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2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Unpopular opinion, but let’s be honest, Dion is the epitome of “love him if he’s our guy, hate him if he’s on the other team.” Think about the clientele on this board, if Dawkins played for another team, he would be called obnoxious, overrated, he should just shut up, blah blah blah. We know him, we all love him, but yes, his personality definitely turns other fan bases off 

 

While what you say is true about fans, this list is supposed to be based on how players perform on the field, and the guy who put it together is supposed to be a professional.  Tyreek Hill has a less than endearing personality but that doesn't diminish his play on the field.

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Yea a lot of that list I disagree with tbh.

 

Khalil Mack has been a better football player than Mike Evans for precisely zero days of their respective NFL careers. 

 

No place at all for Taylor Decker? Seriously? He is better than all but about 6 or 7 of those guys.

 

Geno is on the list but Dak Prescott isn't? Come on man. 

 

No Jalen Ramsey in the top 30? Behave. 

 

It's an atrocious list. If what they mean is "the 30 players over 30 with the highest PFF grades in 2024" they should... you know.... say that!

 

Oh and from a Bills perspective.... no Dion Dawkins???

 

Like there is a world where I could look at a list of 30, maybe, and not see Dion and understand it. But when Jake Matthews (who I like) and Grant Bolles (horribly overrated) both make it and Dion is better than both.... I can't understand it. Makes zero sense. 

 

I am generally a PFF defender and I subscribe to their advanced stats. But this is just horrible click bait designed to make fans foam at the mouth.

 

It worked.

I immediately thought of Dion Dawkins, who has become a pro bowl regular and probably had his best season in 2024.  I did notice that offensive tackles are very well represented on the list.  I think that their particular skill set is somewhat less subject to the wear and tear of play in the NFL compared with linebackers or running backs.

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53 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I immediately thought of Dion Dawkins, who has become a pro bowl regular and probably had his best season in 2024.  I did notice that offensive tackles are very well represented on the list.  I think that their particular skill set is somewhat less subject to the wear and tear of play in the NFL compared with linebackers or running backs.

In my expert opinion it's because the tackle position you have to main a proper playing rate of above 300 pounds.  That means when they retire they have to start eating less which sucks.  I'd try and play until I was 40 if it meant I could consume 6,500 calories a day.

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On 5/25/2025 at 8:55 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

Dawkins has a strong case imo

It’s actually insulting. Anchored the Left Tackle position for the least sacked QB, most total team rushing TDs, and the best statistical offense in the league should warrant serious consideration to be near the TOP of the list. I’ve seen Dawkins get disrespected time & time again by the media and even this board. Yet, he shows up every season. He’s a hell of a leader and backs it up with his play. Never any contract disputes, arrests, or trouble staying healthy. He’s the definition of consistency.

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On 5/25/2025 at 9:08 AM, BillsFan130 said:

The Baker mayfield love has been crazy to me this off season.

 

I think Joe Marino had him as his 5th best QB in the league.

 

Baker is a good QB, but top 5 seems like a huge stretch IMO

 

On 5/25/2025 at 9:49 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

The year before he put up over 4000 yards with 28 TDs and only 10 INTs. Over the last 2 years he averaged 4,277 yards, 35 TDs and 13 INTs. 
 

8-12 is fair. Daniels is in there somewhere as well. The guys that you named, along with Baker and Daniels is 5 through whatever (Stroud can get back there too).

 

I actually have Baker at 6.

 

Josh

Mahomes

Lamar 

Burrow

Shedeur

Baker

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What a weird list to even make. Having Geno smith and Baker Mayfield ahead of Stafford is insane lol. There are alot of guys on there that I didn’t realize were already 30. I guess in a way I’m glad we didn’t have a bunch of guys on there. Old is not want were looking for 

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On 5/25/2025 at 10:49 AM, H2o said:

Lists like this, for myself personally, help me to remember how quick an NFL career goes by, how quickly it seems the years end up behind us. I remember watching many of these guys in college, and talking about some of them when the draft was coming around. Now they're over 30, and most at or close to the tail end of their careers for the most part. 

 

But time makes you bolder

Even children get older

And I’m gettin’ older, too

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On 5/25/2025 at 9:08 AM, BillsFan130 said:

The Baker mayfield love has been crazy to me this off season.

 

I think Joe Marino had him as his 5th best QB in the league.

 

Baker is a good QB, but top 5 seems like a huge stretch IMO

I love Baker, He's probably the 3rd best QB in the NFC (Stafford/Hurts) But all those guys are behind Allen, Mahomes, Burrow and Jackson

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