ComradeKayAdams Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) On 6/24/2025 at 3:02 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: No, no additional technical questions for your father at this time. A couple non-tech questions: Does your father share your view of the Israeli people and leadership? Does he view the regime as genocidal, war criminals etc and support dragging them off to an international court? Does he view the dismantling of Israel as we know it, reimagined into the two state solution as the only reasonable outcome to address the traumas of the past? Jesus, Kay, I already said this. I enjoy reading some of your posts but suggest efficiency might be your friend. Easy breezy: You’re asking the wrong question. My answer: Wear the white one, it suits your complexion, will reduce the potential for flop sweating in the summer heat, and remember that just enough accessorizing is found at the intersection of “That looks nice” and “If this car goes into a lake you gon’ drown girl”. These things and others I’ve learned over a lifetime of observing people, and you are very welcome. Believe it or not, he’s not stridently political like I am and doesn’t normally discuss politics with me over the phone. We talk a lot more about the respective states of the Bills (yay!) and Sabres (ugh!). Having said that, I can tell you that my dad remains a long-time two-state solution guy and only very recently began to acknowledge the genocide in Gaza (sometime around April of this year). He was especially close to his Jewish maternal grandfather, which I personally believe has compromised his ability to rationally assess the present situation. I’ve been a one-stater (a.k.a. an advocate for the peaceful dissolution of a Jewish supremacist ethnostate) for the past two years, as you know, and have called out the genocide and the far-right Greater Israel project since they bombed the first Gazan hospital (November 2023?). Now…let’s get to your pop quiz… << pulls out red pen >> << shakes head disapprovingly >> For starters, Leh-nerd, it is not a good strategy to question the writing “efficiency” of your quiz grader. What could be more “efficient” than a simple one-question math quiz to assess the health of a multi-year forum friendship?? Looking over your answer, you clearly did not take the quiz very seriously… Ugh, let’s just get to the answer key… KAY’S OFFICIAL POP QUIZ ANSWER KEY: STEP 1: Note the Cauchy red herring! Your clue that mathematical mischief is afoot! Why the heck would you need to integrate over the complex number plane, Leh-nerd?? This is a first-grade math problem, dude. STEP 2: Note the extraneous sartorial information provided. I would NEVER be caught in public wearing a frumpy Hillary Clinton warmonger pantsuit. A mathematical possibility of precisely 0%. You’re supposed to know that about me, Leh-nerd…the quiz raison d’etre… STEP 3: 2 * 4.5 = 2 * (9/2) = 9 blazer dresses. Put away your Boomery slide rule/abacus/sundial, Leh-nerd, and focus. STEP 4: 9 / 1.8 = 9 / (9/5) = 5 skirt suits. OH MY GOD, Leh-nerd. I’m not asking you to solve a Millennium Prize Problem, bruh. Stop whining… STEP 5: 9 + 5 + 2 = 16 distinct formal business outfits. 16 > 10. Take off your socks, Leh-nerd, if you need help counting higher than 10. STEP 6: 16 / 5 = 3.2 weeks (also acceptable answer: a truncation to 3 weeks). QED,L. Quod. Effin.’ Demonstrandum. Leh-nerd. Hmmm…but your remark about my complexion was surprisingly on point! How astute! Very light colors DO work well with the grossly pale white hue that I maintain for almost the entire year. Also acceptable color alternative: anything red to match the natural facial blush from the summer heat. Wow! You passed, Leh-nerd! Who knew that a lifetime of totally fu*king around in math class chasing floozies would somehow pay off for you in the biggest test of your life?? Our forum friendship is saved! Yay! << steps forward to hug Leh-nerd >> << trips over discarded pile of 4 frumpy Hillary Clinton warmonger pantsuits >> << extended arms create a punching motion that strikes Leh-nerd in the face >> << Leh-nerd too unconscious to consciously note the situational irony >> EDIT: Spelling mistake: “assess,” not “access.” Edited 3 hours ago by ComradeKayAdams 1 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) "There's not such thing as a winnable war" anymore, it seems. We should have learned that in the last 50 years. If we set the Iranians back several years, this particular intervention was likely worth it. If not, we wasted other peoples blood and our treasure supporting Israel. If they think they can finish the job, let them but without our help. If they don't, diplomacy is the best hope. Edited 9 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 16 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: If Israel wants to be certain the sites and the nuclear material and enrichment equipment have been destroyed they're going to have to send in ground forces. And even Israel is admitting Iran can get a bomb, its just the time line being debated, but this is far from over. They will probably have to launch a commando raid at some point
JDHillFan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 10 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Nice deflection. But every word I said is true and, as usual, you can't respond on the merits. Trump plays golf, posts on Twitter, does a little red meat stuff here and there, but is of no depth, consequence, or result. None of your predicted disasters have materialized. It’s easy to vomit something up about eating cats, border walls, and golfing. Get back to me when you get something right.
