Go on record... Fire McDermott?

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

- I’d pull play calling from Babich today or fire him altogether.

- I would fire Adam Henry as well.

- I’d sratch Keon next game. I would dress Gabe in his place (if he’s healthy).

- I’d release Jordan Phillips from the PS. I don’t care that he’s a vet that knows the system and loves it here. I’d make an example of him for jumping offside.

- I’d be tempted to cut Tre too but that may be a bridge too far. I probably wouldn’t do this but would think about it.
- I’d open Hairston’s practice window and start him as soon as possible. Take your lumps and you might not be any worse. 
- I would trade for AT LEAST 1 WR this week to play bs. Carolina. Olave would be my first choice.

 

None of these moves, in a vacuum makes you a contender but they all move you closer to it. It also sends a message to the team that how they’ve performed, regardless of the results of the games, hasn’t been good enough. 

I’d be on board with every move there, especially Hairston taking his lumps.

[Kirby Jackson]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’d be on board with every move there, especially Hairston taking his lumps.

None of them feel crazy. Obviously I’ve made my opinions known on Beane and McDermott but that’s not happening now. Make these types of moves and you might be able to get the train back on the tracks. A message needs to be sent. They’ve been sleepwalking for pretty much the whole season. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Kirby Jackson

[jaybills]

19 hours ago, Steve Billieve said:

I'm sure you are all thinking super clearly right now. This is definitely the moment to have this poll.

Exactly. Lol. This happens every year. We'll be sitting at 10-3 later in the year praising him. 

[Scott7975]

19 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said:

I've been saying yes for years, so there's no real question what I think. I've started basically this same poll 3 times, but let's get a snapshot of what we think right now...

 

It's a simple question: has the final straw broken the Buffalo's back?

 

Go on record!

 

Yes. I still think McD is a really good coach but I am over it. He wont go out and hire real coordinators, just hires lackeys from within. Whatever they are doing is just not working. Beane has to go with him because he has been mediocre and gets Josh no help. Beane built a decent line but there are like 2-3 difference makers on the entire team, 1 star, and a bunch of role players. This team is undisciplined in penalty's, holding gaps, and tackling. The guy preaches fundamentals but then those fundamentals don't show in games.

 

McD went from one of the more aggressive coaches last year to coaching scared this year, overcompensating for losing some fourth downs against KC. Just yesterday down two scores facing 4th and 3 at mid field he elected to punt. That is 100% the wrong call. Late game mid field and down a score 4th and 5 he again elected to punt. Thats also 100% the wrong decision.

 

This team lacks talent and the talent we have McD is not maximizing. I expect they turn it around after the bye and probably win the division but yet again miss out on the 1 seed. They might even make the AFC champ game but this is not a super bowl caliber team. Its time to stop wasting Josh Allens career. We should have at least 2 super bowl appearances by now. I have always blamed 13 seconds on him but gave it a pass thinking that he would get us over the hump. He isn't getting us over the hump. I like McD and again think he is one of the better coaches in the league but I want to win a super bowl and he aint it.

Edited 6 hours ago by Scott7975

[mjt328]

Completely done with this front office and coaching staff.  Fire them both tomorrow, and get an early start on the rebuild.

 

We only have one window with Josh Allen at Quarterback.  

Once he's no longer playing at an MVP level, we will never get that time back.  It may already be too late.

 

Beane/McDermott have had enough time and chances to get this right.  Longer than most GM/HC combinations.  We've gotten excuse after excuse on why they can't get it done.  They just need a closer at Edge Rusher.  The Damar Hamlin situation was too emotionally draining.  It's just not fair that Patrick Mahomes is in our conference.  They just need injuries to not exist.  It's just bad luck and we are really close.

 

The truth is, our GM has assembled a garbage roster around the QB.  Now our defense is also full of holes.  McDermott is an expert at an outdated defensive scheme, and has nothing else up his sleeve.

 

 

[harmonkillebrew]

19 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I would’ve fired him last year and signed Ben Johnson. This was a no brainer 

 

I answered no, given how much he's built up this team. But if you have the chance to add an up and coming offensive mind, I would do it.  

[3rdand12]

He has built a culture , that is for sure. Considering how this Team was run for a very long time.

 If they do not compete for the SB ? Hard changes should be made.

 

I cannot commit either way till seasons end. I feel that is short sighted.

 Hard tweaks surely means Babich should be on the hottest seat and McD needs to let someone else bring in their Defense to run

20 hours ago, ***** said:

I think it was Dorian Williams who blew his assignment.

what i read as well

20 hours ago, ***** said:

I think it was Dorian Williams who blew his assignment.

what i read as well

20 hours ago, ***** said:

I think it was Dorian Williams who blew his assignment.

what i read as well

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

- I’d pull play calling from Babich today or fire him altogether.

- I would fire Adam Henry as well.

- I’d sratch Keon next game. I would dress Gabe in his place (if he’s healthy).

- I’d release Jordan Phillips from the PS. I don’t care that he’s a vet that knows the system and loves it here. I’d make an example of him for jumping offside.

- I’d be tempted to cut Tre too but that may be a bridge too far. I probably wouldn’t do this but would think about it.
- I’d open Hairston’s practice window and start him as soon as possible. Take your lumps and you might not be any worse. 
- I would trade for AT LEAST 1 WR this week to play vs. Carolina. Olave would be my first choice.

 

None of these moves, in a vacuum makes you a contender but they all move you closer to it. It also sends a message to the team that how they’ve performed, regardless of the results of the games, hasn’t been good enough. 

 

I like all this and most of it is doable, even if it doesnt happen.

 

The one thing I cant see happening is bringing in ANY additional players given our cap situation, let alone trading for one. How do we make that Olave trade work at all?

