SI Article on Trades That Should Happen (a few Bills ones)

[Thurman#1]

6 minutes ago, Westside said:

You think this defense is good? And I’m the one trolling? Lol

Good luck stopping the chiefs in the playoffs with this defense! lol

 

 

 

Sorry, man, the idea's dumb. We won't be facing the Chiefs in the playoffs with this defense.

 

Because if the return of Hoecht, Ogunjobi, Big Ed, Milano and Hairston doesn't make them demonstrably not "this defense," then the further maturation of the rookies who are already playing certainly should for anyone with a lick of common sense.

 

I hear they've got this mushroom coffee, to help wean you off caffeine? Supposed to not be that bad.

 

And yes, you're the one trolling. 'Nuff said for me on that.

Edited Thursday at 09:56 AM by Thurman#1

[CSBill]

12 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

You'd think by week 4 the dietician would have him fattened back up if they wanted him to be

My same thought. I put on 10 pounds last week without even thinking about it. Send him out to Hammers Lot to consume some wings. 

[mannc]

13 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

Toward the end of the Josh Allen mic’d up video there’s footage of Ray Davis in the huddle and he looks very little like the short/stout RB we saw last year, almost like a non-athlete. I wonder if he actually lost more like 20-25 lbs instead of the 15 that’s been cited.  A pretty grievous mistake on his part in my opinion.

The Bills need to do something at RB.  The number of touches Cook is getting every week is not sustainable and if he goes down, this offense is in trouble. I expect they give Davis another chance vs NE and ATL, but something has to be done.  Give Gore Jr a shot, or make a trade.  Fortunately, there is no easier position to fill than RB2, but they can’t keep giving Cook this number of touches.

[T master]

15 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/one-trade-every-nfl-team-should-make-before-the-2025-deadline

 

Interesting article.  On the Bills front, this article would have us acquiring CB Alontae Taylor from the Saints for a 4th, and WR Jakobi Meyers from Vegas for a 4th (although it also has Meyers goign to Arizona for a 4th).  It has us trading Dawson Knox to, of all places, Carolina for a 5th.  

 

I know nothing about Taylor, but we need CB help, and Meyers would add some boundry juice to the WR room.  Don't like losing Knox, but if it clears cap space that's fine.  Otherwise I see little reason for the move.  

 

Thoughts?

 

Other players on the move in this article I'd like to see the Bills go after include: 

 

--DT Simmons; DE Hendrickson; and RB Kamara or Pollard. 

 

I think we need to strengthen the interior DL, add a CB, and a backup RB at the deadline.  WR would be nice, but as we are scroing 30+ a game, not sure how necessary at this juncture.  

 

 

I agree in fortifying the D with another player and seeing as Cinci will be all but tanking this season there may be a chance to get Hendrickson if they would eat most of his contract but not sure that would happen . 

 

The Bills don't need another WR they have plenty that they aren't utilizing tot heir full potential yet and that chemistry takes time to build with Josh and for them to learn the offense, another CB wouldn't be a bad thing either for depth & they also have plenty of RB's in the room so I'm not for that either .

 

The D is the weak spot ! The offense is good & I think will get better as Josh has more time working with them & Brady has more time to work them into the Bills scheme and if the offense does get better than what they have shown to this point WATCH OUT !! 

 

GO BILLS !!! 

[TFBillsfan]

11 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Would you want to acquire Jeffrey Simmons? I wouldn't want to give up a 2nd rounder, but he would definitely sure up that inside run defense 

With how we draft in the 2nd round, I’d easily give up a 2nd knowing we’d have an absolute beast on the DL to pair up w Oliver, Bosa, Groot. Add in Hoecht along w Sanders and Walker developing. 

[Beck Water]

11 hours ago, Breakout Squad said:

I know that it’s not easy to bring a new CB in and expect him to perform immediately, but I think the BILLS need some insurance at CB.

 

If Benford gets hurt the secondary is severely compromised. There has to be a veteran CB that could be traded for in the next few weeks from a non-playoff team.

 

Beane traded a 3rd for Cooper. Ship a 2nd rounder for a stud CB to shore up the secondary. Lots of football left and this team should be playing in February. 

