Sojourner Posted August 2 Posted August 2 https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/rumors-odds-bills-among-favorites-to-pull-off-blockbuster-micah-parsons-trade-with-cowboys 😂 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: One year deal at 30. Injury History and no major drop off with the depth currently at LBer. He would be my first one I would include in any package as his name and history inflates his value at this point. Dallas has film and knows the injury history of Milano too. Because we're likely to pick at the end of the first round if this fantasy ever came true the trade would pry look something like this..... Two first round picks (2026,2027), a 2nd rounder in 2026, and Greg Rousseau. Would you do it knowing we have to make him the highest payed non QB in the NFL? Edited August 2 by Doc Brown 1 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted August 2 Posted August 2 13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Dallas has film and knows the injury history of Milano too. Because we're likely to pick at the end of the first round if this fantasy ever came true the trade would pry look something like this..... Two first round picks (2026,2027), a 2nd rounder in 2026, and Greg Rousseau. Would you do it knowing we have to make him the highest payed non QB in the NFL? So would I move 2 firsts (26 and 27 and a 26 2nd and Rousseau for Parsons - ABSOLUTELY 1 1 Quote
jkeerie Posted August 2 Posted August 2 11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Dallas has film and knows the injury history of Milano too. Because we're likely to pick at the end of the first round if this fantasy ever came true the trade would pry look something like this..... Two first round picks (2026,2027), a 2nd rounder in 2026, and Greg Rousseau. Would you do it knowing we have to make him the highest payed non QB in the NFL? I would not. Considering one of the most important offensive pieces, James Cook, is looking for a new contract, if you trade for Micah and spend that much money on one player NOT a QB, that, in my opinion, would not make as huge a difference on defense as Cook makes on offense...you will do damage to the chemistry of the team. 1 1 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I would not. Considering one of the most important offensive pieces, James Cook, is looking for a new contract, if you trade for Micah and spend that much money on one player NOT a QB, that, in my opinion, would not make as huge a difference on defense as Cook makes on offense...you will do damage to the chemistry of the team. Would actually make a HUGE difference to the Defense. Quick name the last Bills DE with a double digit sack season. Let along one with 4 seasons back to back to back to back with double digit sacks. cook at the end of the day is a RB. do the Bills have Points Scoring Problem in playoffs or Defense problems during playoffs?? Edited August 2 by MAJBobby 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 2 Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So would I move 2 firsts (26 and 27 and a 26 2nd and Rousseau for Parsons - ABSOLUTELY It would be an interesting poll question as I could see a 50/50 split in opinion. Quote
MAJBobby Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Just now, Doc Brown said: It would be an interesting poll question as I could see a 50/50 split in opinion. I am on when the last time the Bills had a DE with double digits sacks. Let alone one with 4 back to back seasons of double digit sacks. then looking at playoffs we can NEVER get pressure on QBs. This trade is a KO brainer for me. It isn’t a DE entering the twilight of their career. Instead a 26 year old entering his prime years. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I am on when the last time the Bills had a DE with double digits sacks. Let alone one with 4 back to back seasons of double digit sacks. then looking at playoffs we can NEVER get pressure on QBs. This trade is a KO brainer for me. It isn’t a DE entering the twilight of their career. Instead a 26 year old entering his prime years. I'd pry make that trade too. However, I think Beane is perfectly fine with continuing to put up a competitive team who makes the final eight and wins the division each year without mortgaging the future hoping that a ball will bounce our way one of these years. It's a good job security strategy too. He'd rather take mini swings like Bosa. 13 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I would not. Considering one of the most important offensive pieces, James Cook, is looking for a new contract, if you trade for Micah and spend that much money on one player NOT a QB, that, in my opinion, would not make as huge a difference on defense as Cook makes on offense...you will do damage to the chemistry of the team. You think Cook would have more of an impact than a guy like Parsons? I feel like I'm living in 1996 with this board when it comes to the Cook conversation. Quote
jkeerie Posted August 2 Posted August 2 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Would actually make a HUGE difference to the Defense. Quick name the last Bills DE with a double digit sack season. Let along one with 4 seasons back to back to back to back with double digit sacks. cook at the end of the day is a RB. do the Bills have Points Scoring Problem in playoffs or Defense problems during playoffs?? He double dips in sacks versus teams with poor olines. His sack totals are there, but he can't stop the run, and it hasn't trranslated into playoff wins for Dallas. And Cook is more than just an average RB. He has made a difference on the Bills. I'd rather pay him...no not Saquon Barkley or Derrick Henry money, but enough to get a deal done. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jkeerie said: He double dips in sacks versus teams with poor olines. His sack totals are there, but he can't stop the run, and it hasn't trranslated into playoff wins for Dallas. And Cook is more than just an average RB. He has made a difference on the Bills. I'd rather pay him...no not Saquon Barkley or Derrick Henry money, but enough to get a deal done. Now the 26-year-old Parsons who is one of only two players in NFL history to register a dozen-plus sacks in each of his first four NFL seasons, along with Reggie White. so are you putting Josh Allen at the Dak Prescott level? Notice you didn’t name the last bills DE with double digit sacks. but I get it let’s do the same thing again. Maybe this time the defense can finally get pressure sometime in the playoffs. and Yes COOK is your AVG NFL RB. Edited August 2 by MAJBobby 1 Quote
Simon Posted August 2 Posted August 2 He's going to be a FA in 5 months. Trading multiple firsts for him is goofy, imo. 2 2 Quote
