Jordan Poyer and Jordan Phillips Signed to the Active Roster

[Blank Stare]

I get why, but FFS go outside the organization sometimes. Won’t kill you. Enough with the retreads. 

[CincyBillsFan]

11 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Big play big drop Gabe, If he’s even that good anymore.

Which is still better then the current crop of "no play" boundary WR's. 

 

Beggars can't be choosers and it seemed like both Davis & Hollins had a knack of linking up with Allen on those off structure plays that Coleman/Morre/Palmer/Shavers haven't shown yet.

 

 

[Pete]

20 minutes ago, JellyBeane said:

Dropped Passes and INT's off his fingertips soon to follow

Not to mention our WRs are getting slower when we add Gabe.  The whole universe knows that the Bills WR group needs speed added to it!  Everyone that is, except Beane- who chooses to get slower and add Gabe.  

Edited 3 hours ago by Pete

[FireChans]

Can we link the topic where folks were saying Poyer was never gonna play?

[PayDaBill$]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Which is still better then the current crop of "no play" boundary WR's. 

 

Beggars can't be choosers and it seemed like both Davis & Hollins had a knack of linking up with Allen on those off structure plays that Coleman/Morre/Palmer/Shavers haven't shown yet.

 

 

Is it ? How good is he now? He’s still injured, is he even near 100%.

 

He’s not a solution.

Edited 3 hours ago by PayDaBill$

[BillsFanForever19]

21 minutes ago, GroteStreet said:

I guess zion logue is too young to bring to active roster.  He has not been in the system long enough.

 

No, it's that Daquan Jones is coming back either this week or next week and we still have another Phil Mathis call up.

 

Wherein we have Larry Ogunjobi and literally nothing else behind him at 3T and we've used all 3 of Jordan Phillips call up's.

[BillsFanForever19]

15 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Is it ? How good is he now? He’s still injured, is he even near 100%.

 

He’s not a solution.

 

If you think we're better off with what we're getting out of Tyrell Shavers (one of 3 WR's active every game and has gone without a catch in 5 of 7 games), Curtis Samuel (who's only been active for 3 games and has a total of 3 catches for 35 yards), and Elijah Moore (who's been active for 5 games and has 5 catches for 78 yards) - you're either a.) insanely out of touch or b.) letting your hatred for Gabe Davis and/or retreads blind you.

 

We wouldn't activate Gabe Davis expecting him to be "the solution". We should still go out and trade for a WR. But he'd be an upgrade over what we're getting out of at least half of our WR core. And we need all the help we can get.

 

I used this analogy in another thread - Gabe Davis is definitely not 5 star restaurant dining. He's like getting Burger King. But when you're literally eating spoiled, half eaten food out of a garbage can - you'll take some Burger King.

Edited 2 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[PayDaBill$]

12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

If you think we're better off with what we're getting out of Tyrell Shavers (one of 3 WR's active every game and has gone without a catch in 5 of 7 games), Curtis Samuel (who's only been active for 3 games and has a total of 3 catches for 35 yards), and Elijah Moore (who's been active for 5 games and has 5 catches for 78 yards) - you're either a.) insanely out of touch or b.) letting your hatred Gabe Davis and/or retreads blind you.

 

We wouldn't activate Gabe Davis expecting him to be "the solution". We should still go out and trade for a WR. But he'd be an upgrade over what we're getting out of at least half of our WR core. And we need all the help we can get.

Love the absolutes. Lmao

 

Torn meniscus and PCL. Any idea how healthy he is, or how in shape?  

 

Edited 2 hours ago by PayDaBill$

[TheBrownBear]

Have there been any updates on Gabe's health? He should be recovered from a meniscus tear at this point (11 months).  Would be nice to at least have him as an option.

[boyst]

1 hour ago, BlazinBill said:

Christian Wilkins? 
I know him and Josh are pretty tight

I think there was intention between the two, I can't put my finger on it...

[BillsFanForever19]

9 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Love the absolutes. Lmao

 

Torn meniscus and PCL. Any idea how healthy he is, or how in shape?  

 

What absolutes? That Gabe should provide more than guys like Shavers, Moore, and Coleman? 

 

Really not much of a stretch. The grand sum total through 7 games for *HALF* of our entire WR core combined is 13 catches for 164 yards and 1 TD. You're insane if you think we're better off with that. We have to try anything available at our disposal to improve the core anywhere.

 

He didn't retear the PCL in Jacksonville, but the Torn Meniscus did require surgery - which he got practically 1 calendar year ago.

 

He's on the upswing and has been doing more in practice. Obviously, you don't activate him until he's ready. 

 

 

[PayDaBill$]

8 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Have there been any updates on Gabe's health? He should be recovered from a meniscus tear at this point (11 months).  Would be nice to at least have him as an option.

Meniscus and PCL 

[BlazinBill]

6 minutes ago, boyst said:

I think there was intention between the two, I can't put my finger on it...

