Nominee for Weak Excuse of the Year

[The Wiz]

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Man you guys are just hard.

Cramps are debilitating.  Have you guys ever been in anything physical and get a terrible cramp?  You barely can move, surely can't run which means you are completely worthless on the field.  You're putting the game on the line with that player?

 

I have had a ruptured disk in my back that required surgery and the pain of that was less than some cramps that wouldn't go away.  

Limp, crawl, walk, hobble to the sideline and have the coach call a TO with 1 second on the play clock.  They will go to commercial and you get 2 minutes to work out whatever is happening.  If you can't fix it in that time.  Take the penalty and then punt it.  You don't keep your '2nd' best player on the sideline when you need a 1st down.

Edited September 9 by The Wiz

[Thrivefourfive]

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Ravens fans have to be asking the same exact questions about Harbaugh/Jackson Bills fans have been asking about McDermott/Allen. Is a generational talent being wasted ? Their coach has a pretty consistent habit of choking away pretty big games. Joe Flacco was 13 years ago. Harbaugh can’t coast off that ring forever. He inherited a lot of those great Ravens defenders. 

I do think it’s different though. Allen is far superior in the big games. Neither coach is anything to write home about when it comes to championships. Somehow Baltimore (Ravens) have won two super bowls with HCs that have less influence than the star players and/or coordinator. Ray Lewis won that guy a title 

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Limp, crawl, walk, hobble to the sideline and have the coach call a TO with 1 second on the play clock.  They will go to commercial and you get 2 minutes to work out whatever is happening.  If you can't fix it in that time.  Take the penalty and then punt it.  You don't keep your '2nd' best player on the sideline when you need a 1st down.

Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn’t.  Most of the times, if I come back in a few minutes, its flaring up again.  I need like 30 for it to go completely away.

 

I have had something like this is my hamstring training on the mats and it took about an hour to go away.  It wasn’t moving like this one but it had ripples.  I really don’t think there is anything more painful in the world.  I have had a woman who gave birth say that its worse than delivery a baby lol.

 

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

I do think it’s different though. Allen is far superior in the big games. Neither coach is anything to write home about when it comes to championships. Somehow Baltimore (Ravens) have won two super bowls with HCs that have less influence than the star players and/or coordinator. Ray Lewis won that guy a title 

Harbaugh has plenty enough talent to win a championship. He’s pissing away a very elite roster. Lamar Jackson and Henry are generation talents. They continuously underachieve every season. Sound familiar ? 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn’t.  Most of the times, if I come back in a few minutes, its flaring up again.  I need like 30 for it to go completely away.

 

I have had something like this is my hamstring training on the mats and it took about an hour to go away.  It wasn’t moving like this one but it had ripples.  I really don’t think there is anything more painful in the world.  I have had a woman who gave birth say that its worse than delivery a baby lol.

 

 

A bad cramp certainly is debilitating 

 

You will have like a golf ball on your leg and you can't work it out fast

[dave mcbride]

10 hours ago, Peace Frog said:

Apparently, the reason why Baltimore didn't go for it on 4th & 3 on their final possession was because Lamar was 'cramping'.  

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/breaking-news/article/lamar-jackson-said-cramps-were-the-reason-the-ravens-didnt-go-for-it-on-critical-4th-down-in-bills-comeback-win-141316780.html

 

 

Before you condemn Jackson, you might want to look at this play. Jackson limped off the field after this happened. Cramps was a euphemism for getting absolutely drilled. 

 

5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn’t.  Most of the times, if I come back in a few minutes, its flaring up again.  I need like 30 for it to go completely away.

 

I have had something like this is my hamstring training on the mats and it took about an hour to go away.  It wasn’t moving like this one but it had ripples.  I really don’t think there is anything more painful in the world.  I have had a woman who gave birth say that its worse than delivery a baby lol.

 

 

Um … I don’t think Jackson’s problem was cramps, whatever the stated rationale was.

[Bermuda Triangle]

9 hours ago, Herc11 said:

 

Not to mention that he also had on a baclava and had a personal heater on the sideline of a 60 degree game.

Dude has a sweet tooth - I can sympathize.

[chris heff]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

And, we know an agent could not have negotiated a better deal for him?

But you know this? He saved between $3m-$8m by not having an agent. 
 

I live a couple of miles from where Jackson played high school football, I’ve paid attention to his trajectory for years. These are not stupid people. He and his mother made sure he was going to be a QB, they moved to make that happen in high school. They changed his college commitment from Florida to Louisville, because Petrino guaranteed he would play QB. He won the Heisman as a sophomore. At the NFL combine he refused to try out as a WR. He gets drafted in the first round, negotiates his own contract using an attorney, because rookie contracts are slotted, no need to waste money on an agent. He becomes one of the NFLs premier QBs, wins MVP twice, gets Ravens in the playoffs six times. Negotiates a $260m contract and somehow you have reached the conclusion that he is stupid.

[Sierra Foothills]

1 hour ago, Ralonzo said:

 

 

Love this movie and William Zabka has had an interesting career playing hate-able characters.

 

[Thrivefourfive]

32 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Harbaugh has plenty enough talent to win a championship. He’s pissing away a very elite roster. Lamar Jackson and Henry are generation talents. They continuously underachieve every season. Sound familiar ? 

Just that Jackson, Andrew, Henry has pissed away games as well. Allen doesn’t. That’s the only difference here, to me. So yeah, McDermott is worse because he’s QB is a gamer til the end. And he’s either worse or better because he’s got way less to work with (or he develops talent into jags). Bills need Baltimores front office though.. 

[boyst]

34 minutes ago, chris heff said:

But you know this? He saved between $3m-$8m by not having an agent. 
 

I live a couple of miles from where Jackson played high school football, I’ve paid attention to his trajectory for years. These are not stupid people. He and his mother made sure he was going to be a QB, they moved to make that happen in high school. They changed his college commitment from Florida to Louisville, because Petrino guaranteed he would play QB. He won the Heisman as a sophomore. At the NFL combine he refused to try out as a WR. He gets drafted in the first round, negotiates his own contract using an attorney, because rookie contracts are slotted, no need to waste money on an agent. He becomes one of the NFLs premier QBs, wins MVP twice, gets Ravens in the playoffs six times. Negotiates a $260m contract and somehow you have reached the conclusion that he is stupid.

That explains a lot. It's personal. 

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Have you ever got a cramp doing the horizontal mambo?  I will literally yell at her to not move, I need to roll over very gingerly.  And Im so nervous the whole time I do something to work it worse because one bad move will, oh my god.

 

This is how bad a true cramp is.  I have been there before.

 

 

Haha, I got one in the middle of a game my Senior year and I just fell over like that guy did.  Couldn’t walk. Nothing you can do with it. If I was coaching a gotta have it play for 3 yards I don’t think I could roll with a guy showing those symptoms. 

[chris heff]

34 minutes ago, boyst said:

That explains a lot. It's personal. 

Not personal, I don’t know the man. I don’t prejudge people I don’t know. Based on the facts, which briefly are that a young man with great athletic ability, will earn at least a quarter of a billion dollars and create a legacy for his family. Stupid people don’t have that success. Now get in your last word.