Eagles survey season ticket holders about building a new domed stadium.

[fergie's ire]

I also want the Bills to be playing on natural grass for injury reasons.  It's possible to have natural grass if the roof or the field is retractable, but either is expensive.  I think the new stadium has the best of both worlds.  There should be next to no wind, the field is natural but also heated so it won't be hard as a rock.  Also, just inside the 15 year window is Lumen Field which replaced an indoor stadium.  In Seattle, fans didn't like going indoors if the weather was nice because being outside in good weather is such a rare opportunity in Seattle.  Sure, they're dealing with rain and not freezing cold, but being outside at a game in the fall is a wonderful experience so being comfortable in cold weather games comes with the trade-off of losing that outdoor fall experience.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, uticaclub said:

MetLife Stadium in New Jersey

 

2 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Levi Stadium (49ers) and MetLife (Jets/Giants) aren't open air? Perhaps you meant the past 10 years:  U.S. Bank (Vikings), Mercedes (Falcons), Allegiant (Raiders) and SoFi (Chargers/Rams).  And Vikings, Falcons and Rams had already played indoors. 

 

2 hours ago, Just Jack said:

 

Two out of six, the New Jersey stadium and 49er's stadium are open air. Going back to 2000, 8 out of the 17 stadiums built were open air. And now with Cleveland, Tennesse, Washington, and Chicago, that'll be four more stadiums going from open air to closed roof.  

 

List of current NFL stadiums - Wikipedia

to me, met life was the effective end of the open door stadium. It’s one of the worst stadiums and biggest mistakes. 
 

I guess you might have outliers like Levi, but my understanding is that there was some issues with FAA regs in building a higher stadium. Also, now they are doing billions in renovations! 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, chris heff said:

This is a legitimate question, if there had been a dome in Buffalo, do you think those games would have still been played in Detroit?

They played in Detroit a day or two later. They could have stayed in Buffalo if the field wasn't buried.

[SinceThe70s]

46 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 

 

to me, met life was the effective end of the open door stadium. It’s one of the worst stadiums and biggest mistakes. 
 

I guess you might have outliers like Levi, but my understanding is that there was some issues with FAA regs in building a higher stadium. Also, now they are doing billions in renovations! 

 

That football team in western New York would argue otherwise.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

4 hours ago, chris heff said:

I think that the way stadiums are designed has changed in the last twenty years. The only new stadium I’ve been in is Mercedes Benz Stadium, it is nice, it’s not just seats, concessions and rest rooms. There are amenities, you can sit at a table and eat and see the field. It just felt more comfortable.

I’d rather drink from the bleachers.

[PromoTheRobot]

On 7/26/2025 at 10:16 AM, HaldimandBills said:

The way things are going Buffalo and Green Bay are going to be the only open aired stadiums with a grass field in the Northeast and Midwest. I love that. Will be unique and Bills Mafia will continue to be the working mans experience during Bills games. Eagles games like many other teams will become a non intimidating wine and cheese crowd. I want a loud, rowdy, passionate, but sane Bills crowd at home games. Corporate America is slowly killing what made so many things in the USA special by pandering to the elites. 

 

I guess I am not a wuss like many others on here. The partial roof and height of the field is going to eliminate most of the elements as is. 

 

Dome only made sense downtown.

 

As much I appreciate that sentiment, after the 5-degree Pats playoff game, I'm not sure I want to experience that again. I survived but my friend had real difficulty with the cold. Going to a Bills game shouldn't be like an expedition to the Arctic. Not at my age.

 

I selected my seat in the new stadium with the hope those heated concourses will waft down just enough to make 5 feel like 25-30 where I sit. 

Edited July 27 by PromoTheRobot

[Kirby Jackson]

5 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I do wonder why that is? 30 years seems to be the target now when in the past teams would typically do renovations around 25-30 years and do a replacement after 40-50.

 

 You think a stadium built 20-25 years ago has the ability to be renovated to keep up with the times nor would it be all that outdated to begin with. The Super dome gets renovations every 5-8 years and it’s hosting Super Bowls 

I think that things change so quickly now in terms of how fans consume games, replacement will be the new norm instead of renovation.
 

The Superdome is a bit of an anomaly. The location makes it as valuable as it is. There isn’t land right there to build a new one. If they were to do it, the location would be worse. There was talk once of moving it to the Northshore. That’s an affluent part of SELA but you have to cross a 26 mile bridge to get there. That’s not feasible. MAYBE, they could build something over by the convention center but ingress and egress would be a nightmare. In the current location, the hotels, party areas, including Bourbon St. are all within a mile of the stadium. When New Orleans hosts events people never get into a car. You don’t worry about UBER or public transportation. You walk everywhere because it’s so close. It’s one-of-a-kind and why they will probably always renovate. They just put another $560M into it. That’s not how the stadium is in Vegas or LA or Miami or NY or any of the other party cities. There’s a reason that New Orleans is the greatest host city in the world. 

