Hate to say this … but the Pats are effing good

[NoHuddleKelly12]

2 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

It is extremely hilarious people writing off the Pats as meh and they can't possibly be as good as Buffalo. Vrable is 10x the coach McD is and he finally has a QB, this team is poised to run over Buffalo for years to come. 

I hate the Pats with a passion but most of those coaches the owner have won so they know what it takes to win whereas our coach, nah, isnt ever going to win anything. 

Not looking forward to being New Englands B word yet again, WTF! 

Bro, this is an outside possibility at best, imho. You’re entitled to your opinion, but let’s pump the brakes on this as an outcome until the Patsies have proven their staying power under this regime! Vrable in TN did less than McD has here, IIRC…

[PatsFanNH]

7 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Bro, this is an outside possibility at best, imho. You’re entitled to your opinion, but let’s pump the brakes on this as an outcome until the Patsies have proven their staying power under this regime! Vrable in TN did less than McD has here, IIRC…

In Vrabel defense he didn’t have Josh Allen as his QB and he made Tannahill look good for like 3 years(?) That’s Saints like 8 games and only thing I am 99% certain as a Pats fan is they should be a 10 or 11 win team THIS year.. and only if Maye stays healthy he goes down the dumpster fire is back.

[Avisan]

Vrabel is a good coach.

 

McDermott is a good coach.

 

The idea that Vrabel >>> McDermott is really bizarre, we kicked ourselves in the nads repeatedly vs. the Patriots and still only lost by three points.  People put Allen on an insane pedestal where the assumption is that he is always the best QB in a given game and it's only bad coaching that ever holds back his performance.  Allen is elite and thoroughly earned his MVP award, but he's absolutely mortal and doesn't have the non-physical mastery of the game that Brees/Manning/Brady did.  And vs. the Patriots he was not the best QB on the field that day.

 

And we lost by three.

 

This fanbase is embarrassingly fatalistic sometimes.  Sports has ups and downs.  If it didn't, it would be boring and nobody would pay attention.

[50yrpatsfan]

The odds are that NE is gonna win the division. They're solid, not falling apart, and the Bills have a much more difficult schedule. The rematch in Foxboro should be very interesting. Everyone knew that KC, Buffalo, and probably LA would be in the AFC hunt, but nobody saw Denver, Indy, or NE. It's a 6 team race. Probably Indy gets the 1-seed, they also have a favorable schedule.  

[Walking Tall]

4 minutes ago, 50yrpatsfan said:

The odds are that NE is gonna win the division. They're solid, not falling apart, and the Bills have a much more difficult schedule. The rematch in Foxboro should be very interesting. Everyone knew that KC, Buffalo, and probably LA would be in the AFC hunt, but nobody saw Denver, Indy, or NE. It's a 6 team race. Probably Indy gets the 1-seed, they also have a favorable schedule.  

Nobody saw Denver?

 

Stevie Wonder saw Denver.

[Gregg]

6 minutes ago, 50yrpatsfan said:

The odds are that NE is gonna win the division. They're solid, not falling apart, and the Bills have a much more difficult schedule. The rematch in Foxboro should be very interesting. Everyone knew that KC, Buffalo, and probably LA would be in the AFC hunt, but nobody saw Denver, Indy, or NE. It's a 6 team race. Probably Indy gets the 1-seed, they also have a favorable schedule.  

 

Once they get healthy then watch out for the Ravens. They will probably win the AFCN as the Steelers, Bengals, and Browns all look like s***.

[tigerthelion]

As of today, I'd have the Patriots as the favourites to win the division.  I'd love the Bills to go on a run to prove me wrong, but the Bills have some tough games ahead, starting this week.  I don't see the Patriots falling apart like some expect.  They will likely improve as the year goes on, and Maye gets more comfortable with more experience.  That's why they play the games, though.  The division certainly is not out of reach for Buffalo by any stretch. 

[Success]

3 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

He has led 1 fourth quarter comeback this year. Second yesterday he was hit hard by the Browns and rarely had a clean pocket.. as for receivers running open that’s just good OC play calling. 
 

