Hate to say this … but the Pats are effing good

[Metal Man]

I see lots of people keep pointing to the last place schedule but I'm not sure how much that factors in seeing it is only 3 games.

 

Right now they are 1-1 in those games with the NYG still to go while Buffalo is 1-0 with Houston and Philly still to go so worst case scenario it is only a 1 win advantage for the Pats***. 

 

Problem right now is Buffalo lost to them head to head, lost to a team that they beat in Atlanta, and will lose to another team they beat in Tampa if Buffalo can't get it together and take care of business this weekend.

 

Now if the Bills lose the division by 1 game and those 3 games were the difference then maybe there is an argument for the weak schedule thing but as of right now that seems a little overblown to me.

[May Day 10]

Id also say it is very tough to win all the 'easy' games.  That in of itself is a mark of an actually good team.  

[IYKYK]

2 hours ago, WNYFAN1 said:

What's he doing better than Maye this year?

I was speaking overall. I have no clue what their stats are, but overall, Allen has proven himself. Hell he won the MVP last year and know your acting like he is a scrub. 🙄

2 hours ago, WNYFAN1 said:

What's he doing better than Maye this year?

I was speaking overall. I have no clue what their stats are, but overall, Allen has proven himself. Hell he won the MVP last year and know your acting like he is a scrub. 🙄

[WNYFAN1]

5 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

I was speaking overall. I have no clue what their stats are, but overall, Allen has proven himself. Hell he won the MVP last year and know your acting like he is a scrub. 🙄

I was speaking overall. I have no clue what their stats are, but overall, Allen has proven himself. Hell he won the MVP last year and know your acting like he is a scrub. 🙄

Um ok. Saying another QB is outplaying Allen this year absolutely doesn't mean Allen is a "scrub". And just because he won the MVP last year doesn't mean he can't play poorly or even below his own standards. Weird that I'd even need to point that out.

[Psautcsk]

3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Have you read this board? Did you read the BN article linked on the front page? Everyone had declared that the Bills are no longer Super Bowl contenders after one football game. It was that bad. You have posters on this board in another thread predicting an 8-9 final record. If you are not panicking, then you are in the vast minority of Bills fans. Most of us see the start of another decades-long Pats dynasty. They have the QB, the cap space, the coaching, and an owner who is content with nothing less than winning the Super Bowl every year. We have an aging QB who seems disinterested (I'm more than just a football player), a mediocre coach, no cap space, and an owner who wants to sell tickets above all else. You also have the spector of losing multiple home games to Toronto. So yeah, this is a 5-alarm fire.

 

Yeah, it's just football. I get that. But the Bills are a big part of my life, and they are the only attachment that I have left to my hometown. So they mean a lot to me and seeing the window slam shut, probably for the rest of my life (I'm 51 and won't survive another drought) is painful. The word disappointment doesn't even begin to describe it. And no one who could do something seems to care. The owner is only concerned with selling PSL to the 6 homes games he'll play in his new stadium that we paid for and the GM is more concerned with never falling below .500 than winning a SB. And no one, from the owner down to the players, understands how much it hurts all of us to see that team rise. I f it were the Jets of Fins, I wouldn't care. But the Pats? Close your eyes and picture Diggs holding the Lombardi above his head this February. That's not a fantasy, it's a preview because they are BY FAR the best team in the league right now. Why do those Massholes get to win AGAIN!!!!! They always get to win.  In all sports. Buffalo gets one team that gets close every decade or so, but never gets it done. It really sucks. 

Thank you! I live in New England and it sucks to see what has happened in the past 9 months. It truly does feel like 5 years ago except the Bills are the 2020 Pats and the Pats are the 2020 Bills. Check out the ticket prices for the Bills Pats game coming up in Foxboro.

[Gregg]

11 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Have you read this board? Did you read the BN article linked on the front page? Everyone had declared that the Bills are no longer Super Bowl contenders after one football game. It was that bad. You have posters on this board in another thread predicting an 8-9 final record. If you are not panicking, then you are in the vast minority of Bills fans. Most of us see the start of another decades-long Pats dynasty. They have the QB, the cap space, the coaching, and an owner who is content with nothing less than winning the Super Bowl every year. We have an aging QB who seems disinterested (I'm more than just a football player), a mediocre coach, no cap space, and an owner who wants to sell tickets above all else. You also have the spector of losing multiple home games to Toronto. So yeah, this is a 5-alarm fire.

