2025 Trade Ideas Prior to the Deadline

[boyst]

1 hour ago, EssexBill said:

I don’t have any strong thoughts on who to get rid of, but please God get a competent safety in somehow someway

why is justin simmons still available? i don't get it. at least put him on a PS somewhere.

[Westside]

44 minutes ago, henry jones said:

I'd trade Groot for Hendrickson at this point!

Groot sucks. He’s been a huge disappointment.

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

I'll be completely honest, I was never a Ray Davis fan so it doesn't bother me too much, but I get your point.

 

@Kirby Jackson to get us back on track, I select 

 

Chris Olave

 

The setting:

 

His option has been picked up for '26. He has not signed an extension despite being extension eligible. Which means he's gettable.  The Saints may not be sure to pay him with his concussion history. Olave may not be sure to re-sign with the Saints because they are a trash can. Who knows.  

 

What we do know is that Garrett Wilson and Jamo, both in his draft class, have gotten extended already. Wilson got $32MAAV and Jamo got $26M. Have to assume Olave will want that ball park.

 

His salary for 2025 is also quite light. The Bills would be on the hook for mostly his salary as the Saints only save about $3.3M on trading him but likely less with prorated games.

 

Now, what does a 1k yard receiver with a concussion history and a pending massive contract cost?  Maybe the DK Metcalf package?  a 2nd plus?

 

I'd do that in 2 seconds.

We have enough injury prone players on this team. Why not draft, sign or trade for someone who doesn’t have an injury history. Especially a concussion. That’s a real hard no for me!

[Magox]

For me the most pressing need this team needs is a true 1 technique DT.   Our biggest liability by far is stopping the run.  If we can stop the run then everything else on defense gets infinitely more simple.

 

Some potential targets:

 

- Jeffrey Simmons - Big contract but he can do it all and Tennessee may look to reset - He's my ideal situation

Probably would take a 2nd or 3rd rounder, could throw a player as well.

 

- Mazi Smith - A bit unproven - he is a pure nose tackle and he's been supplanted by Kenny Clark

Probably would take a 5th or 6th rounder

 

- Jordan Davis - I don't think they'd move him but they do have depth at that position -  He doesn't offer a lot against the pass 

If he were to be available a 2nd or 3rd and a player 

 

-Derrick Brown - Carolina player - Dominant run defender, maybe the best in the NFL - pretty expensive contract - Carolina is struggling and could look to trade him

Probably would take a 1st and a mid rounder and maybe a player

 

- DJ Jones - Very strong against the run - much cheaper 

Probably a mid to late rounder and maybe a player

 

-Sebastian Joseph-Day - Another good run stuffer - doesn't cost much and is of rotational value 

Probably a late rounder like a 6th

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

I also still somehow think DJ Moore is available.

 

He's been a round peg in a square hole basically his entire time in Chicago and I'm not sure they love him there.

 

Now his salary is a bit tougher to get around at $20M, so prorated without us ripping up his deal, he would still be expensive from cap perspective. But at 28 and expensive, he may be closer to mid round pick and some stuff in trade comp.

 

And remember we'd need the space to accept his contract before we can renegotiate it. 

 

With the Bears 2-2 I think it is less likely now he is available. 

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

I'll be completely honest, I was never a Ray Davis fan so it doesn't bother me too much, but I get your point.

 

@Kirby Jackson to get us back on track, I select 

 

Chris Olave

 

The setting:

 

His option has been picked up for '26. He has not signed an extension despite being extension eligible. Which means he's gettable.  The Saints may not be sure to pay him with his concussion history. Olave may not be sure to re-sign with the Saints because they are a trash can. Who knows.  

 

What we do know is that Garrett Wilson and Jamo, both in his draft class, have gotten extended already. Wilson got $32MAAV and Jamo got $26M. Have to assume Olave will want that ball park.

 

His salary for 2025 is also quite light. The Bills would be on the hook for mostly his salary as the Saints only save about $3.3M on trading him but likely less with prorated games.

 

Now, what does a 1k yard receiver with a concussion history and a pending massive contract cost?  Maybe the DK Metcalf package?  a 2nd plus?

 

I'd do that in 2 seconds.

 

A 2nd and a 5th or something..... maybe a 2nd a 5th and Curtis Samuel or Elijah Moore? Sure there is an injury risk, but he is immediately a stud on this offense. 

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And remember we'd need the space to accept his contract before we can renegotiate it. 

 

With the Bears 2-2 I think it is less likely now he is available. 

 

A 2nd and a 5th or something..... maybe a 2nd a 5th and Curtis Samuel or Elijah Moore? Sure there is an injury risk, but he is immediately a stud on this offense. 

Outside of a star pass rusher (who may or may not be available) I think Olave increases our SB odds the most the second he is traded to us. 
 

Combined with his injury risk, he may be the most realistic best upgrade available.

 

It’s not without some risk, but I’m in the “nothing ventured nothing gained,” camp

 

 

[JP51]

4 hours ago, The BLUES Brothers said:

 Sal Capaccio of WGR agrees with you. He said the Coaches really like Knox, amd his leadership.  and said he believes there will be a restructure next year to have him retire a Buffalo Bill. 