Doc Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: None of your predicted disasters have materialized. It’s easy to vomit something up about eating cats, border walls, and golfing. Get back to me when you get something right. Don’t forget HCQ (while defending masking, social distancing, lockdowns and riots/protests with a straight face). Edited 9 hours ago by Doc 1
sherpa Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Well, it is underground, the bombs might have hit the wrong spot. They didn't "hit the wrong spot." They hit exactly what was intended, and followed it up seconds later with another, again, exactly what was intended and what the physics suggested. 32 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: ... If we set the Iranians back several years, this particular intervention was likely worth it. If not, we wasted other peoples blood and our treasure supporting Israel. Nonsense. 1 2
SectionC3 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: None of your predicted disasters have materialized. It’s easy to vomit something up about eating cats, border walls, and golfing. Get back to me when you get something right. Hoax. Everything I said was right. At least this time you didn't default to "cope and seethe." That's an improvement. Although it would be better if you'd simply say that this guy sold us a bill of goods and hasn't done anything of consequence, aside from proposing to inflate the national debt and otherwise wasting money on a parade and a hamfisted deployment that was completely unnecessary, since he got into office. 1 hour ago, Doc said: Don’t forget HCQ (while defending masking, social distancing, lockdowns and riots/protests with a straight face). Solid point. "Doc" returns to defend his HCQ BS. Looks like time told the truth on that one. Do we use HCQ to treat COVID today? Nope. Nice work pushing that junk science, "Doc."
SectionC3 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, JDHillFan said: I couldn’t even hazard a guess. That said, my thinking is that those who believe only minimal damage was caused by a dozen+ 30k lb bombs are kidding themselves. There's a big difference between "minimal" and "rendering the nuke program nonfunctional." If the goal was to cave in a few entrances but otherwise leave the facility untouched, and then impose a cease fire, but not get the enriched uranium, and allow Iran to rebuild its air defenses and nuke program after Mossad blew its cover on one of the finest intelligence operations in the history of the world, well, then, mission accomplished. 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: "There's not such thing as a winnable war" anymore, it seems. We should have learned that in the last 50 years. If we set the Iranians back several years, this particular intervention was likely worth it. If not, we wasted other peoples blood and our treasure supporting Israel. If they think they can finish the job, let them but without our help. If they don't, diplomacy is the best hope. But now the Iranians don't trust us because we used negotiations as a ruse. And now they know they need a bomb to keep the Israelis and us at bay. This whole thing was a big eff up unless Iran's nuke program was destroyed, which it does not seem to have been. 1 1 1
Doc Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Solid point. "Doc" returns to defend his HCQ BS. Looks like time told the truth on that one. Do we use HCQ to treat COVID today? Nope. Nice work pushing that junk science, "Doc." LOL! “ Time told on” what now? What actually got implemented (with no science behind it, much less controlled trials) and failed, “SectionC3”?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, sherpa said: Nonsense. What's your threshold for success on this mission? Delaying a deliverable nuke by 6 months, 1 year, 2 years? 