Dolphins trade Jalen Ramsey/Jonnu Smith to Steelers for Minkah Fitzpatrick, picks, per Ian Rap.

[TheWeatherMan]

If only these teams had a competent QB they might have a chance.  

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Fitzpatrick either isn’t an impact player anymore or he was criminally underutilized in Pittsburgh.

 

I think this trade makes more sense for Pittsburgh— at least you have three lock down man corners and a good rush. 

[MAJBobby]

I don’t understand this trade other than personality and cap management. 
 

Steelers likely got maybe better in the secondary. Ramsey at this point is debatable better than Slay or Porter. And a step down at Safety. 
 

got a much better move TE with Smith so that helps that offense. 
 

mia got worse. Added a malcontent into the safety room with a lot of young depth. Lost their top CB with zero other real boundary CBs on the roster and lost their TE1 that actually was highly effective for them after years of looking for an effective TE. 
 

Mia got worse here and Steelers treaded water. 
 

 

historically good FO in terms of talent e v a l in Steelers vs Historically bad FO in talent e v a l Mia. 
 

Mia just made their team worse. Get ready for more force feeding of Tyreek as he demanded this offseason. 

Edited 9 hours ago by MAJBobby

[wjag]

Steelers must know something.  Minkah might just be Minkanht

[chris heff]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Didn't Fitzpatrick get traded the other way a few years back because, in part, he hated being in Miami?

Yes, Dolphins drafted Fitzpatrick with 11th pick in 2018 and traded him to Steelers in 2019. It was different head coaches, but same GM, Chris Grier, who made those moves and this one. I’d be surprised if McDaniel and Grier survive this season.

Edited 6 hours ago by chris heff

[JerseyBills]

Surprised they got rid of Jonnu . He seemed to be key piece in that O and turned his career around 

1 minute ago, chris heff said:

Yes, Dolphins drafted Fitzpatrick with 11th pick in 2018 and traded him to Steelers in 2019. It was different head coaches, but same GM, Chris Grier, who made those moves and this one. I’d be surprised if McDonald and Grier survive this season.

Extremely odd

[chris heff]

6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Surprised they got rid of Jonnu . He seemed to be key piece in that O and turned his career around 

Extremely odd

Truly 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

This is all about Pitt trying to put it together for a run in a brutal division with two elite QBs whose teams are also all in. They're all in, collecting stud boundary athletes like Metcalf and Ramsey so that they can a) actually play man with conviction on D and b) win regularly on the outside on offense with a near-impossible-to-cover-completely specimen.  Ramsey basically forced his way out, and the Dolphins took what they could get, which wasn't much.

 

 

Yeah Pittsburgh getting a little better and Miami getting a little worse is certainly good for Buffalo.  

 

As always, the Bills likely need to avoid the typical McDermott mid-season swoon to earn home field and the bye for the first time.........but if the Chiefs and Ravens can go 4-2 in division that could be the difference.  

[Doc]

Glad 2 productive players are gone for Miami and they get Fitzpatrick (back) who didn't like Miami and won't be as good playing behind Miami's front 7.

 

And by the time the Bills play the Steelers, Mason Rudolph should be starting...

[Pete]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Didn't Fitzpatrick get traded the other way a few years back because, in part, he hated being in Miami?

Poyer hated being a Dolphin!  He said they constantly bring up how Bills were 0-70s against Fins.  He said it was pathetic and last year sucked 

[Delete_Delete_Delete]

4 hours ago, mushypeaches said:

Meh - two teams that are gonna be weekly residents of that "In The Hunt" graphic all year

That’s being awfully generous to the Fish, I think they’ll be drafting top 5 next year. Pretty void of any elite talent, Hill is about to be dust, his fall off relying on sheer speed will be precipitous. Plus McDaniel has lost the team.  He’s a smart guy, good offensive mind, definitely not a head coach in the NFL however. Things are going to get ugly down there quick.

They’d be smart to trade Reek and whoever else they can now while they still hold some value, rather than taking bargain basement deals come week 7 or 8.

Steelers you are right, still going to be hovering between 8-11 wins, like they do every season. This trade and Rodgers don’t move the needle in that division. 

[dhg]

Stupid trade. $26.6m for Ramsey? Between that and that jerk Rodgers, good luck with that.

[JP51]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

It is good for the Bills. Last year we had trouble separating outside, and one of our division rivals now has nobody that can cover outside. Bills fans have an unduly negative opinion of Ramsey because of comments he made in the past about Allen. He is no longer in his prime but he is still a very good outside CB. In our matchups last year our WRs couldn't do anything against him.

and Jonnu Smith I am sorry but he was pretty clutch against us I am happy he is gone. 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, JP51 said:

and Jonnu Smith I am sorry but he was pretty clutch against us I am happy he is gone. 

 

I didn't realize he had 884 receiving yards last year.

[JP51]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

I don’t understand this trade other than personality and cap management. 
 

Steelers likely got maybe better in the secondary. Ramsey at this point is debatable better than Slay or Porter. And a step down at Safety. 
 

got a much better move TE with Smith so that helps that offense. 
 

mia got worse. Added a malcontent into the safety room with a lot of young depth. Lost their top CB with zero other real boundary CBs on the roster and lost their TE1 that actually was highly effective for them after years of looking for an effective TE. 
 

Mia got worse here and Steelers treaded water. 
 

 

historically good FO in terms of talent e v a l in Steelers vs Historically bad FO in talent e v a l Mia. 
 

Mia just made their team worse. Get ready for more force feeding of Tyreek as he demanded this offseason. 

I have no idea why they let go of Smith here... maybe Cap, maybe attitude but an almost 900 yd TE with an ageing 1WR and an always injured 2WR and I am not sure what they were thinking other than getting themselves in CAP shape..  they bit a big chunk signing Tua... 

10 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I didn't realize he had 884 receiving yards last year.

I know right... he seemed to have good games against us and is brutal to bring down in the 2ndry... 

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I have no idea why they let go of Smith here... maybe Cap, maybe attitude but an almost 900 yd TE with an ageing 1WR and an always injured 2WR and I am not sure what they were thinking other than getting themselves in CAP shape..  they bit a big chunk signing Tua... 

I know right... he seemed to have good games against us and is brutal to bring down in the 2ndry... 

 

He's bounced around a lot the last 5 years.  Probably wears out his welcome fast.

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

He's bounced around a lot the last 5 years.  Probably wears out his welcome fast.

I agree I am thinking there were reasons other than football 

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I agree I am thinking there were reasons other than football 

 

Have never heard about any off-field incidents.

[JP51]

Just now, Doc said:

 

Have never heard about any off-field incidents.

No I was meaning like locker room stuff.. cause I didnt see issue on the field. 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, JP51 said:

No I was meaning like locker room stuff.. cause I didnt see issue on the field. 

 

Oh.  Could be.