Game week thread - Ravens at Bills SNF

[FranchiseSavior]

8 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

If that pass was caught (should have been) it would have gone down in the history books as one of the best passes ever under the circumstances. It was a phenomenal pass by Allen 

[FranchiseSavior]

8 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

If that pass was caught (should have been) it would have gone down in the history books as one of the best passes ever under the circumstances. It was a phenomenal pass by Allen 

We can play this if game both ways if Andrews doesn't drop the ball in the endzone... if Andrews didnt fumble the ball... if Bateman didn't run the wrong route... if Linderbaum didnt have a bad snap... of Henry didnt drop a wide open pass in 5je flat... if Andrws didnt drop a 1st down when no one was nothing 5 yards of him.  If Flowers wouldn't have gotten hurt...  if Bateman would have been available for the 4th qtr...  if if if then we beat Buffalo by multiple scores.  Phenomenal passes aren't underthrown. 

[FLFan]

11 hours ago, FranchiseSavior said:

They actually weren't count on Alexander.  We signed Awuzie to be CB2.  They gives us Wiggins and Awuzie outside and Humphrey in the slot. Once Alexander became available it was Lamar who was Alexander's teammate at Louisville who talked him into coming.  Alexander was more of a luxury than a necessity. 

Great.  A Ravens troll to annoy everyone this week.  By the way, the post I was responding to was indicating what a great addition Alexander was, making the Ravens even more insurmountable.  I was simply pointing out his addition is a nothing burger.  On that I agree with you.  

[FranchiseSavior]

7 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Sure sounds like you are here arguing with Bills fans to try and convince yourself of this. 

But what do I Know?  

congrats on going 17-0 and winning the Super Bowl already.  
 

 

 

 

It should have never been needed.  They had the perfect play call on the screen to cooper and he slipped and ruined the play.  He should have been off to the races down the sideline instead he slipped and essentially ended the season.

 

a damn third round pick.

This is the National Football League no one is going 17-0.  Judging by the post on this board there a numerous Bills fans who feel tue same way. 

[Simon]

8 hours ago, NewEra said:

Josh did a much better job on their respective plays than Lamar did.

 

The only reason Josh had to attempt that desperation throw (on which he missed the spot by 10+yards) was because he completely blew the read, both pre and post snap.

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, FranchiseSavior said:

I don't believe the narrative.  He has to and will win it. I think he sometimes get a bad rap.  He has come a long way from those 1st two playoff runs.  We sit here and say Josh has been the best player and he and Lamar has the same amount of SB wins.  The narrative is what it is because Lamar has to win it but Josh's narrative is different because he was the best player in some people's eyes. Even though he's yet to win it all either. I have a feeling that even if Lamar wins it all they'll be folks saying he had too much help.  

The narrative is different because JOSH HAS BEEN MUCH BETTER IN THE PLAYOFFS.  Period

[FranchiseSavior]

16 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Lamar doesn't get that throw off. Nobody in the NFL gets that throw off. Not even Allen 9 times out of 10. It looked like he was just throwing a desperation pass because he had defenders literally draping off him. Turns out he hit his receiver in the hands 30 yards downfield. It would be considered an all time play in postseason history if the Bills go on to win that game.  

 

The 2 pointer was a routine play and not perfectly thrown, he should have caught it.

 

What are we talking about here? These two plays couldn't be more different. 

Lamar doesn't get that throw off?  Did you see Lamar bobble a snap Evade pressure, Stiff arm Hubbard and throw a TD to Likely leaving Hubbard to take his helmet off and fall to his knee?  How about him hitting Bateman 40 yards down field with Myles Garrett draped all on him.  And have Garrett look up and mutter the Words "How"  your dear friend Duwaune Smoot when in Jacksonville got the exact same treatment Lamr hits Likely for an impossible 1st down and Smoots on the ground shaking his head.  Contrary you what you guys believe Josh isn't the only one making these phenomenal plays 

[FranchiseSavior]

23 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Lamar doesn't get that throw off. Nobody in the NFL gets that throw off. Not even Allen 9 times out of 10. It looked like he was just throwing a desperation pass because he had defenders literally draping off him. Turns out he hit his receiver in the hands 30 yards downfield. It would be considered an all time play in postseason history if the Bills go on to win that game.  