 

Let me get this straight.  You want Beane to trade a second round draft pick for a CB to....sit on the bench?

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

The Bills need to do something at RB.  The number of touches Cook is getting every week is not sustainable and if he goes down, this offense is in trouble. I expect they give Davis another chance vs NE and ATL, but something has to be done.  Give Gore Jr a shot, or make a trade.  Fortunately, there is no easier position to fill than RB2, but they can’t keep giving Cook this number of touches.

 

The attempts per game Cook is getting (18-ish) are on par with other top running backs in the league (Henry, Barkley, Williams, Jonathan, Gibbs)

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Trading Knox does free up 9 mil in cap space, but at this point in the season what would we spend that on? Knox for a late draft pick doesn't make any sense

 

Knox + 3rd-ish for a game wrecker like Hendrickson or Simmons is intriguing. I'm not a capologist but I'm assuming we could make it work

 

I'm not really interested in targeting a WR/CB/S/RB unless we have some serious injuries. Trading for Cooper last year was such a waste of assets

[Don Otreply]

Just typical content for clicks article, with trades and acquisition that are not going to happen, 

 

Go ahead prove me wrong…, 🤣

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Westside]

6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

Sorry, man, the idea's dumb. We won't be facing the Chiefs in the playoffs with this defense.

 

Because if the return of Hoecht, Ogunjobi, Big Ed, Milano and Hairston doesn't make them demonstrably not "this defense," then the further maturation of the rookies who are already playing certainly should for anyone with a lick of common sense.

 

I hear they've got this mushroom coffee, to help wean you off caffeine? Supposed to not be that bad.

 

And yes, you're the one trolling. 'Nuff said for me on that.

I’m sorry you aren’t able to understand common sense. Maybe in the future. Good riddance to you.

[BillsShredder83]

18 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/one-trade-every-nfl-team-should-make-before-the-2025-deadline

 

Interesting article.  On the Bills front, this article would have us acquiring CB Alontae Taylor from the Saints for a 4th, and WR Jakobi Meyers from Vegas for a 4th (although it also has Meyers goign to Arizona for a 4th).  It has us trading Dawson Knox to, of all places, Carolina for a 5th.  

 

I know nothing about Taylor, but we need CB help, and Meyers would add some boundry juice to the WR room.  Don't like losing Knox, but if it clears cap space that's fine.  Otherwise I see little reason for the move.  

 

Thoughts?

 

Other players on the move in this article I'd like to see the Bills go after include: 

 

--DT Simmons; DE Hendrickson; and RB Kamara or Pollard. 

 

I think we need to strengthen the interior DL, add a CB, and a backup RB at the deadline.  WR would be nice, but as we are scroing 30+ a game, not sure how necessary at this juncture.  

 

 

Hendrickson just signed a deal, was it a pay bump just for this season?

 

Maybe we can interest them in some kind of combo of: draft pick(s?),  Trubisky, Epenesa, Alec Anderson.

 

Just riffing names/positions i think they could possibly have an interest in?

 

Obv some of those names are more valuable than others, so the draft pick from us would be of a sliding value, depending.

[BillsShredder83]

18 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

Toward the end of the Josh Allen mic’d up video there’s footage of Ray Davis in the huddle and he looks very little like the short/stout RB we saw last year, almost like a non-athlete. I wonder if he actually lost more like 20-25 lbs instead of the 15 that’s been cited.  A pretty grievous mistake on his part in my opinion.

Did he contract AIDS? 

Was this our staff giving him the Epenesa make over?

If not, did he inform the team?

 

Its bizarre. Limited plays, but he looks slower, which doesn't make sense for dropping weight. Wtf happened here??? Buffalo blow isn't even any good, and i don't think hes that type of dude either

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Trading Knox does free up 9 mil in cap space, but at this point in the season what would we spend that on? Knox for a late draft pick doesn't make any sense

 

Knox + 3rd-ish for a game wrecker like Hendrickson or Simmons is intriguing. I'm not a capologist but I'm assuming we could make it work

 

I'm not really interested in targeting a WR/CB/S/RB unless we have some serious injuries. Trading for Cooper last year was such a waste of assets

 

If traded we’d still be in the hook for the cap associated with the cash pais to Knox on his $9.5M salary. That’s $559k per game prior to the trade.  $2.235M for the 4 games he’s played. If we traded him today we’d clear $7.26M.

