Captain Hindsight Posted Thursday at 05:28 PM Posted Thursday at 05:28 PM 19 hours ago, Doc Brown said: All hope isn't lost. Watson said he's coming back from injury and he'll be better than ever. Can't be much worse! Quote
dorquemada Posted Thursday at 07:37 PM Posted Thursday at 07:37 PM 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: My prediction: Sanders the starter, Flacco the backup, Pickett to the PS. lmao, i hope so. What will Cleveland do with 1st pick overall next year then? Quote
GunnerBill Posted Thursday at 07:41 PM Posted Thursday at 07:41 PM 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: That doesn’t necessarily say a lot about any of those QBs, comes across as putting lipstick on a pig / polishing a turd, type of thing, lol. I am not trying to say a lot about them. I think Sanders is the best if a bad bunch. 1 Quote
Billy Claude Posted Thursday at 07:50 PM Posted Thursday at 07:50 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: My prediction: Sanders the starter, Flacco the backup, Pickett to the PS. What about Dillon Gabriel? The Browns used the 3rd round pick they got from the Bills for him. My guess is that they will try to trade Pickett for whatever they could get for him and go with Flacco, Gabriel, and Sanders. They won't risk putting Gabriel and Sanders through waivers where chances are pretty good someone will pick them up. Edited yesterday at 12:13 AM by Billy Claude Quote
Beck Water Posted Thursday at 08:49 PM Posted Thursday at 08:49 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: My prediction: Sanders the starter, Flacco the backup, Pickett to the PS. Heh. Flacco is "fools gold" as a QB at this point, IMO. He can still master the playbook and he knows where to go with each throw, so he looks great wearing a red jersey. But put him on the field with young fire-eaters coming full-speed-ahead for his liver and lungs, and it all falls apart. I could be wrong, but I don't think a team will manage to keep Pickett on the practice squad. Guy had a winning record, completed 63% of his passes, and threw more TDs than INT (though only slightly) in 2 years at Pittsburgh. If Cleveland wants to keep him as an option, they'll need to find a roster spot for him. Edit: Pittsburgh has a pretty storied history of good personnel decisions, but I have to wonder if Pickett isn't going to prove to be their Geno Smith. Edited Thursday at 09:31 PM by Beck Water 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted Thursday at 11:47 PM Posted Thursday at 11:47 PM 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: Heh. Flacco is "fools gold" as a QB at this point, IMO. He can still master the playbook and he knows where to go with each throw, so he looks great wearing a red jersey. But put him on the field with young fire-eaters coming full-speed-ahead for his liver and lungs, and it all falls apart. I could be wrong, but I don't think a team will manage to keep Pickett on the practice squad. Guy had a winning record, completed 63% of his passes, and threw more TDs than INT (though only slightly) in 2 years at Pittsburgh. If Cleveland wants to keep him as an option, they'll need to find a roster spot for him. Edit: Pittsburgh has a pretty storied history of good personnel decisions, but I have to wonder if Pickett isn't going to prove to be their Geno Smith. Picket had his issues in Pittsburgh, but for an organization that is known for being patient, they gave up on him pretty quickly. A year later, they are arguably the weakest QB depth chart in the league (and that’s saying something) Quote
Beck Water Posted yesterday at 12:39 AM Posted yesterday at 12:39 AM 43 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Picket had his issues in Pittsburgh, but for an organization that is known for being patient, they gave up on him pretty quickly. A year later, they are arguably the weakest QB depth chart in the league (and that’s saying something) I agree, Pitts. cut him loose quickly. It was a rather strange decision for a team that has been patient. I think there was (and is) a strong element of win-now-itis in Steeltown. Their defense is still good, but the core of their DL and other key players are getting long in the tooth. Greats TJ Watt and Cameron Heyward are well past 30. Fitzpatrick is 28. They had several other older starters (Ogunjobi, Roberts) who left in FA. Smith came in and believed he could rescusitate Russel Wilson and Get 'Er Done. Now he hopes he can get 'er done with .....Rodgers? Maybe? It's the model Denver rode to one Superbowl victory with the Ghost of Peyton Manning, after all, and fizzled on doing again with Wilson. Anyway, it's my impression that it may not have been "on" Pickett that a normally patient organization cut him loose. I could be wrong. But the same NFL teams that give chance after chance to veteran has-beens, will surely look hard at Pickett if he's cut and signed to a PS Quote
stuvian Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I remember all those SI articles about the Browns being a cutting edge Moneyball organization. We don't hear much about that anymore. I believe Jimmy Haslam has added QB Scout to his title. I suspect we'll see Flacco start the year. Once the Browns are eliminated, we'll see plenty of Shedeur and Gabriel. If the QB recycler Philadelphia Eagles have given up on Pickett after one season that tells me a lot. Now that Chubb is gone, they had better hope they struck gold at RB with Judkins. Their defense was world beating just a few years ago. Personally I feel sorry for the Bronny James and Shedeur Sanders of this world. They can never live up to expectations. Quote
