PromoTheRobot Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mango said: Galisano found a way to buy a $75M yacht, not lose money on the Sabres, and replaced/updated the scoreboard at KBC within factory recommendations. So I don't buy it as a reasonable excuse for suckitude and neither should anybody else. He also let our two best players walk out the door and wrecked a contender. Just saying. Ol' Sugar Packets practically invented cash-to-cap. Edited August 22 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 22 Posted August 22 29 minutes ago, TH3 said: Sabres problem is they loooooze money every year…they are a charity money pit…they will never be profitable as there is no monster tv deal. Be happy Tpegs writes the checks to keep them here and afloat. He bought the Sabres for $189m. It's not valued at $1.1b. Why would he sell the team? Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: He bought the Sabres for $189m. It's not valued at $1.1b. Why would he sell the team? Chance to make a cool billion? 🤷♂️ Buffalo was already a small market. Now thousands of Canadians won't cross the border. The Sabres rely on fans that are close enough to come in for weeknight games. Take out the ones in Fort Erie, Niagara Falls and St. Catherine's and you have a problem. Edited August 22 by PromoTheRobot Quote
Mango Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: He also let our two best players walk out the door and wrecked a contender. Just saying. Ol' Sugar Packets invented cash to cap. Cool, when the Pegula era Sabres make a Stanley Cup final, Conference Final, and win the Presidents trophy, I'll remember to count my lucky stars that we are in the Pegula era, and we can finally end the nightmare that was the Galisano years.... Also Reinhart, O'Reilly, and Eichel would like a word. Briere/Drury left over money. The players from the last 14 years are publically begging to GTFO. Quote
HOUSE Posted August 22 Author Posted August 22 Why couldn't the guy just buy an 18 foot Sea Ray ? Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mango said: Cool, when the Pegula era Sabres make a Stanley Cup final, Conference Final, and win the Presidents trophy, I'll remember to count my lucky stars that we are in the Pegula era, and we can finally end the nightmare that was the Galisano years.... Also Reinhart, O'Reilly, and Eichel would like a word. Briere/Drury left over money. The players from the last 14 years are publically begging to GTFO. Golisano isn't why the Sabres had those good years. That was Darcy Regier. Tommy G bought the team at the right time. Then proceeded to wreck it with his cheapness. Please don't argue that Golisano was a better owner. He wasn't. 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Why couldn't the guy just buy an 18 foot Sea Ray ? Personally I wouldn't waste money on any boat, big or small. Just lease one when you get the urge to get nautical. Then again stuff like this might be more a billionaire d*** measuring contest. Edited August 22 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 22 Posted August 22 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Chance to make a cool billion? 🤷♂️ Buffalo was already a small market. Now thousands of Canadians won't cross the border. The Sabres rely on fans that are close enough to come in for weeknight games. Take out the ones in Fort Erie, Niagara Falls and St. Catherine's and you have a problem. As long as the value of NFL franchises keep going up I wouldn't sell. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Just now, Doc Brown said: As long as the value of NFL franchises keep going up I wouldn't sell. He can sell some minority stakes in the Sabres, start taking some money out of the equity. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 8 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Column 3 Every single goal of a professional franchise is to make money and keep up the lavish lifestyle of its owner... They are all living lavish lifestyles That's literally not new he's not owning these teams to lose money He's a billionaire he's doing it to get richer He can do whatever he wants with his money Edited August 22 by Buffalo716 Quote
Mango Posted August 22 Posted August 22 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Every single goal of a professional franchise is to make money and keep up their lavish lifestyle That's literally not new he's not owning these teams to lose money He's a billionaire he's doing it to get richer You don't communicate that down to your team of people, many of which are making 5 figures. Obviously rich people want to stay rich. Quote
SectionC3 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 43 minutes ago, TH3 said: Once more. Tpegs did not “take huge mounds of cash”…NY and Erie country contributed to the cost of the stadiu He is not taking public funds You have to be kidding. 1 1 Quote
Mango Posted August 22 Posted August 22 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Golisano isn't why the Sabres had those good years. That was Darcy Regier. Tommy G bought the team at the right time. Then proceeded to wreck it with his cheapness. Please don't argue that Golisano was a better owner. He wasn't. Personally I wouldn't waste money on any boat, big or small. Just lease one when you get the urge to get nautical. Then again stuff like this might be more a billionaire d*** measuring contest. Yeah, that wasn't Galisano, that was Rigas. Those bums Knox, Rigas, Galisano, figuring out how to field a team that that collectively had the 4th highest P% in the league. It's just this wild circumstances of events that makes the Pegula era Sabres a bottom 5 team in P% since he bought the team.* (* It's been some time since I've run the numbers. I think bottom 5 is generous. I think the Sabres are last/very close to last in P% across league from the 2011/12 season on) Quote