 

Yeah, it's just football. I get that. But the Bills are a big part of my life, and they are the only attachment that I have left to my hometown. So they mean a lot to me and seeing the window slam shut, probably for the rest of my life (I'm 51 and won't survive another drought) is painful. The word disappointment doesn't even begin to describe it. And no one who could do something seems to care. The owner is only concerned with selling PSL to the 6 homes games he'll play in his new stadium that we paid for and the GM is more concerned with never falling below .500 than winning a SB. And no one, from the owner down to the players, understands how much it hurts all of us to see that team rise. I f it were the Jets of Fins, I wouldn't care. But the Pats? Close your eyes and picture Diggs holding the Lombardi above his head this February. That's not a fantasy, it's a preview because they are BY FAR the best team in the league right now. Why do those Massholes get to win AGAIN!!!!! They always get to win.  In all sports. Buffalo gets one team that gets close every decade or so, but never gets it done. It really sucks. 

 

Losing home games to Toronto? Since when are the Bills going to start playing home games in Toronto. That makes no sense especially with the new stadium opening in 2026.

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Losing home games to Toronto? Since when are the Bills going to start playing home games in Toronto. That makes no sense especially with the new stadium opening in 2026.

They're softening the ground for a game in Toronto. Why else form a partnership with MLSE?

 

https://www.tsn.ca/nfl/maple-leafs-sports-entertainment-enters-into-partnership-with-buffalo-bills-1.2357183

[Sojourner]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

Losing home games to Toronto? Since when are the Bills going to start playing home games in Toronto. That makes no sense especially with the new stadium opening in 2026.

Gregg, there will 100% be a Toronto game or games down the road..

 

The Bills partnered with MLSE who own the Toronto Argonauts in September this year. Something is in the works there. 

Even Pete Guelli said he sees the team playing a future NFL game in Toronto, especially if the NFL decides to expand its international game offerings to Canada. 
 

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/toronto-argonauts-to-host-future-of-football-game-in-partnership-with-the-buffalo-bills

 

[quincy]

If I could teleport myself into the voice, mind, body and soul of Terry Pegula during a Bills meeting this week for 15 seconds, I would say to Beane and McDermott, "if the New England Patriots are the AFC champions this year, you both shall be receiving your pink slip on Monday 26 January 2026, am I understood gentlemen?".  

 

If New England get to the Super Bowl this year it shows how flawed our processes have been, stalling and treading water at best. 

 

Arguments can be made that we already need a fresh start, for me if NE are AFC champions this year that seals the deal. How can year 10 of McDermott be feasible? 

 

Last place schedule, fluke season, whatever, even if they are 5-12 next year somehow, NE would have achieved more in ONE season than we have done in 8 years. 

 

It is disgusting to be even contemplating thoughts like this, yet here we are. 

 

The season is not over and we are still in it, we can lose any given Sunday but the way we lost at Miami was unbearable to see, we cannot be that flat against Tampa.  

 

 

 

  

[Gregg]

10 minutes ago, quincy said:

If I could teleport myself into the voice, mind, body and soul of Terry Pegula during a Bills meeting this week for 15 seconds, I would say to Beane and McDermott, "if the New England Patriots are the AFC champions this year, you both shall be receiving your pink slip on Monday 26 January 2026, am I understood gentlemen?".  

 

If New England get to the Super Bowl this year it shows how flawed our processes have been, stalling and treading water at best. 

 

Arguments can be made that we already need a fresh start, for me if NE are AFC champions this year that seals the deal. How can year 10 of McDermott be feasible? 

 

Last place schedule, fluke season, whatever, even if they are 5-12 next year somehow, NE would have achieved more in ONE season than we have done in 8 years. 

 

It is disgusting to be even contemplating thoughts like this, yet here we are. 

 

The season is not over and we are still in it, we can lose any given Sunday but the way we lost at Miami was unbearable to see, we cannot be that flat against Tampa.  

 

 

 

  

 

I have mentioned this in another thread but if I were Terry Pegula I would look at teams who have been very successful with the draft since that is where the foundation of your team is built. The Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs are examples of this. Look at assistant GM's as well as their scouts. We all complain about Beane and McDermott, but the Bills have struck out too many times with their draft picks especially in the early rounds and the Bills scouts need to be held accountable. As for a new HC I would let the new GM make the call on that. But a GM and scouting staff with a history of being successful with the draft is what is needed here. You want a stronger team supporting Allen then this is the way to go about doing that. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Gregg

[zow2]

I saw some stat that through the first 10 games.. players in history to have 2,500+ passing yards, 70.0%+ completions, 250+ yds rushing, 5 or fewer INTs... is? 

