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18 minutes ago, sunshynman said:

 

Nico is the only proven. And he was hurt some last year. Other than that, they probably in the same situation at WR as the Bills and Stroud is not Allen. 

Christian Kirk had 2000 yards between 2021 and 2022.  What do you consider to be “proven”?

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1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Christian Kirk had 2000 yards between 2021 and 2022.  What do you consider to be “proven”?

Not lately, No. 

 

Chase, Jefferson ... are proven.

Shakir, Nico ... similar are next tier. 

Then there is the rest. 

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Posted
59 minutes ago, sunshynman said:

Not lately, No. 

 

Chase, Jefferson ... are proven.

Shakir, Nico ... similar are next tier. 

Then there is the rest. 

Chase and Jefferson are “proven” lol.  No- they are elite superstars 

 

Nico and Shakir are not in the same tier.  Maybe they’re in your same tier, but there are zero non bills fans that would agree with that.  Collins is a star.  If he avoids injury this year, you’ll agree.

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Posted
2 hours ago, sunshynman said:

 

Nico is the only proven. And he was hurt some last year. Other than that, they probably in the same situation at WR as the Bills and Stroud is not Allen. 

Just replying to the no receivers post. They do. Christian Kirk not great but also not bad

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58 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Chase and Jefferson are “proven” lol.  No- they are elite superstars 

 

Nico and Shakir are not in the same tier.  Maybe they’re in your same tier, but there are zero non bills fans that would agree with that.  Collins is a star.  If he avoids injury this year, you’ll agree.

They are close. Nico has an extra year, and he's been targeted as a #1 the whole time. If the Shakir was used more early on, they might be more even. 

 

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38 minutes ago, nucci said:

Just replying to the no receivers post. They do. Christian Kirk not great but also not bad

Obviously that have some receivers. Nico being their best. But I would put the others as in the same situation as what the Bills have. And I will grant we don't have a #1 that would be Nico. That was Digg 3 years ago. 

 

Their oline losses are going to be worse for that offense in my opinion. They went from one of the best olines to lots of questions there. 

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2 minutes ago, sunshynman said:

They are close. Nico has an extra year, and he's been targeted as a #1 the whole time. If the Bills used Shakir was used more early on, they might be more even. 

 

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If Shakir was as good as Brown it would likely be more even.  He isn’t. But you’re certainly entitled to think he is 

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7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

If Shakir was as good as Brown it would likely be more even.  He isn’t. But you’re certainly entitled to think he is 

Only because we didn't use him correctly the first couple years. He is close to Collins. He just hasn't had the opportunities Collins has had. 

 

At this point Shakir is younger and better than Kirk.

 

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It will come down to Stroud being able to improvise as well as Allen for them. And the oline issues they have, are not going to help. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I’m betting our “performance” against him helped solidify this somewhat.  
 

Great story. 
 

 

It's a hedge against Caleb and injury. But it might become an issue if Caleb starts to struggle in his second season, with a new coach/system. Good for Tyson getting some. Clip board holder is one of the best jobs there is in the NFL.

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Posted
1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Chase and Jefferson are “proven” lol.  No- they are elite superstars 

 

Nico and Shakir are not in the same tier.  Maybe they’re in your same tier, but there are zero non bills fans that would agree with that.  Collins is a star.  If he avoids injury this year, you’ll agree.


Fair point. He’s definitley above Shakir. That Texans game proved it. He went out injured after that deep ball and the offense almost fell apart without him. 
 

Agree he’s a star, albeit a rising one. 

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7 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Is Dolac any better than Buffalo Joe? 

 

6 hours ago, Brand J said:

I’ve never watched UB football, but posters here have said Dolac was much better than Andreesen.

 

I'm not one to say if Dolac is better than Buffalo Joe but I've heard that he is and he's a more decorated player... two-time All MAC, MAC Defensive Player of the Year and consensus All-American for Dolac versus FCS All-American honors for Andreessen.

 

Also the reports from Los Angeles is that Dolac's looking good with the Rams.

 

Regarding Buffalo Joe, no player is a better example of how bi-polar this forum is.

 

Two weeks ago he was an ascending player and today he's a special teams player at best.

 

Personally I think Buffalo Joe has great promise and will continue to improve... and it wouldn't surprise me if he was a starter someday, somewhere.

 

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Posted
5 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I’m betting our “performance” against him helped solidify this somewhat.  
 

Great story. 
 

 

Beane held a seminar while in Chicago: Second Contracts: Be Generous, and Your Team Will Reap the Rewards.

24 minutes ago, syhuang said:

This is ....... interesting??

 

 

 

Well, when you look at results when the owner, GM, and coaching staff runs things in New York, might as well let the inmates run the asylum.

Posted
33 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Depth/Rotational Player level trades all over the place today. 
 

 

What on earth are the saints doing? That fourth round pick could be like 10 spots outside of the third round at the top of the day on Saturday morning.

 

and then how did Denver get them to throw in a 7th rounder also?  
 

good lord.

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Posted
1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

What on earth are the saints doing? That fourth round pick could be like 10 spots outside of the third round at the top of the day on Saturday morning.

 

and then how did Denver get them to throw in a 7th rounder also?  
 

good lord.

Some owners won’t let a team rebuild.

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