10 minutes ago, Doc said: LOL! “ Time told on” what now? What actually got implemented (with no science behind it, much less controlled trials) and failed, “SectionC3”? The vax? The cdc under trump still highly recommends it https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness.html https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7304a2.htm If you're fat from basement dwelling it's especially important https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-06-covid-vaccine-severe-illness-death.html#google_vignette "The updated vaccines reduced the risk of ED and urgent care visits related to COVID-19 by 24%, hospitalizations by 29% and critical illness (intensive care unit admission or in-hospital death) by 48% during the first seven to 299 days after vaccination." Edited 7 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Believe it or not, he’s not stridently political like I am and doesn’t normally discuss politics with me over the phone. We talk a lot more about the respective states of the Bills (yay!) and Sabres (ugh!). Having said that, I can tell you that my dad remains a long-time two-state solution guy and only very recently began to acknowledge the genocide in Gaza (sometime around April of this year). He was especially close to his Jewish maternal grandfather, which I personally believe has compromised his ability to rationally access the present situation. I’ve been a one-stater (a.k.a. an advocate for the peaceful dissolution of a Jewish supremacist ethnostate) for the past two years, as you know, and have called out the genocide and the far-right Greater Israel project since they bombed the first Gazan hospital (November 2023?). Thanks, it helps to know what people think/believe on issues like this. I can understand your father’s devotion to his grandmother and how that might impact his view on this debate. Speaking from personal experience, much of what I think today is based on experiences with my grandparents, parents and people that meant a lot to me in the past. While that can negatively impact perspective, it can be liberating when those that came later, through different, and in some respects softer times seek to lecture about sins of the past, present and future. I’ll step away from that for now because in spite of our differences, anything further makes me feel sorta dirty as I delve into people I know nothing about. 1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Now…let’s get to your pop quiz… << pulls out red pen >> << shakes head disapprovingly >> For starters, Leh-nerd, it is not a good strategy to question the writing “efficiency” of your quiz grader. What could be more “efficient” than a simple one-question math quiz to access the health of a multi-year forum friendship?? Looking over your answer, you clearly did not take the quiz very seriously… Ugh, let’s just get to the answer key… KAY’S OFFICIAL POP QUIZ ANSWER KEY: STEP 1: Note the Cauchy red herring! Your clue that mathematical mischief is afoot! Why the heck would you need to integrate over the complex number plane, Leh-nerd?? This is a first-grade math problem, dude. STEP 2: Note the extraneous sartorial information provided. I would NEVER be caught in public wearing a frumpy Hillary Clinton warmonger pantsuit. A mathematical possibility of precisely 0%. You’re supposed to know that about me, Leh-nerd…the quiz raison d’etre… STEP 3: 2 * 4.5 = 2 * (9/2) = 9 blazer dresses. Put away your Boomery slide rule/abacus/sundial, Leh-nerd, and focus. STEP 4: 9 / 1.8 = 9 / (9/5) = 5 skirt suits. OH MY GOD, Leh-nerd. I’m not asking you to solve a Millennium Prize Problem, bruh. Stop whining… STEP 5: 9 + 5 + 2 = 16 distinct formal business outfits. 16 > 10. Take off your socks, Leh-nerd, if you need help counting higher than 10. STEP 6: 16 / 5 = 3.2 weeks (also acceptable answer: a truncation to 3 weeks). QED,L. Quod. Effin.’ Demonstrandum. Leh-nerd. Hmmm…but your remark about my complexion was surprisingly on point! How astute! Very light colors DO work well with the grossly pale white hue that I maintain for almost the entire year. Also acceptable color alternative: anything red to match the natural facial blush from the summer heat. Wow! You passed, Leh-nerd! Who knew that a lifetime of totally fu*king around in math class chasing floozies would somehow pay off for you in the biggest test of your life?? Our forum friendship is saved! Yay! << steps forward to hug Leh-nerd >> << trips over discarded pile of 4 frumpy Hillary Clinton warmonger pantsuits >> << extended arms create a punching motion that strikes Leh-nerd in the face >> << Leh-nerd too unconscious to consciously note the situational irony >> So, the white then… 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, sherpa said: They didn't "hit the wrong spot." They hit exactly what was intended, and followed it up seconds later with another, again, exactly what was intended and what the physics suggested. But did they know what they were hitting? First casualty of war, is the truth. Deception happens. Early assessment is this set them back a few months. If that's the case, this was a case of a half measure.
