Can everyone just take a freakin breath?

[Low Positive]

The thing that pisses me off the most is that while all of WNY and Bills Mafia everywhere wallows in this doom cycle (expect "trade Josh Allen" threads to start before they take another snap), the players all get a week off to go to the beach. 

[tigerthelion]

1 hour ago, Cray51 said:

Would have been a bad hire.  daboll is not a good HC.

Gotta agree with that.  Daboll is unhinged.  Entertaining at times, but he has a screw loose for sure. 

[Blackbeard]

Changing over HC and potentially GM will have long term effects.  New coaches coming on board.  New philosophies.  New plays.  

This all takes time and doesn't happen overnight.  My thoughts are if Pegulas do decide to change course, how much more time will be lost until whatever new system is installed, correct players brought in, and creases ironed?  

 

Just going out an getting a new HC isn't a quickie fix.  Not to mention, who's even available??  Ron Rivera?

 

Mistake to change course imo.

[90sBills]

2 hours ago, ALLinALLEN said:

It's a week to week league, sure, but Carolina held Penix to 170 and 2 ints, Bijan to 72, London to 55, and the entire team to 0 points. The Bills come out and give a literal historical performance for the Falcons Offense. Not to mention the Panthers moved the ball at will vs them, and the very next week the Bills (and their supposed "everybody eats lol") offense cant muster more than 14 points.

 

It's transitive in that regard. They need to be better and superbowl teams/rosters don't give that performance last night. 

Let’s be honest. We all know the defensive deficiencies so the Falcons playmakers’ success, while disappointing, was not entirely surprising. The thing that is most disheartening is the offense’s production, or lack thereof. They seemed hopeless against that defense. They’re not going far in the playoffs with that kind of production. 

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

Changing over HC and potentially GM will have long term effects.  New coaches coming on board.  New philosophies.  New plays.  

This all takes time and doesn't happen overnight.  My thoughts are if Pegulas do decide to change course, how much more time will be lost until whatever new system is installed, correct players brought in, and creases ironed?  

 

Just going out an getting a new HC isn't a quickie fix.  Not to mention, who's even available??  Ron Rivera?

 

Mistake to change course imo.

Here is the current candidate list: https://www.si.com/nfl/titans-19-top-head-coach-candidates

[ScotSHO]

3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

The thing that pisses me off the most is that while all of WNY and Bills Mafia everywhere wallows in this doom cycle (expect "trade Josh Allen" threads to start before they take another snap), the players all get a week off to go to the beach. 

Now that you mention it, that 4th and 3 half-assed flip to Ray Davis does bring up trade me feelings...

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

This freakin place is so awful after a loss. Obviously 2 in a row makes it way worse.

 

We're making the playoffs. That's all i care about. I would love the #1 seed, but I reject any notion we need it. McDermott's playoff road record may be 0-whatever, but that leaves out the fact that other than 2019 (when we weren't this iteration of the Bills and Josh Allen wasn't yet Elite), every road playoff loss came against the Chiefs.

 

That proves somehow we're doomed on the road against other teams in the playoffs??? Totally disagree.

 

I also think this crowning of NE is really premature.

 

Guys, before the season started looking at our schedule to start the season I think we all would have been happy with 5-1 at the bye. We're one game off that pace with a mass of circumstances I think we underestimated.

 

Let's just take a step back for a moment and look at what really happened against Atlanta.

 

Our #1 receiving weapon who's become Josh’s most reliable target and finally seemed ready to break into that "Elite TE" category was out.

 

Josh Palmer got injured on the 2nd series and I really think that killed our offensive passing game. It was clear to me the Bills were about to integrate him more into the offense. Even the commentators brought up the conversations they had with Bills coaches last week about Palmer's deceptive speed.

 

Daquan Jones suffered a calf injury during warmups leaving us with 3 active DTs, one of them being Ed Oliver coming off injury. (Side note: Deonne Walker is going to be awesome!) 3 DT rotation against Bijan and Algier??? Yikes!

 

Bernard gets hurt mid game and exits. 