 

 

56 minutes ago, jaybills said:

Exactly. Lol. This happens every year. We'll be sitting at 10-3 later in the year praising him. 

 

And then we'll have an early playoff exit and be wondering what these chumps are doing. Again.

 

10-3 in the regular season with Josh is meaningless at this point. Super Bowl or bust.

[Billzgobowlin]

8 hours ago, TwistofFate said:

It's not fouled logic. 

 

You are the one with fouled logic. Saying because a guy had 150 yards that somehow implies he wasn't picking us apart is ridiculous. That's the most illogical statement there can be. 

 

The point of bring up the running numbers is to show you they didn't need to do it all through the air. These Qbs destroyed us every time they had to. 

I believe you now lol.  Yes 150 yards all game I consider keeping a QB contained.  If we could do that every week sign me up.  Feelings don't have anything to do with facts and you are letting your feelings dictate.  400 yards, I'll even give you potentially 300 yards would be considered picking us apart but come on 150 yards in a game. 

8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I like all this and most of it is doable, even if it doesnt happen.

 

The one thing I cant see happening is bringing in ANY additional players given our cap situation, let alone trading for one. How do we make that Olave trade work at all?

 

 

 

And then we'll have an early playoff exit and be wondering what these chumps are doing. Again.

 

10-3 in the regular season with Josh is meaningless at this point. Super Bowl or bust.

I don't disagree other than I'm not sure Babich is the issue on defense.  I haven't seen anything better on defense since before McDerm.  My take is we are too small and starters are getting injured too much plus zero difference maker DBs anymore

[Kirby Jackson]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I like all this and most of it is doable, even if it doesnt happen.

 

The one thing I cant see happening is bringing in ANY additional players given our cap situation, let alone trading for one. How do we make that Olave trade work at all?

 

Candidly, I haven’t dug in on the numbers. I just remember, anecdotally that his contract was doable comparatively. I’m sure that there would need to be some levers pulled but don’t think it was anything crazy (like it would have been for Parsons for example). 

[LARD BUM]

I wanted McMeathead fired waaay back in 2017 after witnessing the dumbest coaching decision I have ever seen in my life during the Snow Bowl game. He elected to punt on 4th and 1 from the Colts 41 yard line with 4:13 left in overtime. He essentially was playing for a tie in a game the Bills HAD to win to stay in contention for a playoff spot  after 17 years of not making the playoffs. Also in a game where it had been extraordinarily difficult for either offense to move the ball due to the weather. He got bailed out by a miraculous offensive drive and that Shady McCoy TD run to win it, but I still maintain it was an absolutely moronic decision to punt in that spot.

 

Despite his admirable regular season record, he is fundamentally dumb. You can not fix dumb.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by LARD BUM

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

20 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

you don't win or lose super bowls on october 13th.

Yes, but you can lose home field advantage by losing on October 13th, and that is very likely to cause you to not make the super bowl 

[bubba2018]

Has anyone ever counted the amount of claps that McClappy does a game?

[Nihilarian]

I do agree that this team needs a severe kick in the ass player-wise. McD and this coaching staff drill into them every practice on what to do and what not to do, like contain their gap integrity, and they simply don't. Is it because they are so worried about other players doing their job, or just a lack of discipline? 

 

I do know that if this continues that McD will take control of the defense, and that should be all the change they need, as he has shown that he can still get it done. In the 2023 season, he called the defensive plays and still managed a top-10 defense despite all the injuries that season. 

 

The offense, however, perhaps does need a breath of fresh air with someone like Chris Olave. But that would cost an arm and both legs to obtain him. Joe Brady still screwed the pooch with his playcalling against many teams this year in his failure to utilize Jame Cook in the passing game. Brady didn't even have him see the field for most of the 4th quarter of that Falcons game. 

 

I'm not certain as to what to do about all the penalties. Perhaps make the said player who causes that penalty to wear a toilet seat around his neck for the week before the next game. That outta shame them. 

[MikePJ76]

12 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Yes, but you can lose home field advantage by losing on October 13th, and that is very likely to cause you to not make the super bowl 

yea i can't argue that.  you cant expect a team to win 15 or more games a year.  its just an absurd expectation.

[T.E.]

17 minutes ago, LARD BUM said:

I wanted McMeathead fired waaay back in 2017 after witnessing the dumbest coaching decision I have ever seen in my life during the Snow Bowl game. He elected to punt on 4th and 1 from the Colts 41 yard line with 4:13 left in overtime. He essentially was playing for a tie in a game the Bills HAD to win stay in contention for a playoff spot  after 17 years of not making the playoffs.

 

I vividly remember that call, and the fact that they ultimately won never excused it. He was playing not to lose, like always.

 

I still maintain that he knowingly and willingly conceded a long FG attempt in the 13 Seconds game to avoid giving up a possible big TD pass.

[DrDawkinstein]

47 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

I don't disagree other than I'm not sure Babich is the issue on defense.  I haven't seen anything better on defense since before McDerm.  My take is we are too small and starters are getting injured too much plus zero difference maker DBs anymore

 

I dont think it will make much of a change on Defense either. To me, it's more an important first step in firing McDermott. Hand him the keys to the defense and tell him we better see it improve. If it still sucks at the end of the year/in the playoffs, then we have all the evidence we need that McD has to go too.

[Steptide]

If the hate is this bad towards McDermott in week 6, I can only imagine if the bills lose in the playoffs again this year 😬

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Steptide said:

If the hate is this bad towards McDermott in week 6, I can only imagine if the bills lose in the playoffs again this year 😬

 

I'll be posting the GoFundMe for the billboard immediately after that playoff loss.

[T.E.]

1 minute ago, Steptide said:

If the hate is this bad towards McDermott in week 6, I can only imagine if the bills lose in the playoffs again this year 😬

That's assuming they make the playoffs.