jkeerie Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Now the 26-year-old Parsons who is one of only two players in NFL history to register a dozen-plus sacks in each of his first four NFL seasons, along with Reggie White. so are you putting Josh Allen at the Dak Prescott level? Notice you didn’t name the last bills DE with double digit sacks. but I get it let’s do the same thing again. Maybe this time the defense can finally get pressure sometime in the playoffs. and Yes COOK is your AVG NFL RB. I disagree about Cook. And it's obvious, that the Bills haven't had double digit sacks on defense so don't get catty with your argument. Micah Parsons is good at rushing the passer. My concern is that these kinds of moves seldom work out. There is no guarantee that Parsons will have the same number of sacks on the Bills. Plus you have to make Parsons the highest paid (or at least top 3) defensive end in the league. Now you have trouble having enough money to re-sign other players. You will also have given up top draft choices for the next two years, so you can't get younger and cheaper as easily. I'd rather wait and see what we have with the new additions on defense. This is just my opinion and it's obvious, I'm in the minority. 1 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Remind me again how much pressure did the defense get on Mahomes in the playoffs. What was the Points given up and what was KC playoff AVG scoring outside of the Bills game. was Milano playing against KC? This had nothing to do with it. You should try and get him. Milano was still recovering last year. You’re not bright to think a one year deal to Dallas is worth enough to move the needle. But his upside to us this season is strong. Quote
MAJBobby Posted August 2 Posted August 2 10 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I disagree about Cook. And it's obvious, that the Bills haven't had double digit sacks on defense so don't get catty with your argument. Micah Parsons is good at rushing the passer. My concern is that these kinds of moves seldom work out. There is no guarantee that Parsons will have the same number of sacks on the Bills. Plus you have to make Parsons the highest paid (or at least top 3) defensive end in the league. Now you have trouble having enough money to re-sign other players. You will also have given up top draft choices for the next two years, so you can't get younger and cheaper as easily. I'd rather wait and see what we have with the new additions on defense. This is just my opinion and it's obvious, I'm in the minority. So you would rather not make the SB because defense once again cannot get pressure in playoffs. sorry when I see Philly stacking superstars. Baltimore stacking superstars. And here are the Bills with everything on Josh. 12 minutes ago, Simon said: He's going to be a FA in 5 months. Trading multiple firsts for him is goofy, imo. Except he isn’t. Three years of cost control with Dallas. Jerry isn’t letting him walk. 3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: This had nothing to do with it. You should try and get him. Milano was still recovering last year. You’re not bright to think a one year deal to Dallas is worth enough to move the needle. But his upside to us this season is strong. I am smart enough to know it does equate to a 2nd at his age and clears 12M (to fit the 5th year option of Parsons). I am also smart enough to know the Defnede has been the issue with getting over the hump not the offense. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted August 2 Posted August 2 5 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Cap space is manipulated. Out teams can have multiple high cap players we can too. I want multiple titles Parsons would greatly help that venture I am aware, but do you want to maneuver us into a cap mess by pushing everything to the future. One of the reasons weve done so well, is Beane has been shrewd to extend early, and in the end get breaks, vs. Jerrah who waits til the last minute, and now he’s screwed on the Parsons extension. 1 1 Quote
appoo Posted August 2 Posted August 2 On 8/1/2025 at 9:55 AM, Ethan in Cleveland said: Id give them the next three first round picks. I’d give up literally anything other than Josh Allen to have him for the next 8-10 years Quote
jkeerie Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: So you would rather not make the SB because defense once again cannot get pressure in playoffs. sorry when I see Philly stacking superstars. Baltimore stacking superstars. And here are the Bills with everything on Josh. I agree our defense has been the reason why the Bills can't get passed KC. No argument there. We have been plagued by injuries to key players...and you do wonder if that wouldn't have made a differene if the Bills went into the last two playoff seasons healthy. I also wonder sometimes if it's our scheme defensively. We rotate our D lineman so much...and you do wonder, if we would have double-digit sacks for players if they played more snaps. I think defensive lineman need to get into a rhythm with their pass rush like QBs need to get into a rhythm passing the football. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted August 2 Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, appoo said: I’d give up literally anything other than Josh Allen to have him for the next 8-10 years This is my thinking as well. Quote
SinceThe70s Posted August 2 Posted August 2 46 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am on when the last time the Bills had a DE with double digits sacks. Let alone one with 4 back to back seasons of double digit sacks. then looking at playoffs we can NEVER get pressure on QBs. This trade is a KO brainer for me. It isn’t a DE entering the twilight of their career. Instead a 26 year old entering his prime years. This. Von Miller was an attempt to address that but unfortunately the injury derailed it. We have the QB, but we're missing a game wrecker on D. 2 Quote
BarleyNY Posted August 2 Posted August 2 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Everything is feasible. I hope Beane is making the calls. And for the record where I stand. there is a TOTAL of ONE player that I would not include in a package for Parsons. Only ONE - Josh Allen. It’s really not. If everything was feasible then he wouldn’t be having any problems in Dallas. That said, I’d give up a lot for an Edge of Parsons’ caliber, age and impact. Tho I have major concerns about him in the Bills locker room. Still, a pass rusher like him would make a bigger impact on this team than any current player, save one. But financially it is almost impossible this season. The Bills have already decided where to spend their money and cap space and even with restructuring Dawkins and Knox they will just have enough space to make it through the season. Even if they were to lower his 2025 cap hit from the $24M it is now with an extension, it would still mean some drastic moves like trading Dawkins and/or Knox instead of restructuring them. Possibly cutting Milano as well. There really aren’t many any other places to get the space at this point. A number of posters here think the cap is meaningless. It’s not. We see it’s impact on some teams every season. That doesn’t even address the cash aspect. the Bills are second in cash spend this season, only about $250k from the top spot. I doubt the Bills are going to drop another huge chunk of cash on a signing bonus for Parsons. 1 Quote
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