago by Dan Darragh

[Dan Darragh]

Here's a list of once-good players the Bills picked up only to realize that they were over the hill:

 

Beasley (second time)

John Brown (second time)

Reggie Bush

Matt Cassel

Tim Couch

Vince Young

Matt Leinart

(those are the only ones who come to mind quickly but there are surely others, please add)

 

Hoping Harrison is not a potential addition to this list.

[Big Turk]

6 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I mean, his picks are competing with his own roster. So I’m not sure how valid AV is. 

 

So are every other teams. Or are there different rules for them?

[dave mcbride]

7 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I mean, his picks are competing with his own roster. So I’m not sure how valid AV is. 

AV is real, but Josh,Allen is an AV god and skews everything,

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

AV is real, but Josh,Allen is an AV god and skews everything,

 

It's also far easier to make a roster and impact as a young player on other teams since there are a lot more openings.

[Mikie2times]

42 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

So are every other teams. Or are there different rules for them?

Given how you're using AV is subject to how you build your roster, yes, different philosophies leading to different results. "Draft, Develop, Retain" as Beane says. 

 

Your big call out is nothing more than how the Bills like to build the team and the total success they have had which provides more AV points. They don't bring many competitive free agents and will give excessive chances to draft picks. Allen pulls the rankings up more which provides more AV points to be distributed. This method is severely flawed to to the point where I doubt the people at pro football reference would even consider it functional.  

[twist_to_open]

8 hours ago, NickelCity said:

Please get Olave....

I don't know if it's been brought up yet, but CBS sports is reporting this morning that the Bills have called the Saints about Olave.

[GolfandBills]

1 minute ago, twist_to_open said:

I don't know if it's been brought up yet, but CBS sports is reporting this morning that the Bills have called the Saints about Olave.

That’s been reported for days and the report also says it’s expected the Saints will not trade him 

[Big Turk]

32 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Given how you're using AV is subject to how you build your roster, yes, different philosophies leading to different results. "Draft, Develop, Retain" as Beane says. 

 

Your big call out is nothing more than how the Bills like to build the team and the total success they have had which provides more AV points. They don't bring many competitive free agents and will give excessive chances to draft picks. Allen pulls the rankings up more which provides more AV points to be distributed. This method is severely flawed to to the point where I doubt the people at pro football reference would even consider it functional.  

 

That's not true because they also lead the NFL in players career AV that he has drafted even accounting for when they go to other teams.

 

So he leads in Draft AV for his own team and also for Career AV for players he drafted on ANY team, counting even after they leave the Bills.

Edited 3 hours ago by Big Turk

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

That's not true because they also lead the NFL in players career AV that he has drafted even accounting for when they go to other teams.

 

So he leads in Draft AV for his own team and also for Career AV for players he drafted on ANY team, counting even after they leave the Bills.

I know you like to throw that caveat in because I have discussed this with you before. But our total production outside of Buffalo is such a small sliver of the pie, I really don't think it somehow validates AV as a measure for draft success. The stat is influenced by too much. I applaud the attempt at trying to solve for the unsolvable problem in a uniform way. It's creative and well done. I just don't agree that is accurate enough. 

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I know you like to throw that caveat in because I have discussed this with you before. But our total production outside of Buffalo is such a small sliver of the pie, I really don't think it somehow validates AV as a measure for draft success. The stat is influenced by too much. I applaud the attempt at trying to solve for the unsolvable problem in a uniform way. It's creative and well done. I just don't agree that is accurate enough. 

 

I mean that is a fair point. There is no single measure that can really account for these things overall, but what it DOES show is that Beane is far more successful compared to his peers than most give him credit for.