 

The 2 pointer was a routine play and not perfectly thrown, he should have caught it.

 

What are we talking about here? These two plays couldn't be more different. 

It only hit him in thebhand because the TE made a miraculous play to come back to an underthrown ball.  

 

Wait Josh pass was a perfect pass event though the TE had to come back to an underthrown ball however Lamar Jackson's pass was "not perfectly thrown" even though it hit Andrews in the stomach? This is wicked work.

12 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Great.  A Ravens troll to annoy everyone this week.  By the way, the post I was responding to was indicating what a great addition Alexander was, making the Ravens even more insurmountable.  I was simply pointing out his addition is a nothing burger.  On that I agree with you.  

How am I a troll all I'm doing is defending my guy just as you guys are defending your guy.  

 

I do think he will be way more than a nothing burger.  I think he'll be one of the 3 CBs on the field in crunch time.  He's energy has been infectious amd he's actually played some good CB in practice.  I think the Ravens are playing the long game with Alexander.  If his knee was as bad as some think they would have kept Jalen Armour Davis.  JAD had a great camp and multiple team out in a waiver claim for him.  

[FranchiseSavior]

16 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

The only reason Josh had to attempt that desperation throw (on which he missed the spot by 10+yards) was because he completely blew the read, both pre and post snap.

He also missed the reads on the Tush Pushes.  KC knew he only went to the left side and he never adjusted. 

17 minutes ago, NewEra said:

The narrative is different because JOSH HAS BEEN MUCH BETTER IN THE PLAYOFFS.  Period

He's been much better in the playoffs and got outplayed by a mile in the divisional round game by Lamar

[stevewin]

How much I hate when "Opposing Fan Coming in Peace!" enters the chat to do nothing but pollute a Bills pre-game thread with endless ramblings on why Bills fans are wrong about their team

[JerseyBills]

Man , seeing his face last year is heartbreaking.. Man he's such a special human being on n off the field

 

[boyst]

6 minutes ago, FranchiseSavior said:

He also missed the reads on the Tush Pushes.  KC knew he only went to the left side and he never adjusted. 

He's been much better in the playoffs and got outplayed by a mile in the divisional round game by Lamar

yeah, good thing it's a team sport and the Bills won sweetie.

 

all these stats matter except when they don't, right? that's why last year Lamar should have been MVP and Henry is the best, and blablabla

 

if individual stats meant anything than you could run your mouth about how great these stats are with the Ravens. but even in the regular season who cares....playoffs matter. and wins matter. thus, sorry charlie....ravens don't matter.

 

this year is the test. if they can't do it this year everyone will ask when can they? will they supercede the mistakes often committed by their "MVP" QB?

 

odds are against it.

[SCBills]

No Likely for the Ravens. 
 

 

[boyst]

16 minutes ago, FranchiseSavior said:

It only hit him in thebhand because the TE made a miraculous play to come back to an underthrown ball.  

 

Wait Josh pass was a perfect pass event though the TE had to come back to an underthrown ball however Lamar Jackson's pass was "not perfectly thrown" even though it hit Andrews in the stomach? This is wicked work.

How am I a troll all I'm doing is defending my guy just as you guys are defending your guy.  

 

I do think he will be way more than a nothing burger.  I think he'll be one of the 3 CBs on the field in crunch time.  He's energy has been infectious amd he's actually played some good CB in practice.  I think the Ravens are playing the long game with Alexander.  If his knee was as bad as some think they would have kept Jalen Armour Davis.  JAD had a great camp and multiple team out in a waiver claim for him.  

alexander is washed. won't play against the bills. allen eats him alive and gets under his fragile skin to boot.