machine gun kelly Posted August 22 Posted August 22 To think a guy worth $7 billion is not going to have a lavish home(s) and a yacht along with Im sure luxury cars is naive. He’s allowed to have beautiful stuff. The cost of the stadium is what $2.25 billion so he paid a ton. NYS has its only football team in this state. It’s not like NYS doesn’t already have more social programs than many states. I don’t want to get into a liberal vs. conservative point of view discussion so if you like or don’t like, it’s done. Moving on. 1 Quote
Bad Things Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Throw me on the stack of people getting sick of these billionaires. 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mango said: Yeah, that wasn't Galisano, that was Rigas. Those bums Knox, Rigas, Galisano, figuring out how to field a team that that collectively had the 4th highest P% in the league. It's just this wild circumstances of events that makes the Pegula era Sabres a bottom 5 team in P% since he bought the team.* (* It's been some time since I've run the numbers. I think bottom 5 is generous. I think the Sabres are last/very close to last in P% across league from the 2011/12 season on) Maybe give the NHL itself credit for the Sabres being good since they ran the team between Rigas and Golisano. Terry, unlike Golisano, spent like a drunk sailor at the beginning. Remember the locker room refurb right after he bought the team? Edited August 22 by PromoTheRobot Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Mango said: You don't communicate that down to your team of people, many of which are making 5 figures. Obviously rich people want to stay rich. I mean I would believe it would be communicated that their goals are win championships, sustainability, and return on investment that's actually the type of thing that would come out at a company meeting... Notice the last thing was the lifestyle... The first two were win championships and sustainability... And even fund businesses and taxes were ahead of lifestyle... To me that shows it's last place because he's not there to lose his lifestyle either.. if any of us got to that level we don't want to lose it If that is his last goal.. and winning and sustainability and all that comes before it... of course the bills are there to also fund his lifestyle he's one of 32 in the world it's an elite company Edited August 22 by Buffalo716 Quote
Warcodered Posted August 22 Posted August 22 25 minutes ago, Bad Things said: Throw me on the stack of people getting sick of these billionaires. I mean that's fair. But getting mad at Terry specifically is kind of meh. A billionaire bought a yacht the way billionaires buy yachts, and he paid for a new stadium for his team in the same way. You can be upset at the system that has billionaires paying for stadiums with taxpayer money, but it's a little silly to be upset that the owner for your team wasn't dumb enough to be the only one not doing it. Quote
Mango Posted August 22 Posted August 22 29 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I mean I would believe it would be communicated that their goals are win championships, sustainability, and return on investment that's actually the type of thing that would come out at a company meeting... Notice the last thing was the lifestyle... The first two were win championships and sustainability... And even fund businesses and taxes were ahead of lifestyle... To me that shows it's last place because he's not there to lose his lifestyle either.. if any of us got to that level we don't want to lose it If that is his last goal.. and winning and sustainability and all that comes before it... of course the bills are there to also fund his lifestyle he's one of 32 in the world it's an elite company Dude, a billionaire explicitly telling a bunch of people making $60k per year that they're there to maintain his family lifestyle is remarkably bad practice. You have to know this, right? RIGHT!? LOL Quote
TH3 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: He bought the Sabres for $189m. It's not valued at $1.1b. Why would he sell the team? Didn’t say he would 55 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: You have to be kidding. Please explain 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: I think he's basically saying he used some of the money he didn't have to use to build the stadium to buy a yacht. Some construe that as bad optics. Whelp….in that case mr c3 should stop leeching off the content and excitement the bills create…I mean it’s free right? Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mango said: Dude, a billionaire explicitly telling a bunch of people making $60k per year that they're there to maintain his family lifestyle is remarkably bad practice. You have to know this, right? RIGHT!? LOL I bet it wasn't a bunch of cafeteria workers at the meeting I bet it was coo and CFO and vice president and lawyers and marketing people... It's one thing if he just walked into the cafeteria at one Bills drive and said hey we're not making me enough money and I can't go to the French Riviera! It's another thing in a pure business meeting setting No matter how much class or not you think is involved His business is there to fund his lifestyle intrinsically and that is a part of anybody's business.. to keep up their lifestyle.. whether it's done in poor taste or not, that's why they're in business partially It wouldn't be the first or the last time a billionaire or millionaire has put up a slideshow with something like that at a business meeting If he called out cafeteria workers at one Bills drive that they are the reason he can't fund his lifestyle that would be terribly sad... I don't think it was cafeteria workers at that meeting Edited August 22 by Buffalo716 Quote
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