Plausible X/#1 receiver trade candidates — are there any?

[MikePJ76]

9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They better get moving!! Allbright is saying Miami wants a 3rd for Waddle. I’d offer: a 2nd, a depth OL (Alec Anderson) and a 2027 5th. I’d then turn around and trade Coleman and a 3rd for Olave. 
 

The idea is to have a talented group.  Removing Coleman does not make sense here.  What is killing them is having medium level talent that is always battling injuries.  

 

The most important element the bills need right now at wr, corner and linebacker is the most basic thing ever, availability.  The Bills have way to many fragile players who are always hurt.

 

If they make a trade for a WR I will assume they cut a guy like shavers and just add him to the practice squad.  If they were to trade for shaheed he helps them by allowing them to cut codrington and the extra player they have available on the gameday roster can play the special teams snaps shavers did.  

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, boyst said:

i am afraid of losing Anderson right now because we just had a few dings on the OL. but if we can make a turd shine it's on OL.

 

i think everyone is holding off because everyone is trying to get a deal done and people are undercutting offers. New England is probably willing to be more aggressive and cause a lot of noise. one a domino starts to fall i think the rest fall for who's going to make a move and i think that whole issue is stopping everyone in their tracks.

Also, I think the Saints have to lose in Chicago on Sunday to be fully pushed into the sellers camp. Remember, the deadline isn’t actually for 2.5 weeks.

[racketmaster]

2 hours ago, Andrew Son said:

LOL, the guy who went to the hospital with an injury after last weeks game?

Moore is still expected to play this week and he has missed just 2 games in 7+ seasons in the NFL. I would say he is much more durable than Olave who missed 9 games just last year with the concussions. He has also had previous concussions and ankle injuries that have caused him to miss games in previous seasons. The concussions make me nervous because the more a player has the longer the recovery time seems to be and the Bills have had poor luck in recent seasons with guys staying healthy as is. 

Edited 4 hours ago by racketmaster

[MikePJ76]

Jeremy and Joe on Waddle trade rumors.

 

 

[Gregg]

Just now, MikePJ76 said:

Jeremy and Joe on Waddle trade rumors.

 

 

 

Even if Miami did trade him, I doubt they trade him to a divisional rival.

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

Even if Miami did trade him, I doubt they trade him to a divisional rival.

If he were truly available most of the league is going to check in on the cost.  

 

I have read all week, the giants, pats, steelers and many others are really looking to add a player.  

 

 

[billsfan89]

2 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Olave is the move. 
Stress the defense deep so the underneath stuff isn’t so congested. That allows Dalton and Palmer and Shakir to thrive. 
This is primarily a running team by the way I’m not sure many of us have accepted that yet. But that only works with a certain game script.

 

Running works a lot less when teams don't respect the WR's you have on the boundary. 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

We’ve legitimately seen people argue on here that “everybody eats” is a better idea. “Yeah but if you have a guy that demands targets it takes away from other people.” Imagine being like, “naw, forget about adding (any name mentioned) what is that going to do to Tyrell Shavers targets?!?” 🤣🤣 You can find people making that argument all over the internet. Are they completely brainwashed or really, really stupid? There is no alternative. Imagine being like, “but if we have a good receiver that will mean less balls will be thrown to the bad receivers.” 🤣

 

I would take it a step further, how many times does an "everybody eats" concept actually work in the NFL when you have a great QB and team with Super Bowl aspirations?  Last night just reminded all of us that a great QB requires a couple of great skill players to have the type of O that wins SB's.  

 

The Bills SB years featured a HOF QB and 2 HOF skill players in Thomas & Reed and a 3rd in Loften for a couple of seasons.  

 

Like a lot of people I fell for the "everybody eats" concept because I very badly wanted it to be true.  After all looking at the Bills collection of skill players in the preseason it was the ONLY option available.  But reality has bit me in the butt and I can't ignore the fact that an "everybody eats" offense isn't likely to be a SB winning offense. 

 

So what to do?  Either someone jumps up and becomes consistently elite AND stays healthy - Cook, Kincaid & Shakir - are our best hopes or the Bills make a big time trade.

 

 

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

18 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

The idea is to have a talented group.  Removing Coleman does not make sense here.  What is killing them is having medium level talent that is always battling injuries.  