 

the ravens are pretty great to start the season - they'll bring their best game but it won't involve alexander.

[wjag]

My Monday is gonna be a blast or a b1tch depending on Sunday night.  I am the lone Bills fan in this office in MD.  I took the family to that abomination game played in Baltimore last year where Henry housed the ball on his first touch.  Ravens fans in the stadium and my office were lets just say vocally supporting their team.  But last year I had the last laugh.  Folks are gonna be gunning for me come Monday if the Ravens prevail. 😞

  When our Bills prevail, I'm gonna be full on a gloating... 🙂 

Edited September 3 by wjag

[Cray51]

It's week 1, I'm not evaluating this game for anything other than do we start 0-1 or 1-0.  Ravens are a contender, Bills are a contender.  I love that the Bills are home for this one, hopefully they pull out the win.

 

Either way, week 1 doesn't define a season, so I'm not getting too up or down!

[NewEra]

21 minutes ago, FranchiseSavior said:

He's been much better in the playoffs and got outplayed by a mile in the divisional round game by Lamar

I agree- Lamar played a better game than Josh.  But the turnovers were the difference.  If Josh had even just one turnover, you guys probably win that game.  He didn’t.  

Lamar played vs a terrible bills defense. The bills D was a sieve last season.  Bottom 3 on 3rd down in the NFL and seemed to only get worse in the playoffs.  
 

Josh played against a solid Ravens D. Solid, not great. Definitely much better than the defense Lamar was facing 💯 
 

and the fact remains that Josh has been a MUCH better playoff QB…..and this is why the narrative is different.  Those that have created the narrative have stated why they feel the way they do and there is plenty of evidence that backs it up.  
 

Lamar will be an all timer.  I do believe that he will win one.  Stop worrying about narratives. Enjoy your guy.  Coming onto Bills message boards thinking that you’re going to convince that Josh’s narrative should be equal to Lamar’s is just a waste of your short time here on earth.  But carry on, it’s your life.
 

 

[boyst]

Just now, NewEra said:

I agree- Lamar played a better game than Josh.  But the turnovers were the difference.  If Josh had even just one turnover, you guys probably win that game.  He didn’t.  

Lamar played vs a terrible bills defense. The bills D was a sieve last season.  Bottom 3 on 3rd down in the NFL and seemed to only get worse in the playoffs.  
 

Josh played against a solid Ravens D. Solid, not great. Definitely much better than the defense Lamar was facing 💯 
 

and the fact remains that Josh has been a MUCH better playoff QB…..and this is why the narrative is different.  Those that have created the narrative have stated why they feel the way they do and there is plenty of evidence that backs it up.  
 

Lamar will be an all timer.  I do believe that he will win one.  Stop worrying about narratives. Enjoy your guy.  Coming onto Bills message boards thinking that you’re going to convince that Josh’s narrative should be equal to Lamar’s is just a waste of your short time here on earth.  But carry on, it’s your life.
 

 

you can't ever say a player was outplayed by another when that player turned the ball over twice at critical times.

[CincyBillsFan]

44 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

The only reason Josh had to attempt that desperation throw (on which he missed the spot by 10+yards) was because he completely blew the read, both pre and post snap.

True but then again this is going to happen when going up against the best DC in the NFL.  The fact remains that Allen made a tremendous throw to put the ball in play and convert the 4th down.  Kincaid had both hands on the ball going to the ground.  If you watch high school football that same catch is often made.  I do believe that if Kincaid had been healthy he snags that ball but pushing off on that knee probably hurt like hell.

 

 

Edited September 3 by CincyBillsFan

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, boyst said:

you can't ever say a player was outplayed by another when that player turned the ball over twice at critical times.

I agree- I just don’t think his turnovers were at critical times.