Why keep bringing certain guys back?

[Kirby Jackson]

44 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Perrennial playoff team and last year's AFC Championship game...

 

Should we start bringing in players who cant stick with even lesser teams?

 

Chiefs bring/brought back a bunch of their guys over and over too.

 

Most of our lower level guys go on to start on other teams (Dodson comes to mind immediately).

 

 

 

Yeah, Im pretty cranky from Sunday, but for the first time in a long time I cant agree with @Kirby Jackson's take here.

 

Guys like Jordan Phillips straight up told the league "I'm only coming back if the Bills call" and he's willing to come back cheap.

 

This isnt a bad thing.

 

 

Fair enough. I think that there’s truth there and probably with Tre too. I guess my point is, even if he will “only come back for the Bills” -pass. He’s just not good enough anymore. I’d rather take a chance on someone else. 

[ngbills]

All this PS talk. The issue is we need more than PS players right now. We need starters and actual contributors. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said:

They know the system and are better options than another random guy off the street in a break glass in case of emergency situation. They also know the guys from a character and chemistry standpoint, and probably feel like they can impart some of that "Bills culture" on the younger guys on the 53.

 

Truthfully, how often does any team's practice squad hold some impactful player or diamond in the rough?

What is the "Bills Culture" anyways?  I think its Josh Allen doing Josh Allen things with some help from James Cook.  But this supposed process and culture would be nothing without #17.  He is our "culture".  

 

McDermott got the Bills out of playoff hell in 2017.  Since then its been all #17.  

[Johnnycage46]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

You guys are just angsty because the Bills lost a game that has dug up a lot of old feelings of helplessness. This loss feels like the end of an era if you lean into the BBFS. But you're lighting torches and busting out the pitchforks over end of the roster moves. I'm not saying that it's wrong to question these moves, but the level of anger is a bit too high for minimal roster moves. Wanna get mad at something? The narrative that gets pushed around here that is actually true is that our WRs cannot separate. It's really obvious from the all-22. If you want to be mad about something, be mad about that. Not about a backup safety and a PS LB.  

 

FWIW, I think Milano will be put in IR very soon. That's why this was done. I would have rather had Josey Jewell too, but they did what they did. Now, go get a WR who can get open. 

 

True, the defense is actually awesome. We get consistent pass rush, outstanding linebacker play, tight coverage, have elite tackling, and are well coached.

[ngbills]

BAL bring in Gardner-Johnson and Gilman

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

57 minutes ago, NoName said:

The one year McD did the draft without Beane, didn’t he get Tre in first and Dawkins in 2nd?   
 

 

This is true, it was also Whaley's board and or scouting staff too right?

 

Maybe beane is the problem?

 

We also got Milano  in that class as well.

Edited 1 hour ago by AlBUNDY4TDS
Taron was drafted the year after.

[ColoradoBills]

10 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

This is true, it was also Whaley's board and or scouting staff too right?

 

Maybe beane is the problem?

 

We also got Milano and taron Johnson in that class as well.

 

Taron was in 2018.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

Just now, ColoradoBills said:

 

Taron was in 2018.

Oops,my fault.

[Buffalo716]

25 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

What is the "Bills Culture" anyways?  I think its Josh Allen doing Josh Allen things with some help from James Cook.  But this supposed process and culture would be nothing without #17.  He is our "culture".  

 

McDermott got the Bills out of playoff hell in 2017.  Since then its been all #17.  

The culture is a coach who is steady .. doesn't get high doesn't get too low, and develops players at a higher Pace than 90% of the NFL

 

Dude Mike McDaniel wouldn't be able to have this roster focused like McDermott for 7 years

 

Even the best coaches like Andy Reid had his message gets stale in Philadelphia.. no not any single coach could have came here and have the same success 

 

That's why it's the ultimate team game and it takes a great organization

 

People don't think we can get worse again? Trust me it can get much much much worse

 

Why did Bill belichick bring back people for 15 years? Because he always got the most out of them... 

 

It should be a testament to the culture that Sean McDermott built that players always want to come back and play for him.. they've been around the league and seen worse organizations and want to come home

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I think it boils down to this. 

For such a complicated defense it isn't all that effective 

[Johnnycage46]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The culture is a coach who is steady .. doesn't get high doesn't get too low, and develops players at a higher Pace than 90% of the NFL

 

Dude Mike McDaniel wouldn't be able to have this roster focused like McDermott for 7 years

 

Even the best coaches like Andy Reid had his message gets stale in Philadelphia.. no not any single coach could have came here and have the same success 

 

That's why it's the ultimate team game and it takes a great organization

 

People don't think we can get worse again? Trust me it can get much much much worse

 

Why did Bill belichick bring back people for 15 years? Because he always got the most out of them... 

 

It should be a testament to the culture that Sean McDermott built that players always want to come back and play for him.. they've been around the league and seen worse organizations and want to come home

 

What exactly does this mean? Serious question. Why are we drafting guys that need such development? Why not get freak athletes who want to crush their enemies? nobody is making the Bills draft the players they do.

[ColoradoBills]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It should be a testament to the culture that Sean McDermott built that players always want to come back and play for him.. they've been around the league and seen worse organizations and want to come home

 

If the day comes that McDermott loses the locker room, then it's time to talk about moving on at HC.

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

I'd rather be mad about Kincaid's 54% snap count and 6 targets when even Kelce's lowest snap count is in the mid 70s.

 

Kincaid was eating and they decided to stop using him for some reason.  Wasn't listed on the injury report yesterday or today from McD so basically they just decided that they needed to play knox instead because "everybody eats"

Flat out dumb.  When you have the hot hand, keep him on the field, and keep throwing to him. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

If the day comes that McDermott loses the locker room, then it's time to talk about moving on at HC.

Ofc and it will be easy to see if or when that day comes 

 

It's hard to keep a locker room for 20 years

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

If the day comes that McDermott loses the locker room, then it's time to talk about moving on at HC.

only once the team no longer wants to play for him is it time to consider moving on! what a standard lmfao

[uticaclub]

22 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

... It should be a testament to the culture that Sean McDermott built that players always want to come back and play for him.. they've been around the league and seen worse organizations and want to come home

Most of the players we bring back don't have many options.

[SoCal Deek]

16 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

For such a complicated defense it isn't all that effective 

And that’s the irony. 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

only once the team no longer wants to play for him is it time to consider moving on! what a standard lmfao

 

No that's not what I'm saying.. I'm saying once a coach loses the locker room it doesn't matter if they're Bill belichick or  Nick Saban 

 

It's clear to see 

 

And our locker room 100% still believes in Sean McDermott and we're a good football team

 

The fact that guys like Jordan Phillips or everybody that has left wants to come back shows that McDermott is doing it right.. because if they thought he was a inept, they wouldn't be running back

 

McDermott always has maximized the talent he was given

Edited 45 minutes ago by Buffalo716

[GoBills808]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

 

No that's not what I'm saying.. I'm saying once a coach loses the locker room it doesn't matter if they're Bill belichick or  Nick Saban 

 

It's clear to see 

 

And our locker room 100% still believes in Sean McDermott and we're a good football team

 

The fact that guys like Jordan Phillips or everybody that has left wants to come back shows that McDermott is doing it right.. because if they thought he was a inept, they wouldn't be running back

i dont care if the team likes him or not lol it doesn't matter to me at all

 

guys hated playing for belichick

 

 

[Nostradumbass]

Almost the entire league is crying for Oline help and we have basically 8 deep

 

We also have made Dline a priority with our recent FA and draft allocations 

 

You can't be deep everywhere and its ultimately understandable why this team would choose to have Tre back as the 4th corner