Yeah I just can’t wrap my hand around it either 

 

or head is the saying maybe…

[PayDaBill$]

11 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

What absolutes? That Gabe should provide more than guys like Shavers, Moore, and Coleman? 

 

Really not much of a stretch. The grand sum total through 7 games for *HALF* of our entire WR core combined is 13 catches for 164 yards and 1 TD. You're insane if you think we're better off with that. We have to try anything available at our disposal to improve the core anywhere.

 

He didn't retear the PCL in Jacksonville, but the Torn Meniscus did require surgery - which he got practically 1 calendar year ago.

 

He's on the upswing and has been doing more in practice. Obviously, you don't activate him until he's ready. 

 

 

He’s on an exercise bike, dressed big deal. He’s likely weeks away and what about conditioning? He hasn’t done anything since week 11 2024 other than rehab.  You’re the one touting that he’s a better option than what we have currently have on the roster.  This dude hasn’t played football, been at full speed  or been a part of contact workouts since Nov last year.  Give it up!

Edited 2 hours ago by PayDaBill$

[Bills!Win!]

55 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Is Hyde ready for the PS again ?

The only key players we are missing from our run the last 5 years is Diggs, Beasely, Hyde and Edmunds. We don’t really have much turnover on our team 

55 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Is Hyde ready for the PS again ?

The only key players we are missing from our run the last 5 years is Diggs, Beasely, Hyde and Edmunds. We don’t really have much turnover on our team 

[Mikie2times]

I didn't like the idea of bringing Gabe back. But given the state of this WR core is he an upgrade? If he's healthy I don't think any question exists that he is. He has shown more in his career than Coleman has. He's a better vertical threat, better blocker, better sideline toe tapper. It's absolutely pathetic what this team has done at WR for it to come to this, but yes, Gabe Davis is upgrading the WR core and is most likely the best boundary WR on this team.   

Edited 2 hours ago by Mikie2times

[Buffalo716]

15 minutes ago, boyst said:

I think there was intention between the two, I can't put my finger on it...

I think Wilkins was sniffing his finger after his interaction 

[BillsFanForever19]

16 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

He’s on an exercise bike, dressed big deal. He could weeks away and what about conditioning? He hasn’t done anything since week 11 2024 other than rehab.  You’re the one touting that he’s a better option than what we have currently have on the roster.  This dude hasn’t played football or been a part of contact workouts since mid season last year.  Give it up!

 

No one is saying throw him on the field right now. You obviously don't do it until he's ready. But he's on the upswing. With Joe reporting he was seen in a helmet for the first time from what the media is allowed to see and Sal reporting that he expects him to be activated soon.

 

You understand people return from injuries right? It's like you're arguing that since he was hurt a year ago, he'll never ever return and won't ever be an option. He'll be ready to take the field in the near future.

 

Did he kick your dog or something? Like I don't understand dying on the hill of "Gabe Davis shouldn't be our 5th or 6th WR". Sticking with what we're getting out of the bottom half of our WR core bc you didn't like Davis as a starter is biting off your nose to spite your face.

Edited 2 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Poyer is a coach on the field for Bishop and Hairston.  Probably not much of a downgrade from what Rapp was offering.  Helps in the locker room.  Good move.  

 

Phillips still offers some inside pass rush.  He's a liability against the run, but so is every DT on the roster right now.  Maybe Ogunjobi can be the run stuffer.  Walker is learning on the job and makes some splash plays but some other plays where he is blocked out of position.  

 

I don't really think it matters.  McDermott has switched his philosophy for run defense considerably this year.  He is using the 4-3 much more.  I think he has given up hope the DTs can be stout in the run game.  Same with Taron.  He's getting abused taking so many hits.  He dabbled in it last year but the LB's were even worse last year.  Now with Shaq and hopefully getting Bernard and Milano back they have 4 capable LBs and Buffalo Joe in an emergency.  It worked against the Panthers because Dalton was awful.  Will have to see if it works against a capable QB.    

[Sojourner]

10 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Poyer is a coach on the field for Bishop and Hairston.  Probably not much of a downgrade from what Rapp was offering.  Helps in the locker room.  Good move.  

 

Phillips still offers some inside pass rush.  He's a liability against the run, but so is every DT on the roster right now.  Maybe Ogunjobi can be the run stuffer.  Walker is learning on the job and makes some splash plays but some other plays where he is blocked out of position.  

 

I don't really think it matters.  McDermott has switched his philosophy for run defense considerably this year.  He is using the 4-3 much more.  I think he has given up hope the DTs can be stout in the run game.  Same with Taron.  He's getting abused taking so many hits.  He dabbled in it last year but the LB's were even worse last year.  Now with Shaq and hopefully getting Bernard and Milano back they have 4 capable LBs and Buffalo Joe in an emergency.  It worked against the Panthers because Dalton was awful.  Will have to see if it works against a capable QB.    

Dont disagree but it seemed like Hairston is on the coaching standard on the field too. 
 

Every play he was communicating with other guys. Very rarely saw it as much in a single game from the whole secondary prior to him being in the lineup.