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[LABILLBACKER]

17 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

i want Rapp gone.  he doesnt tackle.  he just throws his body around like an unguided missile hitting whomever is in a 4 foot radius,  friend or foe.  im done with him.

Both our safeties are terrible.  How does Bishop miss that tackle on the 50?  

[billsfan_34]

8 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

i watched one of his routes they actually showed.   he ran vertical and then angled into the receiver...had he angled to the center of the field  he would have 

been wide open...     i think a lot of the routes make no sense.  all the little intricasies and nuances of route running and planning are not being introduced 

during week and it shows on the field

Yep, not only poor route running but his body control is subpar and cannot break tackles to save his life. Also, when your 4.6 speed you have to have football speed. He does not. See Jerry Rice for an example of football speed.

[appoo]

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

Both our safeties are terrible.  How does Bishop miss that tackle on the 50?  

The Bijan TD run? Because it’s Bijan

[Comebackkid]

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

He's not wrong.   

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

It feels different because we have a legit division threat now. Miami was paper tigers that never gave you a real reason to worry about them. New England is legit. They have the coach and they have the QB. In years past these slumps just affected our seeding which was bad enough. Now it is genuinely possible and I might even say likely that zero playoff games will be played at Highmark Stadium in its final season

Hey maybe that will be the thing that pisses Pegula off enough to make the necessary change.

 

And that's my answer to this thread - sure go ahead and fire the DC, make a big trade for a WR, whatever. The real change has to happen in January or else Josh Allen will never win a Super Bowl.

I'm still not convinced about the Pats as they could have lost to NO this past Sunday.  While it's easy to dismiss the Dolphins in hind site at the time they looked formidable with multiple game leads on the bills late in the season.  

 

But the talent erosion on the Bills is real.  With the exception of QB, O line and perhaps at TE & RB the Bills are worse then previous years at every other position groups.  D line, LB and secondary are all much worse.  Ditto for the WR group and on special teams.  

[Comebackkid]

I will say...the D played their hearts out in the 2nd half.    The offense did them zero favors 

[Jerome007]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

With the exception of QB, O line and perhaps at TE & RB the Bills are worse then previous years at every other position groups.  D line, LB and secondary are all much worse.  Ditto for the WR group and on special teams.

DLine is better. And you listed QB, OLine, TE, RB. That's a pretty good list. But yeah, WR, LB and secondary... ouch. ALL teams have weaknesses. The  thing is, can the coaching staff overcome them? Can some average roster spots not be a liability? Jury is not completely set yet IMO. And now two DLinemen come back from suspension. 

[somnus00]

Hand the defense the Ryan Nielsen. I've been anti-Brady since last season. Putting up 30 a game was on Josh being superman, and the defense leading the league in turn overs. 

[Comebackkid]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I'm still not convinced about the Pats as they could have lost to NO this past Sunday.  While it's easy to dismiss the Dolphins in hind site at the time they looked formidable with multiple game leads on the bills late in the season.  

 

But the talent erosion on the Bills is real.  With the exception of QB, O line and perhaps at TE & RB the Bills are worse then previous years at every other position groups.  D line, LB and secondary are all much worse.  Ditto for the WR group and on special teams.  

Thats exactly whats happening and well put.   You can only bleed talent for so long and still succeed.  The Bills are reaching the critical zone.

There is a chance the D can pull things together enough to hold on....(IF)   the offense could pull its own weight but i have less faith in that.

[colin]

Ok, that game was disgusting 

 

Babich being fired and replaced by literally anyone else in the building is an improvement, but the O has been worse than the d the last few weeks.  

 

That is just shocking, the d is a mash unit and don't my bad based on mistakes and silly penalties and things like that.  Every single aspect of the o is getting worse.  No continuity, no identity, on penalties, turnovers, blocking and Allen sucks too 

 

The play of the o and particularly the play calling has been a level below and it's gotten worse for consecutive weeks.  I think mad is forcing the o to ball control and what not, but the three wr set plays are laughable.  The team does not buy into what the coaches are calling 

[HappyDays]

11 minutes ago, LEBills said:

I would be surprised if Beane will give up significant picks for talented players in case this year really bottoms out.

 

My biggest concern is that Beane has the luxury of feeling this way because Pegula is putting no pressure on them. If we had strong ownership McDermott and Beane would be sweating bullets right now and making whatever moves they could to save the season. But I've never gotten the sense that they feel any kind of pressure.

[Hawaii50]

46 minutes ago, Walking Tall said:

The Bills actually played better defense when the pint sized Bernard left the game. 

Agree, small LB are not cutting it with increased emphasis on running the ball . 