Yeah, I think this guy is one of those whose sum is greater than the parts.. .I also think they like the ability to go 3TE , I think if Knox wants to be here he will ... 

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, Westside said:

Groot sucks. He’s been a huge disappointment.

We have enough injury prone players on this team. Why not draft, sign or trade for someone who doesn’t have an injury history. Especially a concussion. That’s a real hard no for me!

Who do you want that is reasonably available?

 

Would you rather have players that aren’t good instead of injury risk players that are very good?

 

I don’t understand, truly.

[Westside]

Just now, FireChans said:

Who do you want that is reasonably available?

 

Would you rather have players that aren’t good instead of injury risk players that are very good?

 

I don’t understand, truly.

I would have they rather sign some top talent during the offseason. Kind of late to do know, but you already knew that.

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, Westside said:

I would have they rather sign some top talent during the offseason. Kind of late to do know, but you already knew that.

They was no top talent to sign.

 

they could’ve traded for Metcalf. That’s pretty much it and they clearly did not.

 

so what do you want them to do now 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

why is justin simmons still available? i don't get it. at least put him on a PS somewhere.

Maybe he doesn't want to be on a PS or is depending a certain salary that teams don't want to pay. 

[Mark Vader]

3 hours ago, EssexBill said:

I don’t have any strong thoughts on who to get rid of, but please God get a competent safety in somehow someway

Ray Davis, a 2nd round pick & a 6th round pick for Budda Baker.

 

 

A fan can dream.

[boyst]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

Maybe he doesn't want to be on a PS or is depending a certain salary that teams don't want to pay. 

which is entirely fair. if you've got your floor of what you'd like to earn than why bother doing anything if it is not worth it to you?

 

practicing on the practice squad is just the same tax on your body as being on the full roster. why do more to your body if you've invested and saved enough money? i don't blame him but also wish he would accept league minimum to get on our practice squad.

[Kornfed]

Need a CB .. Tre is too slow n Max is inexperienced. This is what I see coming 

[Walking Tall]

3 hours ago, EssexBill said:

I don’t have any strong thoughts on who to get rid of, but please God get a competent safety in somehow someway

Is it worth it bringing in a safety at this point? According to Micah Hyde, it took him two seasons to feel comfortable in McDermott’s defense. I don’t disagree that we need better safety play, and people may not want to hear this, but Bishop, Rapp, Lewis and Hamlin are probably our best best options for the rest of the season. 

Edited Thursday at 04:25 PM by Walking Tall

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, mannc said:

I can’t imagine Ray Davis has any trade value.  His current trajectory has him headed to the PS…

 

That is very possibly the case. Which is why I'm saying if you can can get anything you should absolutely do it!

[BillsShredder83]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

I also still somehow think DJ Moore is available.

 

He's been a round peg in a square hole basically his entire time in Chicago and I'm not sure they love him there.

 

Now his salary is a bit tougher to get around at $20M, so prorated without us ripping up his deal, he would still be expensive from cap perspective. But at 28 and expensive, he may be closer to mid round pick and some stuff in trade comp.

This is the move to me, over Olave, if both are options. Bears SHOULD deal him, as theyre loaded at WR and desperately are going to need all the picks they can to build this offseason.... possibly (slim, but possible) even looking to move on from Caleb Williams since Ben "Difficult Personality" Johnson, isn't tied to him.

 

Big problem with that is theyre technically only 1game back in division.... everyone and their mother knows they'll be a turd at bottom of trash can by end of season, but they might not know... or at least cant admit.

 

Lions, packers, Vikings is a tough division and Bears need to show me the baby before I ever take them seriously

[gonzo1105]

When looking at teams to trade with you not only have to look at teams that are out of the playoff race but also teams that have a HC/GM that are secure in their jobs beyond this year. 
 

Teams that I feel will be trading possibly that have secure leadership at least for next year are 

 

Jets

Cleveland(Maybe)

Tenn 

Las Vegas

New Orleans

 

I mean that’s about it. If there is a malcontent out there then sure a guy could be dealt but don’t think the Bills would be interested. 

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

A 2nd and a 5th or something..... maybe a 2nd a 5th and Curtis Samuel or Elijah Moore? Sure there is an injury risk, but he is immediately a stud on this offense. 

 

How would you feel about Rashid Shaheed? 1 year deal which makes a trade palatable, gives us the vertical element that we're missing. I don't think a true stud WR is in the cards so I'm trying to think about realistic options.

[GunnerBill]

51 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

How would you feel about Rashid Shaheed? 1 year deal which makes a trade palatable, gives us the vertical element that we're missing. I don't think a true stud WR is in the cards so I'm trying to think about realistic options.

 

I wouldn't give much for him. 6th that is a conditional 5th maybe? But I understand the thinking.

[billykay]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd do that YESTERDAY.

If we like Gore over Davis, why don't the Cards just grab him from our PS ?