Fleezoid Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 16 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Picket had his issues in Pittsburgh, but for an organization that is known for being patient, they gave up on him pretty quickly. A year later, they are arguably the weakest QB depth chart in the league (and that’s saying something) I was also initially puzzled as to why Pittsburgh is letting Rodgers slow-roll his decision to play. I believe it's simply because they'll be all in on a QB next year. Whether Rodgers plays this year or not, they know he'll only be good for a season......if that. If Rodgers doesn't play, they ride whoever they've got and wait for the draft. Quote
H2o Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 21 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: My prediction: Sanders the starter, Flacco the backup, Pickett to the PS. Someone would poach Pickett to be their backup. He may not be that good really, but the backup talent level is thin across the board. I think this will be the order: QB1 - Flacco QB2 - Sanders QB3 - Pickett (inactive on gamedays) PS - Gabriel Quote
Billy Claude Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, H2o said: Someone would poach Pickett to be their backup. He may not be that good really, but the backup talent level is thin across the board. I think this will be the order: QB1 - Flacco QB2 - Sanders QB3 - Pickett (inactive on gamedays) PS - Gabriel I don't think that they will risk trying to sneak a third round draft choice through waivers. Unless they have a fortuitous IR situation I think they will trade one of the QBs before cutdown for whatever they can get, most likely Pickett. If they lose Gabriel to a waiver claim the Amari Cooper for Dillon Gabriel would be the most lose/lose trade since Sammy Watkins for Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel. Edited 11 hours ago by Billy Claude Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, H2o said: Someone would poach Pickett to be their backup. He may not be that good really, but the backup talent level is thin across the board. I think this will be the order: QB1 - Flacco QB2 - Sanders QB3 - Pickett (inactive on gamedays) PS - Gabriel No way does a 3rd pick QB make it through waivers. They would put Flacco on the PS for a few weeks even if he was starting. Then make a move late to keep him on the roster Quote
Doc Brown Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, stuvian said: Personally I feel sorry for the Bronny James and Shedeur Sanders of this world. They can never live up to expectations. I have a sneaky suspicion that Shedeur Sanders is going to be a top 8 to 12 starting QB in this league. He's got the first real chip on his shoulder sliding to the 5th round despite being viewed by most as a late 1st or 2nd round prospect. The Browns will somehow screw it up though and he'll take the Baker Mayfield route and excel in Arizona or some place like that. Quote
H2o Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Billy Claude said: I don't think that they will risk trying to sneak a third round draft choice through waivers. Unless they have a fortuitous IR situation I think they will trade one of the QBs before cutdown for whatever they can get, most likely Pickett. If that happens, Amari Cooper for Dillon Gabriel would be the most lose/lose trade since Sammy Watkins for Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel. 4 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: No way does a 3rd pick QB make it through waivers. They would put Flacco on the PS for a few weeks even if he was starting. Then make a move late to keep him on the roster These are the same Browns that traded for Deshaun Watson and gave him $230M gtd, after the sexual predator allegations came to light. And honestly, does anyone outside of Cleveland truly believe that Dillon Gabriel was even a 3rd Round talent? Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, H2o said: These are the same Browns that traded for Deshaun Watson and gave him $230M gtd, after the sexual predator allegations came to light. And honestly, does anyone outside of Cleveland truly believe that Dillon Gabriel was even a 3rd Round talent? I do. If the Browns cut him Id drive him to Buffalo myself 1 Quote
Billy Claude Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 11 minutes ago, H2o said: These are the same Browns that traded for Deshaun Watson and gave him $230M gtd, after the sexual predator allegations came to light. And honestly, does anyone outside of Cleveland truly believe that Dillon Gabriel was even a 3rd Round talent? The Browns clearly thought Gabriel was going to go early in the 4th round, otherwise they wouldn't have picked him at the end of the third. I doubt they would be willing to risk losing their investment so quickly unless he looks absolutely awful in training camp. Quote
H2o Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Billy Claude said: The Browns clearly thought Gabriel was going to go early in the 4th round, otherwise they wouldn't have picked him at the end of the third. I doubt they would be willing to risk losing their investment so quickly unless he looks absolutely awful in training camp. Quote
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