[LEBills]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

My biggest concern is that Beane has the luxury of feeling this way because Pegula is putting no pressure on them. If we had strong ownership McDermott and Beane would be sweating bullets right now and making whatever moves they could to save the season. But I've never gotten the sense that they feel any kind of pressure.

No, they feel very comfortable. When Beane went on WGR and cursed out the hosts (and many on here applauded it) I knew he felt he had the rope to do that. It will take multiple years of missing the playoffs for a change to be made and that is hard to do when Josh Allen is so great. We will fire Babich but Beane and McDermott are here for awhile unfortunately.

[LABILLBACKER]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

What 3 LB’s are we playing?  Milano and Bernard are always hurt, which is a theme with our back 7.  

Everyone on this defense is always hurt.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

It will be the most buffalo thing ever if McDermott and beane get let go while kevyn Adams continues to be employed haha

 

(Not a reason to keep mcbeane, just an observation. One that i could see happening) 

[CincyBillsFan]

8 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

Thats exactly whats happening and well put.   You can only bleed talent for so long and still succeed.  The Bills are reaching the critical zone.

There is a chance the D can pull things together enough to hold on....(IF)   the offense could pull its own weight but i have less faith in that.

I think the offense and Allen would be much more effective if they had faith that the D could hold up for a game.  From the play calling to Allen forcing throws you can see the Bills O sort of panic trying to match TD's with teams that are obliterating our defense.  The Bills were lucky to not be down 28 or even 31 - 7 at half.  They gave up 335 yards for crying out loud!

 

It would be one thing if the Bills truly had a potent O but they don't.  Allen's play and a strong O line and Cook carrying the rock make us think we can get into a scoring track meet with an opponent but with that WR group and Kincaid injured they aren't built for it.

 

 

20 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Both our safeties are terrible.  How does Bishop miss that tackle on the 50?  

An even better question is how does their stud RB get from the 19 to the 50 untouched?

 

 

[PauleeeWalnuts]

No one is getting fired, it will be more of the same “trust the process” crap that we’ve been hearing for 8 years now. We have to be better, it starts with me, complimentary football, I have to check the tape blah blah blah blah. Beane will make a minor move at the deadline and what you see is what you get for the rest of the season.  

[appoo]

22 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

I will say...the D played their hearts out in the 2nd half.    The offense did them zero favors 

Like even if White didn't do whatever it was he was doing on that 3rd down, does anyone here think the Bills are able to score?

19 minutes ago, Hawaii50 said:

Agree, small LB are not cutting it with increased emphasis on running the ball . 

I'll be honest, I miss the Predator

[LABILLBACKER]

8 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I think the offense and Allen would be much more effective if they had faith that the D could hold up for a game.  From the play calling to Allen forcing throws you can see the Bills O sort of panic trying to match TD's with teams that are obliterating our defense.  The Bills were lucky to not be down 28 or even 31 - 7 at half.  They gave up 335 yards for crying out loud!

 

It would be one thing if the Bills truly had a potent O but they don't.  Allen's play and a strong O line and Cook carrying the rock make us think we can get into a scoring track meet with an opponent but with that WR group and Kincaid injured they aren't built for it.

 

 

299 yards to Robinson / London in 1 half.  Hilarious 🤣

[Comebackkid]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I think the offense and Allen would be much more effective if they had faith that the D could hold up for a game.  From the play calling to Allen forcing throws you can see the Bills O sort of panic trying to match TD's with teams that are obliterating our defense.  The Bills were lucky to not be down 28 or even 31 - 7 at half.  They gave up 335 yards for crying out loud!

 

It would be one thing if the Bills truly had a potent O but they don't.  Allen's play and a strong O line and Cook carrying the rock make us think we can get into a scoring track meet with an opponent but with that WR group and Kincaid injured they aren't built for it.

 

 

An even better question is how does their stud RB get from the 19 to the 50 untouched?

 

 

I think they figured they could come out and force the ball down everyones throat, while keeping the other teams offense off the field.   

that was the identity they wanted..   you can see they have no idea how to stretch the field right now...  (makes me think thats not where the focus 

is at practice)   but...teams have got wise and adapted.   

Had The D been called in the first half like it was in the second it might have been a different game but still..... the D stepped up and did  its job and

the O had plenty of chances....they had 1 1/2 qtrs to score 10 points. they made some of the dumbest decsions at the most important times and it

 cost them the game.  thats not on the D.   

12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Everyone on this defense is always hurt.

its mind boggling.  it also starts with the best players and their arent that many of them to begin with.

4 minutes ago, appoo said:

Like even if White didn't do whatever it was he was doing on that 3rd down, does anyone here think the Bills are able to score?

I'll be honest, I miss the Predator

At least he stayed healthy.....seems like he was playing really good this year..but man....   like so many of our draft pics, takes years to develop