[QCity]

4 hours ago, chris heff said:

This is a legitimate question, if there had been a dome in Buffalo, do you think those games would have still been played in Detroit?

 

It's not a legitimate question to anyone that actually lives in WNY and experienced those storms first-hand.

 

They absolutely still would have been played in Detroit.

 

 

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, QCity said:

 

It's not a legitimate question to anyone that actually lives in WNY and experienced those storms first-hand.

 

They absolutely still would have been played in Detroit.

 

 

I grew up in Tonawanda.

[Buffalo716]

9 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

it’s actually the way of the past too. No NFL team has been building open air stadiums for the last 15 years. Just a total waste of money and sub par fan and player experience. Terrible investment by Buffalo.

Every single NFL stadium study has shown stadiums are not investments for communities 

 

 the return is about that of a new Target.. 

 

The best dome in the world Jerry world has about nine planned events for the entire year 

 

Buffalo wouldn't get nine.. every stadium study says it moves the needle about as much as a brand new Target 

 

Which is not much

 

 putting maybe another billion dollars on taxpayers to pay for the dome in New York state is not the way

Edited July 26 by Buffalo716

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Every single NFL stadium study has shown stadiums are not investments for communities 

 

 the return is about that of a new Target.. 

 

The best dome in the world Jerry world has about nine planned events for the entire year 

 

Buffalo wouldn't get nine.. every stadium study says it moves the needle about as much as a brand new Target 

 

Which is not much

 

 putting maybe another billion dollars on taxpayers to pay for the dome in New York state is not the way

True. I think all NFL stadiums pretty much have very low or negative return on investment. But I think Indy and Minnesota are the models on how you make the roof stadiums at least a better ROI. 
 

I said this from Day 1, but my hope was that the Bills would have built a more modest and cost-effective indoor stadium, patterned after Lucas Oil. Oh, well. The ship has sailed. 

[chris heff]

5 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I’d rather drink from the bleachers.

I said eat, not drink, drinking in the bleachers is great, but I like to sit at a table when eating.

[chris heff]

Speaking of open air stadiums that suck, the NFL Network kicked off their coverage of training camps from Foxborough. You know, home of the Patriots, the team that finished last in the AFC East last season. Charles Davis and Rhett Lewis were the anchor announcers. They could have been in Philadelphia or Detroit, both were covered today, but nope there they were in Foxborough. 

[stuvian]

It is not a world of men, machine.

The NFL greed machine wants us to keep paying PSL fees. On that note, why does Cleveland need a new stadium?

Edited July 27 by stuvian

[Sierra Foothills]

32 minutes ago, stuvian said:

On that note, why does Cleveland need a new stadium?

 

Right?

 

25 years old...

 

When a municipality invests hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for a stadium, there should be some legal condition pertaining to the lifespan of that structure.

 

 

[US Egg]

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

The best dome in the world Jerry world has about nine planned events for the entire year 

I doubt that.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, US Egg said:

I doubt that.

Well it's true lol 

[US Egg]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Well it's true lol 

AT&T Stadium hosts around 30 marquee events annually, in addition to Dallas Cowboys NFL games, according to Extenet.This includes concerts, basketball games, soccer matches, college and high school football games, rodeos, motocross, and professional wrestling. The stadium also serves as a venue for the Cotton Bowl Classic, the Big 12 Championship Game, and the Southwest Classic. 
 

But you’ll argue anyway…..

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, stuvian said:

It is not a world of men, machine.

The NFL greed machine wants us to keep paying PSL fees. On that note, why does Cleveland need a new stadium?

 

I'm sure there is some greed involved but PSL's are really small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. Take the Bills stadium. I'm just guessing that $2,000 is the average PSL cost for 60K seats. That's $120MM out of $2.2B. But if you can build a stadium with bars restaurants, casinos and sportsbooks, etc. Now you're talking. Pretty soon football will be a sidelight in these Disneyworld stadiums.

[Buffalo716]

15 minutes ago, US Egg said:

AT&T Stadium hosts around 30 marquee events annually, in addition to Dallas Cowboys NFL games, according to Extenet.This includes concerts, basketball games, soccer matches, college and high school football games, rodeos, motocross, and professional wrestling. The stadium also serves as a venue for the Cotton Bowl Classic, the Big 12 Championship Game, and the Southwest Classic. 
 

But you’ll argue anyway…..

Well besides the point that I'm on their actual website with all of their listed dates 

 

They have about eight events left not counting Dallas cowboys football games through the end of the season.. it was 11 non-dallas or football events through all of 2025 counting the upcoming dates .. concerts, basketball events, I'm not counting  any football at all.. I'm talking other types of shows

 

There's definitely not 35 non football events booked for Jerry world I'm on the website

 

2024 head like 15 non football dates whether concert or basketball or a convention

 

And that's the best stadium in the world

 

Even the Ralph hosts section 6 playoffs lol do you want to count that for making money for the Ralph? Because they get seven other games lol

Edited July 27 by Buffalo716