Carson Wentz to have season ending shoulder surgery

[Draconator]

 

[dorquemada]

That's on the coach.  He should have been pulled from that game

[billsfan714]

31 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

And Kirk Herbstreit bought called him a wuss for showing pain.

[MiltonWaddams]

He played like he needed a double shoulder replacement 

[Rigotz]

This is the Buffalo Bills content we all have come here for

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Minnesota's hopes Wentz out the window...

[SCBills]

29 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

And Kirk Herbstreit bought called him a wuss for showing pain.

Kirk went at Wentz like he had a personal issue with him.  That was weird and completely unprofessional.  

[Captain_Quint]

51 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Kirk went at Wentz like he had a personal issue with him.  That was weird and completely unprofessional.  

Forgot about that comment, but I found it weird when watching the game. Basically saying QBs should never show that they're in pain because his teammates will see it. 

[zow2]

I had a right shoulder injury a couple years ago.  Probably nothing close to what Wentz is dealing with and it was the most painful thing i’ve ever experienced. You can’t even sleep because every movement is excruciating. for months.  I could not even toss a ball for a year. I still feel it but it’s much better. I have empathy for Wentz here.

[BuffaloBillyG]

They kept him together with glue and tape til JJ McCarthy was ready. The ol Kevin Stefanski method 

[BillsShredder83]

17 hours ago, Captain_Quint said:

Forgot about that comment, but I found it weird when watching the game. Basically saying QBs should never show that they're in pain because his teammates will see it. 

He meant the literal tears and crying.  Knowing what we know now, Kirk probably deserves to issue an apology; private or publicly.  At the time, it very much reminded me of the Derek Carr scene, crying on the field, after getting smacked around on blitzes/sacks, and upset at a turnover or whatever it was.  That was embarrassing.  I'm not even a biggest meathead type personality, around this sport, and it permanently changed how I saw that dude...

 

Now imagine this through the lens of an NFL room; containing 53 highhh T dudes. Each have 25years of always being the most alpha in any room, their entire room. Every guy banged up and hurting, they're pissed off too.... and you see a guy thats supposed to lead you crying like that. This wasnt crying during emotionally charged Natty Anthem, or Hamlin dying on the field, or death of a teammate.  That was a look most here can remember seeing on a literal broken child; too soft for pop-warner/JV.  They knew and everyone else knew - they didnt belong at this level, and they'd never make it.

 

Probably wouldn't admit it, but he lost support on the team that night from players, and staff.  Wentz gets a pass here (sort of) because he had a broken shoulder... if we're being honest, what we saw is what we already knew - He knew and everyone else knew - he didnt belong at this level, and he'd never make it.

 

This is NOT criticism about his talent level anywhere near as much as, it's about his heart.  Wentz has NEVER had his heart into it. He has never appeared to be a guy who loved NFL football... might have not loved college ball either.  It's a career to him, and it oozes out of him talking.

[BuffaloBillyG]

11 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

He meant the literal tears and crying.  Knowing what we know now, Kirk probably deserves to issue an apology; private or publicly.  At the time, it very much reminded me of the Derek Carr scene, crying on the field, after getting smacked around on blitzes/sacks, and upset at a turnover or whatever it was.  That was embarrassing.  I'm not even a biggest meathead type personality, around this sport, and it permanently changed how I saw that dude...

 

Now imagine this through the lens of an NFL room; containing 53 highhh T dudes. Each have 25years of always being the most alpha in any room, their entire room. Every guy banged up and hurting, they're pissed off too.... and you see a guy thats supposed to lead you crying like that. This wasnt crying during emotionally charged Natty Anthem, or Hamlin dying on the field, or death of a teammate.  That was a look most here can remember seeing on a literal broken child; too soft for pop-warner/JV.  They knew and everyone else knew - they didnt belong at this level, and they'd never make it.

 

Probably wouldn't admit it, but he lost support on the team that night from players, and staff.  Wentz gets a pass here (sort of) because he had a broken shoulder... if we're being honest, what we saw is what we already knew - He knew and everyone else knew - he didnt belong at this level, and he'd never make it.

 

This is NOT criticism about his talent level anywhere near as much as, it's about his heart.  Wentz has NEVER had his heart into it. He has never appeared to be a guy who loved NFL football... might have not loved college ball either.  It's a career to him, and it oozes out of him talking.

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