 

It’s worth noting that the Bills are likely considering trading him. I base that on them not restructuring his contract. They’ll almost certainly need to do it at some point to free up some space - and he’s got the only contract left they could do it with. They’re keeping their options open. 

[BillsShredder83]

16 hours ago, Maine-iac said:

If I wanted a big slot to play behind Shakir I'd steal Nash off Atlanta's practice squad.  Former QB with 6'3" size and enough quickness and size to be a problem out of the slot.

Fun reel! I know SJ State was/is high flying offense. He knows how to use his body, highpoints the ball with authority.

 

Didn't see too much of him RAC, looked like he had good contact balance though in limited tape I saw. Is he a physical guy after the catch, or is that part of his game more getting off the line and at the catch?

 

Kind of an interesting prospect but not sure who the candidate hed be to replace, since hed have to g2 the active roster (if PS Poach)?

 

Probably Samuel? Much lower % chance at possibly replacing Shavers since theyre in a similar mold... but really can't see that happening.

 

Side note: dude was Receivers triple crown king last year... and went undrafted? I get it, SJ State and all, but dudes obv pretty raw at the position and is just a pure athlete transitioning like that. Probably get dinged for being 26yrs old.

 

Thanks for bringing this dude up, I enjoyed seeing that

 

https://youtu.be/fHLGt7U-4F8

Edited Thursday at 05:25 PM by BillsShredder83

[mannc]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

The attempts per game Cook is getting (18-ish) are on par with other top running backs in the league (Henry, Barkley, Williams, Jonathan, Gibbs)

Nope, including pass receptions, Cook’s averaging 22 touches per game, with Baltimore being a low outlier.  That’s WAY more than he’s had in college or the NFL, and he’s also not built like those other guys you mention, except perhaps Gibbs.

[BillsShredder83]

16 hours ago, Magox said:

The only way the Bills trade for a CB is if they don’t believe Hairston will be able to play at a decent level this year.

 

The offense is tops in the league and the run defense is one of the worst.  We need a true quality 1 technique.   We have DE’s and WR’s that we could trade.  Maybe Epenesa or Samuelson along with a mid to late rounder should be able to net a quality run stuffing 1 technique

Id think a run stuffing 1T would be the most realistic grab too, considering the position/role and trade comp we'd be willing to give up. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

The Bills are not trading Knox unless we get a nice return, which a 5th is not close. The person who wrote that article has no idea what the Bills use him for and the idea that a 5th rounder could be expected to be better than his current abilities is ridiculous. Also trading him costs us cap money and we don't have any of that around. 

[Beck Water]

5 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Let me get this straight.  You want Beane to trade a second round draft pick for a CB to....sit on the bench?

 

Edit:  OK, you guys rolling your eyes at me.  So what do you want?  Beane to trade a 2nd round pick for a QB so Benford can sit on the bench?  So Tre White can sit on the bench?  What exactly do you want?

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

Nope, including pass receptions, Cook’s averaging 22 touches per game, with Baltimore being a low outlier.  That’s WAY more than he’s had in college or the NFL, and he’s also not built like those other guys you mention, except perhaps Gibbs.

 

Including pass receptions, Jacobs averaging 22.5 touches per game.  Jonathan Taylor, same.  Bucky Irving, same.  Saquon Barkley, 23.  Christian McCaffrey, 25.  You wanna do touches from scrimmage, gotta do them all.  Still on par.

Irving is 5'10, 195. I grant the other guys are stockier and more muscular.

Edited Thursday at 07:37 PM by Beck Water

[mannc]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

Including pass receptions, Jacobs averaging 22.5 touches per game.  Jonathan Taylor, same.  Bucky Irving, same.  Saquon Barkley, 23.  Christian McCaffrey, 25.  You wanna do touches from scrimmage, gotta do them all.  Still on par.

Irving is 5'10, 195. I grant the other guys are stockier and more muscular.

And Irving is now hurt…