Drake Maye.   That's it,  that's the list. He's god.

[2003Contenders]

No denying the Pats are good. Even when they struggled the last few years, their defense was still pretty good, and we typically were 1-1 against them. Now they have found their QB and have a very solid coach, who will typically have them prepared game-in and game-out.

 

Still, if the Bills had not played like trash against them, that would have been a Bills victory, which would have put the remainder of this season in a completely different light. Funny, all the talk heading into that game about how the Bills had not lost the turnover battle in like 2 years -- and then went on to do it in 3 of the next 5 games, all of which were losses. I guess a regression to the mean? Sadly, we've seen a lot of "regression to the mean" this year.

[PatsFanNH]

lol my Pats are good not great.. we have a competent HC again (BB lost his touch the last few years) and a very good OC in McDaniels.. a Young QB and O in general who IMO are playing way better than I expected. (8th on points averaging 26 points a game I think a TD better than last year). 
 

what I find funny the Bills have had 1 bad loss (Miami) but still rank 6th in O and 10th in D.. your Bills are fine just maybe a little inconsistent.. 

 

(O and D based on points per game for both)

[Success]

24 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

No denying the Pats are good. Even when they struggled the last few years, their defense was still pretty good, and we typically were 1-1 against them. Now they have found their QB and have a very solid coach, who will typically have them prepared game-in and game-out.

 

Still, if the Bills had not played like trash against them, that would have been a Bills victory, which would have put the remainder of this season in a completely different light. Funny, all the talk heading into that game about how the Bills had not lost the turnover battle in like 2 years -- and then went on to do it in 3 of the next 5 games, all of which were losses. I guess a regression to the mean? Sadly, we've seen a lot of "regression to the mean" this year.

 

The turnovers are troubling - but unlike past years where we have had more of them, it doesn't feel like sloppy play this year. It feels like players on offense trying to do too much because we're so anemic at times.  Josh's INT's and fumbles in particular just seem like he's forcing things when not much is there.

 

It's a bit of heroball, but I don't think he has much choice at times.

 

[Goin Breakdown]

6 hours ago, WNYFAN1 said:

Um ok. Saying another QB is outplaying Allen this year absolutely doesn't mean Allen is a "scrub". And just because he won the MVP last year doesn't mean he can't play poorly or even below his own standards. Weird that I'd even need to point that out.

Be it the scheme, lack of quality WRs or Allen or a combo.  Probably a combo. Allen is not looking like his typical self.  I'd imagine there are statistically a handful of QBs playing better right now and that's ok to say. In this ends up being a down year, so be it. All the greats have them. 

[Success]

36 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

lol my Pats are good not great.. we have a competent HC again (BB lost his touch the last few years) and a very good OC in McDaniels.. a Young QB and O in general who IMO are playing way better than I expected. (8th on points averaging 26 points a game I think a TD better than last year). 
 

what I find funny the Bills have had 1 bad loss (Miami) but still rank 6th in O and 10th in D.. your Bills are fine just maybe a little inconsistent.. 

 

(O and D based on points per game for both)

 

The Bills haven't only had 1 bad loss, or 1 bad game for that matter.  They were bad in the losses to the Pats and the Falcons, and they haven't exactly been good in many of their wins. That probably sounds somewhat spoiled, but it's been an unimpressive team this year.  I thought that 1st win against the Ravens would be some sort of springboard, but they have been largely mediocre since then.

 

They're not passing the eye test. I'm still holding out hope that they can get hot toward the playoffs and maybe make a run, especially if their health can improve, but this isn't as good a team as most of the teams while Allen has been QB.

 

[HamptonBillsfan]

Beane is totally responsible for the Pats having flipped the comparison of rosters in one offseason. Besides bringing in quality coordinators and a vastly superior HC, they added skill positions players that are producing at a high level. They are far better on the backend of their defense and their front seven is as good or better than ours. Josh and Cook are arguably the best tandem QB/RB in football. If we beat them in January that’s great but with their trajectory with the GM/HC advantage being huge, can we expect to keep our AFC hierarchy position much longer? Only distorted pompom carrying homers can avoid this reality.

[DapperCam]

Pats will drop the Jets game. Divisional matchup on Thursday Night Football with a young QB is a recipe for sicko football.

[Jeffbigalls]

22 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Pats will drop the Jets game. Divisional matchup on Thursday Night Football with a young QB is a recipe for sicko football.

Doubtful