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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s amazing to me how many people seem to loathe other people just because they’re successful. People are people no matter of their portfolio status. 

What independent reporting have you done to dispute The Athletics’ article?

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3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Actually Terry spent like a drunk sailor when he first bought the team.


Yea, 14 years ago. Since COVID he stripped things down to a skeleton crew. That’s actually part of why Adams got the job. He was willing to be the hatchet man.

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Posted
31 minutes ago, FireChans said:

What independent reporting have you done to dispute The Athletics’ article?

Here's my research:

Are you a different person because of the amount of money that you either have or don't have? I'm guessing not. 

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11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Here's my research:

Are you a different person because of the amount of money that you either have or don't have? I'm guessing not. 

What

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Posted
23 hours ago, Doc said:


LOL. It was your analogy. Anyway…
 

Yeah, that’s what it means. I had already discussed the coaching situation and everyone knows that Whaley was replaced by McBeane in 2017.
 

Is that all you have?  Or were you including Russ Brandon, who lasted until May 2018, but had been relegated back to the marketing department for over a year by then?

In any case, it’s silly to harp on the first two full years of their ownership (they were awarded the team in October 2014 so they had no control over that season ) when the last eight have been incredibly successful and the next decade is looking good as well. 

 

now that you mention it, it's been only "a minute" since the Sabres were in the playoffs!

 

but yeah, it took Pegula 3 long years to wake up and dump Whaley and Russ.  the time did not pass quickly.

 

Also, Buffalo Bill did not ****** those victims in the pit: he made clothing out of them...so analogy was on point.

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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

now that you mention it, it's been only "a minute" since the Sabres were in the playoffs!

 

but yeah, it took Pegula 3 long years to wake up and dump Whaley and Russ.  the time did not pass quickly.

 

Also, Buffalo Bill did not ****** those victims in the pit: he made clothing out of them...so analogy was on point.


Yeah, yeah, the Sabres suck. Old news and I wish it were just for “a minute.”  But It’s funny you care about them since you used to think that the NHL was a joke of a sports league.

 

Terry inherited the 2014 team and they went 9-7, which was their best record in a decade, and they were in the playoff hunt until the final week of the season. There wasn’t going to be a change until Marrone pulled his stunt and Terry made the right move not giving into his demands  Whaley was given more time and that and Rex Ryan were admittedly mistakes.  So again, two years of error followed by what should be almost two decades of success are not even worth mentioning. 

 

And what I quoted was what Buffalo Bill was saying to himself in the mirror in that scene to which you are referring. But do you really want to keep using the analogy where you’re the murderous psycho tranny, who gets killed at the end wearing night vision goggles in a basement full of butterflies?
 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

now that you mention it, it's been only "a minute" since the Sabres were in the playoffs!

 

but yeah, it took Pegula 3 long years to wake up and dump Whaley and Russ.  the time did not pass quickly.

 

Also, Buffalo Bill did not ****** those victims in the pit: he made clothing out of them...so analogy was on point.

 

Imagine describing somebody as being "relagated to the marketing side" when he's literally the President of two pro sports franchises owned by a guy who proudly wears "flat management structure" on his sleeve. 

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3 hours ago, Mango said:

 

You think 20k people didn't see Pegula in his box watching? That's what we're leaning on?

 

Hopefully one day we can be unsure if Terry is in attendance for a Stanley Cup (LoL) or Super Bowl. Because the leagues and leadership between the three leagues are so similar, lolz.

 

I was at the last Bandits final. I didn't bother to look. I was busy celebrating.

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Here's my research:

Are you a different person because of the amount of money that you either have or don't have? I'm guessing not. 

 

That Athletics article never actually cited any instance of Terry doing something that hurt the team. It was basically: a) he's around the team a lot. b) unnamed sources say that isn't good. c) "hamster wheel."

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2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Here's my research:

Are you a different person because of the amount of money that you either have or don't have? I'm guessing not. 


I see you have spent very little time around rich kids.

they are ABSOLUTELY different


But aside from that, what makes you think Pegula is some humble great guy? What ever gave you that impression?