Also the Bills game was only won by 3 and I hear all of you making excuses like “bad refs” those refs called it bad for both teams it wasn’t one sided.. then I hear if it wasn’t for turnovers .. ya and if it wasn’t for turnovers the Pats be 7-1..  (the Pats outplayed the Steelers but had 5 TO and still could have won the game!) it is what it is would I be shocked if the Bills win up here going away? No.. but I also wouldn’t be shocked if the Bills got smacked up here as well.. to much can change between now and then with injuries and trades.

 

It was incredibly one sided.

 

And fine - it's good OC play calling. But I think Maye is overhyped right now for what he's doing.

 

What 4th quarter comeback did he lead?

 

45 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

In Vrabel defense he didn’t have Josh Allen as his QB and he made Tannahill look good for like 3 years(?) That’s Saints like 8 games and only thing I am 99% certain as a Pats fan is they should be a 10 or 11 win team THIS year.. and only if Maye stays healthy he goes down the dumpster fire is back.

 

He had some pretty good OC's during the good Tannehill years.

 

[LarryMadman]

1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Bro, this is an outside possibility at best, imho. You’re entitled to your opinion, but let’s pump the brakes on this as an outcome until the Patsies have proven their staying power under this regime! Vrable in TN did less than McD has here, IIRC…

Thanks for making my point.

[billsfan89]

They remind me of the 2023 Fins, certainly a good team but I still think things have to shake out a little more before I say they are going to be a consistent contender for the division and in the AFC. They much like the Fins in 2023 have a soft schedule and are going to make it most certainly down to the wire for the division barring any injuries. The Bills schedule while not grueling is far from soft. KC this weekend is hard, the Bucs and Eagles games are more so on the difficult end, and the Steelers and Texans games are mid-level solid opponents. Of course there are some "softies" on the schedule like the Jets, Browns, and Fins. 

 

Right now the Bills just have to control what they can control. Beat KC and you are 6-2 with a road game against the Fins coming up. See how everything shakes out after that. You play the Pats again so there's some aspect of that that is in your control. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

The Pats have proven they can beat up bad teams and capitalize against good teams that have an off day. Yes, their coaching is better and credit to Maye, he's really good. They are playing with confidence right now.

 

But this is the NFL. Sooner or later they will drop a game or two that they are expected to win. Then the shine will be off them. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

I don't think NE is as good as we are overall. They've improved and our on a high right now. But, the fact they get the following schedule adv LV,TEN,NYG and we get KC,HOU,PHI make it very hard for us to win the division baring complete collapse. NE could end up as phoney division champ-it happens sometimes.

[Success]

2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

I don't think NE is as good as we are overall. They've improved and our on a high right now. But, the fact they get the following schedule adv LV,TEN,NYG and we get KC,HOU,PHI make it very hard for us to win the division baring complete collapse. NE could end up as phoney division champ-it happens sometimes.

 

Silver lining there would be that they get the 1st place schedule next year.

[Sweats]

AFCEast is going to be a dog fight this year and i'm okay with that........competition is healthy and creates a competitive spirit and that's something that's been missing in our division the past 5 years.

 

I don't even care if we're a WC this post season.......just get into the playoffs and let the chips fall where they may.

Us Bills fans act like teams have the audacity to compete with us and this, "how dare you" attitude, when in reality, teams aren't going to sit idly by and just let us do whatever we want.

 

Teams adapt and progress and if our FO doesn't have the same attitude and mindset, then we deserve whatever is coming our way.........right now, it's Indy, Denver, NE, etc. 

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

It was incredibly one sided.

 

And fine - it's good OC play calling. But I think Maye is overhyped right now for what he's doing.

 

What 4th quarter comeback did he lead?

 

 

He had some pretty good OC's during the good Tannehill years.

 

Believe it or not against your Bills. Yes they consider that a 4th quarter game winning drive/comeback..  Yes he did and he does now with McDaniels but IMO Maye > Tannahill but I am biased.