 

The most important element the bills need right now at wr, corner and linebacker is the most basic thing ever, availability.  The Bills have way to many fragile players who are always hurt.

 

If they make a trade for a WR I will assume they cut a guy like shavers and just add him to the practice squad.  If they were to trade for shaheed he helps them by allowing them to cut codrington and the extra player they have available on the gameday roster can play the special teams snaps shavers did.  

Lol, I don’t think Coleman is any good. If the Bills acquired Olave AND Waddle (obviously not happening) then Coleman would be their 5th WR. Palmer is better IMO. He may appeal to New Orleans and his skill set is duplicated by Shakir in many ways. 

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, I don’t think Coleman is any good. If the Bills acquired Olave AND Waddle (obviously not happening) then Coleman would be their 5th WR. Palmer is better IMO. He may appeal to New Orleans and his skill set is duplicated by Shakir in many ways. 

I do think Coleman could be a capable slot receiver given his game and physical skill set. He is not a good boundary receiver, obviously, but he's not without value.

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I would take it a step further, how many times does an "everybody eats" concept actually work in the NFL when you have a great QB and team with Super Bowl aspirations?  Last night just reminded all of us that a great QB requires a couple of great skill players to have the type of O that wins SB's.  

 

The Bills SB years featured a HOF QB and 2 HOF skill players in Thomas & Reed and a 3rd in Loften for a couple of seasons.  

 

Like a lot of people I fell for the "everybody eats" concept because I very badly wanted it to be true.  After all looking at the Bills collection of skill players in the preseason it was the ONLY option available.  But reality has bit me in the butt and I can't ignore the fact that an "everybody eats" offense isn't likely to be a SB winning offense. 

 

So what to do?  Either someone jumps up and becomes consistently elite AND stays healthy - Cook, Kincaid & Shakir - are our best hopes or the Bills make a big time trade.

 

 

 

 

 

Kincaid if he can stay healthy looks like he is developing into a solid player. Shakir is a good receiver who is more suited to be a #3 or #2 at best WR. He isn't and shouldn't be a #1 WR. The only stars on offense right now from the skill positions are Allen and Cook. That's it. I really hope Beane makes a trade to improve at WR because what they have now isn't getting it done.

[Blackbeard]

Cmon Beane!

 

Do something!!     

 

I want Christmas in October!!!!

[Dunkirk Donski]

Olave or bust.  

[TheBeaneBandit]

This front office pride is gonna cost this team, again.

[dave mcbride]

21 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Jeremy and Joe on Waddle trade rumors.

 

 

This is a very good discussion. I left it thinking it's not implausible. The price would be high, but he's a sure thing and REALLY good at a position the Bills are bad at.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Would not mind a CB at the deadline. Al things equal, I’d almost prefer that move. 
 

If you could get Douglas or Cooper, each as he was when we traded for him, then which would you take?

[BuffaloBillyG]

37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Lol, I don’t think Coleman is any good. If the Bills acquired Olave AND Waddle (obviously not happening) then Coleman would be their 5th WR. Palmer is better IMO. He may appeal to New Orleans and his skill set is duplicated by Shakir in many ways. 

My biggest issue with Coleman isn't that he isn't good. It's that he isn't consistent. He's had some good games and produced. He shows that he's capable. But, I believe he has a very poor work ethic and doesn't have that inner push to want to work to be great. 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

My biggest issue with Coleman isn't that he isn't good. It's that he isn't consistent. He's had some good games and produced. He shows that he's capable. But, I believe he has a very poor work ethic and doesn't have that inner push to want to work to be great. 

Fair and said better. You absolutely cannot count on him. He flashes but he disappears a lot more often. We don’t need that. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Riq Woolen and  Olave/Shaheed/Meyers  would certainly help

 

A change of scenery could possibly turn Woolen into a top tier CB again 

That said, I don't expect Beane to acquire difference makers 

 

 

I'd be willing to offer a 1st +  for Waddle
 

He's put up impressive numbers without Tyreek and with Allen at QB....he could really ascend as a player IMO

 

He has everything we need really.  Separation, routes, long speed.....not really a diva....26

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Warriorspikes51

[MikePJ76]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Riq Woolen and  Olave/Shaheed/Meyers  would certainly help

 

A change of scenery could possibly turn Woolen into a top tier CB again 

That said, I don't expect Beane to acquire difference makers 

Woolen is currently hurt.