Ravens at Chiefs - who do you want to have their third loss?

[GolfandBills]

Would be nice to see the chiefs get more losses before they get Worthy and Rice back.  I think once those two players come back they’ll get right back on track offensively 

[Buffalo03]

3 hours ago, Dan said:

F thay mentality!   This whole notion that we would have to beat KC and every other top team to validate our team is just ridiculous.  If we made the SB, would it only matter if we face Philly?    We don’t have to banish any demons to legitimize anything.    Just win!  

I’m not sure who I want to lose… but no way I can cheer for KC.  
 

Go Bills! 

Well, I'm moreso talking about the road to the Super Bowl than the Super Bowl itself. I'm tired of people's ignorant narrative. I don't want them having any narrative. Beat at least one good quality opponent to get to the Super Bowl. Why is everyone saying "I want to avoid the Ravens. Or I want to Avoid Kansas City" isn't that more of a problem? You want cake matchups on our way to the Super Bowl. That should tell you something 

[HamptonBillsfan]

The Chiefs would be my choice to get a third loss. They look so bad offensively that you would think a few more losses might make getting into the playoffs very challenging. Their pedigree is such that it is likely that they’ll be a very different team when they get their receivers back and Mahomes gets his head out of his rear end. You always want to get the Champs out of the way.The Ravens are also without some defenders that exposed their inability to stop the run. They are in a weak division and likely will win the AFC North. Their O-line was overwhelmed by Detroit’s front seven and Lamar looked rushed, confused and ineffective. Henry is in the midst of a crisis of confidence having fumbled in three straight games and hurting his team badly. Their coaching staff looks like they’re not able to install game plans on both sides of the ball against quality teams. This is a monstrous game for both teams.

[chris heff]

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t want either but the right answer is the Ravens. They are still going to bounce back and go to the playoffs (probably still win their division). There is a world where a 1-3 Chiefs team misses the playoffs. 

I agree, Ravens will win their division. Chiefs on the other hand could find themselves on the outside looking in. I’d like one of them to miss the playoffs altogether, and that team is more likely to the Chiefs.

[nedboy7]

Ravens are going to stomp the Chiefs.  

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Well, I'm moreso talking about the road to the Super Bowl than the Super Bowl itself. I'm tired of people's ignorant narrative. I don't want them having any narrative. Beat at least one good quality opponent to get to the Super Bowl. Why is everyone saying "I want to avoid the Ravens. Or I want to Avoid Kansas City" isn't that more of a problem? You want cake matchups on our way to the Super Bowl. That should tell you something 

Yes. I want cake matchups on the way to the Super Bowl. I’d much rather play the Dolphins, Jets and Saints than the Ravens, Chiefs and Chargers. I want the Bills to win the Super Bowl. Why would anyone want that to be harder for them to do? That makes no sense. They don’t ask “how” they ask “how many.”

[YattaOkasan]

13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t want either but the right answer is the Ravens. They are still going to bounce back and go to the playoffs (probably still win their division). There is a world where a 1-3 Chiefs team misses the playoffs. 

There is a world where the 2-2 Chiefs beat us and then were not the one seed and have to play through this gauntlet we have been talking about.  

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Ravens are going to stomp the Chiefs.  

Agreed. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s like a 42-10 type score. 

[Kirby Jackson]

9 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

Would be nice to see the chiefs get more losses before they get Worthy and Rice back.  I think once those two players come back they’ll get right back on track offensively 

They might just be too far back. They will certainly get better but if they’re 1-3, they still have to play at Jags, Lions, Commanders, at Bills, Colts, at Titans, at Cowboys, Texans, Chargers, Raiders (x2), & Broncos (x2). 7 losses might miss the playoffs and 8 almost certainly does. Do they play the rest of those games 9-4 or better? Maybe but you’d almost certainly get plus money that they are 10-5 or worse. If they lose this week, they are unlikely to make the playoffs. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

After next week. 

 

Baltimore: Bengalsx2, Browns, Steelersx2, Bears, Dolphins, Jets, Patriots, Vikes, Rams, GB, & Texans.

 

Chiefs: Denverx2, Bills, Lions, Chargers, Colts, Washington, Titans, Texans, Raidersx2, Cowboys, Jags. 

 

The bolded are games I would consider tough for both. Pittsburgh will put up a fight in one of the games. Same with Raiders for KC. Denver will likely pit up a fight in both.

 

I think we want Baltimore to lose. Because they may win and take advantage of that schedule. Whereas KC could win but still have the tougher schedule moving forward.

 

But we don't know what teams on that schedule will improve/regress as the year goes on. The Jags/Colts are a complete unknown to me right now. The Texans might get it together. 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 23 by Billsfanatic8989

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

There is a world where the 2-2 Chiefs beat us and then were not the one seed and have to play through this gauntlet we have been talking about.  

Sure they can beat us. The Bills are probably 14-3(ish). They already have the tiebreaker over the Ravens. That means 1 more Ravens loss and the Bills would host them. They aren’t running the table so I’m not worried about that. The Chiefs have at LEAST 4 more losses on their schedule. They aren’t up for the tiebreaker either. So yes, it’s the Ravens.

