Keon Coleman success by route - Not pretty

[ganesh]

On 5/22/2025 at 1:28 AM, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Its up to Brady to scheme him open as well or rotate him into slot at times.

 

Bills need some creativity on offense.

Umm...It was the best ever offense in Bills History.   It just did not have enough flashy plays to satisfy your appetite !!!

[BillsShredder83]

On 5/16/2025 at 9:57 PM, VW82 said:

Move Keon to the slot and he'll have success. Many of us said prior to the draft that he looked more like a big slot. 

Can you expand on why you think that? genuinely curious what the difference is. Z and a slot arent on the line, whats the benefit to Keon here? More of a football philosophy kinda question, what about Keon screams 'slot' to you. Im kinda revamping my beliefs about what a slot is as of late

[BillsShredder83]

On 5/17/2025 at 12:58 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

It isn't that he can't improve. It's that in round 1 (I know Keon was technically #33 but you take the point) you generally want high floor, high ceiling. By the end of the round those guys, inevitably, have gone so your choice is generally high floor, lower ceiling or low floor, high ceiling. Essnetially do you prefer the safe pick of swing for the fences. 

 

The problem with Keon is he is relatively low floor and lower ceiling. The way he has struggled so far in the pros is exactly the way those of us who didn't love him as a prospect thought he'd struggle. And the ways he has had success - screens and slants near the line of scrimmage 'ball in hand' and yards after catch - are the ways we thought he was most likely to succeed. When I first said as far ago as February last year that I thought he was a big slot at the next level I got a ton of pushback. Matt Harmon said the exact same thing 3 weeks later. So far the evidence supports our opinion.

Can you explain what about him makes you think big slot? I just wanna see the dude put in a position to catch the ball and get YAC.  He did look filthy on those slants, for as slow as he is, his top end speed SEEMS fast af.  Why is it easier to catch the ball off slants from the slot, then say the Z.... neither is on the line.  Is it just, in principal, facing a #3 corner instead of a #2? Im tryna learn GBill!

[BillsShredder83]

On 5/17/2025 at 1:35 AM, Doc Brown said:

I don't know but why are we talking about WR?  We scored over 30 points in eight straight games last year.  This isn't fantasy football.  Talking about WR is one of the dumbest things we should be doing right now.

nobody w/ SB aspirations care about regular season points.  that KC game was a few first downs away from a SB... and our outside WR play was abysmal. Love the dude but Hollins was our best WR that day. Thats a problemmmm

[BillsShredder83]

On 5/17/2025 at 9:41 AM, Capco said:

 

I tend to agree with you philosophically.  But on the flip side, didn't Andre Reed play mostly out of the slot?  Production is production, regardless of where it comes from, right?

Id argue Cole Beasley was the 2nd most important player his first 2-3years here.  Cool thing with a good slot is volume. Cole had volume for days.  Was like a super running back, in that he got tons of touches and was great at getting us to: 2nd-n-short, or more importantly converting 3rd downs.  I tend to agree with you. i know an outside guy effects the entire defense more than a slot..... but a slot who gets volume is my fav type of weapon.  its steady and reliable. watched brady use that for 2 decades

[Doc Brown]

13 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

nobody w/ SB aspirations care about regular season points.  that KC game was a few first downs away from a SB... and our outside WR play was abysmal. Love the dude but Hollins was our best WR that day. Thats a problemmmm

Good god.  It was sarcasm of Beane's WGR call.  WR is the most concerning position going into this season and whether the WR's step up in the playoffs will pry determine our fate......again.