TH3 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Doc said: Not even remotely true. And even less true after Trump got NATO to pledge an additional $4 billion. Your right …Putin taunts him…fires offensives before phone calls…Netanyahu ignores him NATO pledged it….Trump complimented them….how do you get that he “got” them to do it? Talk about TDS dt is a small small child in a big boy job
muppy Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago greetings PPP. You KNOW Im going to cut to the chase in regards to questions I have. Opening to discussion 1. How can the USA prove the raw materials needed for nuclear weapons are destroyed. It's a yes, no answer I hope for. Maybe destroyed leaves conjecture 2. How will we know if this effort results in a regime change or Not. hmmm. General answers are okay. I know Noone down here is Yahweh 3. How long will this story be front and center due to actions of our government . Wether you support the bombing or support it with caveats or flat up didn't approve of it happening at all. to the 3rd I say as long as there is a middle east there will be DRAMA. And this thread could easily goo beyond 100 pages. that's what I think and hope to learn from interested parties today thanks m
Taro T Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, muppy said: greetings PPP. You KNOW Im going to cut to the chase in regards to questions I have. Opening to discussion 1. How can the USA prove the raw materials needed for nuclear weapons are destroyed. It's a yes, no answer I hope for. Maybe destroyed leaves conjecture 2. How will we know if this effort results in a regime change or Not. hmmm. General answers are okay. I know Noone down here is Yahweh 3. How long will this story be front and center due to actions of our government . Wether you support the bombing or support it with caveats or flat up didn't approve of it happening at all. to the 3rd I say as long as there is a middle east there will be DRAMA. And this thread could easily goo beyond 100 pages. that's what I think and hope to learn from interested parties today thanks m 1A. The only way to PROVE it is to inspect it. And personally expect any peace treaty coming out of this war will include an ability for either the US or Israel to inspect the actual bombed facilities (possibly technically through the auspices of a 3rd party like the UN or the IAEA but in either case am expecting that US &/or Israeli boots will be on the ground for that one). 1B. Likely the 60% uranium hexaflouride itself has not been destroyed, but it is also likely under several hundred feet of rock and debris. Would expect the centrifuges used to purify it likely are destroyed and are many of the Iranian scientists and engineers that oversaw and designed the purification operations. The only way to guarantee that the Iranians can't use that uranium is if somebody else takes possession of it. Expect that will be a key demand of the US/Israeli side in any peace agreement. 1C. Forgotten in all this talk of the bombing of the enrichment facilities is that the Israelis also did a number on the Iranians missile building capacity. Finding themselves back near square 1 on that front is another good thing that likely has come out of this kerfuffle. 2. Are the mullahs still in power? Then regime change still hasn't happened. Are they removed / dead? (Oviously not asked today as they aren't, but hopefully soon.) If yes, then regime change has happened. 3. No data. Won't even hazard a guess. 1
Big Blitz Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago Best foreign policy team since Washington. 1 2
Doc Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 51 minutes ago, TH3 said: Your right …Putin taunts him…fires offensives before phone calls…Netanyahu ignores him NATO pledged it….Trump complimented them….how do you get that he “got” them to do it? Talk about TDS dt is a small small child in a big boy job Yeah, the two previous “big boys” were really listened to by any of them… And are you joking about NATO? Who do you think got them to pledge more money? Do you think it just happened on its own? 🙄
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