[Buffalo03]

3 hours ago, Dan said:

F thay mentality!   This whole notion that we would have to beat KC and every other top team to validate our team is just ridiculous.  If we made the SB, would it only matter if we face Philly?    We don’t have to banish any demons to legitimize anything.    Just win!  

I’m not sure who I want to lose… but no way I can cheer for KC.  
 

Go Bills! 

But people aren't gonna see it that way. It's still gonna be "Allen couldn't beat Mahomes to get there". I want that narrative done with is all I am saying

[YattaOkasan]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Sure they can beat us. The Bills are probably 14-3(ish). They already have the tiebreaker over the Ravens. That means 1 more Ravens loss and the Bills would host them. They aren’t running the table so I’m not worried about that. The Chiefs have at LEAST 4 more losses on their schedule. They aren’t up for the tiebreaker either. So yes, it’s the Ravens.

Thats the fascinating part of this topic.  Sure they COULD have 4 more losses and I expect it.  But I also expect us to beat them.  If they beat us then Im questioning that first expectation too.  We could easily drop 3 games besides the chiefs.  If they right the ship and only lose 2 games after beating us (and the Ravens) then were in trouble.  I do agree with your thoughts that Raves are better and they have the easier path to win their division.  But the unknown that comes with not having the tie breaker has me saying the chiefs. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

If the Bills cannot get the two seed with this schedule, and do not make the AFC title game at minimum, some serious questions should (but won't) be asked by ownership. It's never going to be easier than this to get HFA. 

 

Obviously injuries to certain players would change my stance.

 

 

Edited September 23 by Billsfanatic8989

[The Jokeman]

I'm rooting for a Ravens loss because the rest of their in conference schedule is weak. In case we have a multi-team tie breaker conference record is the tie breaker. 

[HaldimandBills]

I want the Ravens to win. That defense has issues that won't easily be fixed. Henry naturally wears down over the course of a season which makes the Ravens far more tolerable an opponent late in the year. Look how lost Lamar looked last night in the 4th quarter with Henry not able to suck coverage towards the line of scrimmage. He panics and scrambles. Henry is everything to that offense and he becomes less effective as the season goes on.

 

The Chiefs are going to figure it out eventually. With the Ravens and Lions coming up they could find themselves in a huge hole. Not a hole where they can't make the playoffs, but a hole where they can't be strategic in how they rest guys down the stretch and how they hide their offensive and defensive schemes for the playoffs. Mahomes is gonna have to rush a lot late in the season vs. only turning it on in the playoffs. 

 

Flip side is if Buffalo has a large enough lead they can now start resting guys down the stretch and be strategic with their play calls. That season where Buffalo went from 6 - 6 to 11 - 6 was an impressive turn around but it killed Buffalos roster having to essentially play for their playoff lives down the stretch. 

 

Buffalo hasn't been healthy defensively in the playoffs which has been the Bills downfall. The best way to avoid this is grabbing the # 1 seed which becomes more likely with a Ravens win. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, YattaOkasan said:

Thats the fascinating part of this topic.  Sure they COULD have 4 more losses and I expect it.  But I also expect us to beat them.  If they beat us then Im questioning that first expectation too.  We could easily drop 3 games besides the chiefs.  If they right the ship and only lose 2 games after beating us (and the Ravens) then were in trouble.  I do agree with your thoughts that Raves are better and they have the easier path to win their division.  But the unknown that comes with not having the tie breaker has me saying the chiefs. 

If the bills drop 3 other games that’ll mean that the Chiefs have to play: at Jags, Lions, Commanders, Colts, at Titans, at Cowboys, Texans, Chargers, Raiders (x2), & Broncos (x2) 10-2 in these game PLUS beat the Ravens and Bills to factor in the tiebreaker with a 13-4 Bills team. Lol, that’s not happening. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Sure they can beat us. The Bills are probably 14-3(ish). They already have the tiebreaker over the Ravens. That means 1 more Ravens loss and the Bills would host them. They aren’t running the table so I’m not worried about that. The Chiefs have at LEAST 4 more losses on their schedule. They aren’t up for the tiebreaker either. So yes, it’s the Ravens.

Well maybe this is the year the Bills lose to KC during the season and beat them in the postseason. It hasn't worked the other way around. 

[boyst]

47 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

If this plays out the way it’s going, I could see Buffalo winning the 1 seed and still having to play both teams in the 2nd and 3rd round. 
 

the chiefs will be on the road as a wild card and play someone easy like the colts and meet us in the 2nd round as the lowest seed. 
 

the ravens will steamroll everyone they play and see us in the championship game 

the way it may unfortunately play out is that Chargers get the #2 seed, #3 could be the Colts, leaving AFCN (Ravens) @ #4. Then it would fall something like 
 

7v2 - Steelers/Bengals/Jaguars/Raiders\Browns @ Chargers

6v3 - Steelers/Bengals/Jaguars/Raiders\Browns\Chiefs @Colts

5v4 - Chiefs/Bengals/Steelers @ Ravens

 

Chiefs having to play the Ravens in the playoffs would be a great thing for the rest of the AFC.

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Well maybe this is the year the Bills lose to KC during the season and beat them in the postseason. It hasn't worked the other way around. 

I’ll take that!! If KC loses this week, it’ll take a lot for them to be a playoff team. They will then probably have to win on the road at Baltimore, LA or Indy to get to come to Orchard Park. This game really puts them on the ledge.