 

McGovern gets hurt and comes back clearly still hobbled.

 

 

Plus we have 2 important defensive reinforcements coming in right after the bye and hopefully Hairston can play soon after.

 

Say whatever about our remaining schedule but none of these teams are that scary. The Bengals will probably still be starting Flacco and their D sucks. The Eagles (as stated) look like the NFC version of us. 

 

Kansas City is, in reality, an inconsistent up and down team we're going to play at home and is the one team on our schedule this team doesn't look past. Yes they got players back, but they lost last week against the Jags with Worthy and it baffles my mind the way Rashee Rice is talked about as an Elite WR who will inevitably unlock their offense. The guy has played 20 NFL games and surpassed 100 yards a whopping 4 times. I'm not saying he won't be good and won't help, but the whole "uh oh!!! It's the high power Chiefs of 5 years ago!" is pretty ridiculous.

 

The Bucs and Steelers look good, but how much do we really think that lasts?

 

We aren't going undefeated after the bye, but who cares? January into (hopefully) February is all that matters. Just get there.

 

Take the bye, get healthy... take a breath. 

You’re right that there’s no point to being miserable. It solves nothing. I want to know why and then I want to know the potential solutions. 
 

There ARE things the Bills can do to get better right now. Firing Babich would be number 1. They showed they will can crappy coordinators (say that 3x) w/ Dorsey if necessary. Historically, new coaches usually bring a new energy & success. I’m all for the scapegoat method if it leads to change. 
 

The second thing I want is for Beane to really see what’s out there on the trade market as far as a boundary stretching WR. Jerry Jeudy is an option. AJ Brown is another. Pair them with a healthy Kincaid and Shakir, you all the sudden have a respectable cast of receivers. 
 

I do agree with you about the injuries. I’ve never seen the Bills lose so many important players so quickly. I mean nobody is possibly prepared for something like that. You can point to strength & conditioning and training or whatever, but these are grown men and professionals. They know how to take care of their bodies because that’s literally what gets them paid. I feel like McDermott is being unfairly criticized for something that is largely out of his control. A lot of People including myself were overlooking this. 

[stinky finger]

2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I'm genuinely curious about this.... 

 

So you're honestly saying this year's team is less talented than last year's team? 

 

I feel like if you take a minute and do a position by position comparison to our players last year you would rescind that statement.

Truth is, neither years roster is SB worthy. 

[90sBills]

54 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Saddest part is we have no rebuttal.

Why would there be a need rebut such an insane proclamation. Winning regular season games is considered a dynasty now?

43 minutes ago, chongli said:

End of story.

They’ve also lost in the playoffs every year since 2019. End of that story too?

[Low Positive]

9 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Why would there be a need rebut such an insane proclamation. Winning regular season games is considered a dynasty now?

They’ve also lost in the playoffs every year since 2019. End of that story too?

If I was in a better mood about all of this, I would argue that you cannot win a playoff game in September/October. 

 

As to your first point, everyone in New England thinks that dynastic football teams are their birthright. Everyone, from credentialed media right down to these two Marine Biologists from Malden, Mass. 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Low Positive

[Aussie Joe]

4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

Bernard gets hurt mid game and exits. 

 

 

This actually seemed to improve the D yesterday ..,🤔

[90sBills]

5 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

If I was in a better mood about all of this, I would argue that you cannot win a playoff game in September/October. 

 

As to your first point, everyone in New England thinks that dynastic football teams are their birthright. Everyone, from credentialed media right down to these two Marine Biologists from Malden, Mass. 

 

I’m glad you don’t want to argue as I’m too depressed to do that now. It’s better we laugh at those NE crazies. 

[dpberr]

3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We don't have the dbs to play man press. Trust me, I wish we did. But McD was obsessed with his zone scheme. We'd have to replace most of our dbs.

Can't we get just one?  😀  I'd put Benford on the slower of the two.  

 

I don't need a star.  Need a decent, perhaps good one that can stay on the field.  I'll take guys with potential.  I'll try Ingram, Kimber, etc.