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1 hour ago, Mango said:

Imagine describing somebody as being "relagated to the marketing side" when he's literally the President of two pro sports franchises owned by a guy who proudly wears "flat management structure" on his sleeve. 


Do you think that Russ Brandon had any significant duties with respect to scouting, acquiring, or coaching players after McBeane came on board? 

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1 minute ago, Einstein said:


I see you have spent very little time around rich kids.

they are ABSOLUTELY different


But aside from that, what makes you think Pegula is some humble great guy? What ever gave you that impression?


Lol, yea. Even nice rich people are pretty different.

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56 minutes ago, Einstein said:


I see you have spent very little time around rich kids.

they are ABSOLUTELY different


But aside from that, what makes you think Pegula is some humble great guy? What ever gave you that impression?

Geez….spend much time practicing all that stereotyping or does it come naturally? And no, I have no idea what kind of a guy Terry is, and I’d bet you don’t either. 

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16 hours ago, Mango said:

 

Imagine describing somebody as being "relagated to the marketing side" when he's literally the President of two pro sports franchises owned by a guy who proudly wears "flat management structure" on his sleeve. 

 

It was surprising to me, that after his early struggles and mis-steps with the Sabres, Terry Pegula went through the process and purchased the Sabres 'cold'.  

 

If it were me, or anyone with a half of a brain, proactively, they would have had/employed people to analyze the organization on many/most fronts.  Perform a ground game around the sport and find prospective new staff.  This was an organization in a decade-plus playoff drought.  I was shocked when Pegula came in and just allowed Russ Brandon to continue presidenting because he knew his way around the building during the purchase/auction process.  The entire Bills world wanted/needed this guy kicked to the curb.   

 

It shouldnt take a few years of figuring it out.  Russ Brandon was the harbinger of the Bills' failures.

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15 hours ago, Mango said:

 

Imagine describing somebody as being "relagated to the marketing side" when he's literally the President of two pro sports franchises owned by a guy who proudly wears "flat management structure" on his sleeve. 

 

for doc, truth is conceptual and only sometimes indicated.

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15 hours ago, Mango said:

 

Imagine describing somebody as being "relagated to the marketing side" when he's literally the President of two pro sports franchises owned by a guy who proudly wears "flat management structure" on his sleeve. 

I assume your problem is with the word ‘relegated’? It’s not at all uncommon for a high level corporate officer to have come from a specific specialty (ie marketing) within the company.
 

BTW: “President” is a corporate title required by law to be named once you declare yourself to be a corporation for tax purposes. It does NOT mean that you’re everyone’s boss. 

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15 hours ago, Doc said:


Yeah, yeah, the Sabres suck. Old news and I wish it were just for “a minute.”  But It’s funny you care about them since you used to think that the NHL was a joke of a sports league.

 

Terry inherited the 2014 team and they went 9-7, which was their best record in a decade, and they were in the playoff hunt until the final week of the season. There wasn’t going to be a change until Marrone pulled his stunt and Terry made the right move not giving into his demands  Whaley was given more time and that and Rex Ryan were admittedly mistakes.  So again, two years of error followed by what should be almost two decades of success are not even worth mentioning.  

 

And what I quoted was what Buffalo Bill was saying to himself in the mirror in that scene to which you are referring. But do you really want to keep using the analogy where you’re the murderous psycho tranny, who gets killed at the end wearing night vision goggles in a basement full of butterflies?
 

 

 

Sabres have only sucked for (doc math) 4 minutes.  no big deal!

 

"almost 2 decades of success"?  well, hopefully Josh can keep it going that long.  He is the singular reason for the turnaround.  Only held back from the ultimate prize by a HC who struggles when it counts and (otherwise) endless coaching churn as McD evades ultimate accountability. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Sabres have only sucked for (doc math) 4 minutes.  no big deal!

 

"almost 2 decades of success"?  well, hopefully Josh can keep it going that long.  He is the singular reason for the turnaround.  Only held back from the ultimate prize by a HC who struggles when it counts and (otherwise) endless coaching churn as McD evades ultimate accountability. 

Let me jump in and settle it….The Sabres suck and have for way too long. 😉

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