 

and right now Maye is being way way hyped and he has earned it he has 6 games now in a row with a 100 or higher QB Rating. He is playing out of his mind, and yes most of those games were against inferior D’s Yesterday he faced statistically one of the top 3 D in the league and dropped 30 on them.. what’s funny to me is Bills fans were all over your D when they technically played better than Cleveland’s top 3 D against Maye.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, LarryMadman said:

It is extremely hilarious people writing off the Pats as meh and they can't possibly be as good as Buffalo. Vrable is 10x the coach McD is and he finally has a QB, this team is poised to run over Buffalo for years to come. 

I hate the Pats with a passion but most of those coaches the owner have won so they know what it takes to win whereas our coach, nah, isnt ever going to win anything. 

Not looking forward to being New Englands B word yet again, WTF! 

I think it’s just so similar to the Miami year everyone panicked over prematurely or you’d have more people panicking like you are. Not saying you’re wrong or right necessarily it’s still very much a ‘we’ll see’ type thing.

 

vrabel might’ve figured it out after his first failed head coaching experience it’s def possible but that’s a we’ll see also.   He wasn’t some kind of victim in Tennessee…the guy took over a perennial 9 win team run by mariota, chose to go with tannehill  and eventually ran them straight into the ground.  Making all these excuses for him sounds just like the people that make excuses for mcd idk how we can say he’s a 10x better head coach at this point 

Edited 3 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Success]

23 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Believe it or not against your Bills. Yes they consider that a 4th quarter game winning drive/comeback..  Yes he did and he does now with McDaniels but IMO Maye > Tannahill but I am biased.

 

and right now Maye is being way way hyped and he has earned it he has 6 games now in a row with a 100 or higher QB Rating. He is playing out of his mind, and yes most of those games were against inferior D’s Yesterday he faced statistically one of the top 3 D in the league and dropped 30 on them.. what’s funny to me is Bills fans were all over your D when they technically played better than Cleveland’s top 3 D against Maye.

 

Not much a D can do when an offense can't stay on the field.  Pats had the ball for 13 more minutes yesterday.

 

I'm not saying what Maye is doing isn't impressive.  It is.  But both Pats fans and the media have taken it not just to a level above that - which would be understandable - but to absolutely ridiculous, hyperbolic heights.  It's both comical, and annoying.

 

I don't count a drive for a FG when the game was TIED as a comeback.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Success

[PatsFanNH]

35 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Not much a D can do when an offense can't stay on the field.  Pats had the ball for 13 more minutes yesterday.

 

I'm not saying what Maye is doing isn't impressive.  It is.  But both Pats fans and the media have taken it not just to a level above that - which would be understandable - but to absolutely ridiculous, hyperbolic heights.  It's both comical, and annoying.

 

I don't count a drive for a FG when the game was TIED as a comeback.

 

Thats fine! I have said before Allen is the superior QB right now.  I am just enjoying the fact that no one considers the Pats their “get right game” this year. Like I said I expect 10 to 11 wins this year now and that should get them into the playoffs once there anything can happen.. 

 

Oh and most Pats fans don’t know much before Kraft took over in the 90’s and Parcells took over and we got Bledsoe. These last 3 years were the first really horrible years the team has had in like 30 years so anyone under 40 had no reference so they overreact when they start doing well again.. thankfully most of our bandwagon fans went to the Chiefs 2 years ago 😂 what we have now are just spoiled fans 

[Livinginthepast]

16 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The one thing Maye has over Allen is a lethal deep ball. He was dropping buckets the entire day. 

Sadly I think from what I have seen so far with Allen being a bit off this year, Maye has been better in more than just deep passes than Allen. Nothing more outrageous than the Pats returning to prominence so fast. They really need another decade at least in NFL irrelevance. That would be karma.

[Billsfanatic8989]

Vrabel is a good coach. 10x better than McDermott? Not sure I'd go that far. McDermott has missed the postseason once in eight years. And has been to two AFC title games.