sherpa Posted May 10 Posted May 10 7 minutes ago, TH3 said: jdv = word salad Not a word salad at all. It's been going on for decades and occasionally flares up. No US dog in the fight unless they get stupid and escalate. 1 1
Roundybout Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It sounds like the most honest and reasonable answer a high ranking American official can give. You’re confusing political posturing— something we all know happens, with governance and leadership. What specifically did you find idiotic about what Vance offered here? Because for months we heard how “weak” Biden was for allowing the Ukraine War to begin. Now it’s not our fault? It’s also very amusing for Vance to give this statement, then Trump announces the U.S. facilitated a ceasefire.
Albwan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 The morons must be getting restless now...the trump temp peace delaying the the end of the world(Trump) must be triggering af.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Because for months we heard how “weak” Biden was for allowing the Ukraine War to begin. Now it’s not our fault? It’s also very amusing for Vance to give this statement, then Trump announces the U.S. facilitated a ceasefire. Look, it seems pretty obvious that Putin knew Biden’s tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. He moved on Crimea during O/B admin, he moved on Ukraine when Biden took over. We can only speculate why that happened, but the weakness of Democrat leadership and Biden in particular is a very strong and likely possibility. We do know he didn’t move during the Trump admin, which is interesting. Beyond that, was there an agreement in place between Biden and Putin to allow the move? Hard to say but it is strange that these things happened on the watch of a guy who sees himself as an expert on foreign policy. I’d suggest we follow the money on that, lost of people getting wealthy on that war. As for Vance and his statement, it seems pretty obvious to rational folk that he was direct, clear and in command of the dialogue. You seeing a disconnect to that statement while simultaneously finding the admin was looking to assist in the escalation….that may be because your president typically was active in the mornings, snoozing by noon and had a penchant for wandering off and being corralled by college aged interns. 1 1
JDHillFan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Beyond that, was there an agreement in place between Biden and Putin to allow the move? A minor incursion maybe. 1 1
TH3 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 4 hours ago, sherpa said: Not a word salad at all. It's been going on for decades and occasionally flares up. No US dog in the fight unless they get stupid and escalate. Well. Whatever jd and ric beat their chest about …..didn’t work shocker….never seen a wh more concerned about owning a news cycle…half cooked uk trade deal…now a not so ceased cease fire
Motorin' Posted May 10 Posted May 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, TH3 said: jdv = word salad Go ***** a couch? You also don't seem to understand that the US has historically backed Pakistan since it's inception. And the idea that the root causes of this conflict are "none of our business" is a massive signal to India that the US is no longer standing behind Pakistan. Edited May 10 by Motorin'
sherpa Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, TH3 said: Well. Whatever jd and ric beat their chest about …..didn’t work shocker….never seen a wh more concerned about owning a news cycle…half cooked uk trade deal…now a not so ceased cease fire Nothing to do with my post. 1
yall Posted May 11 Posted May 11 43 minutes ago, Homelander said: So does that mean CNN is blatantly lying again? Hard to get a sense of who tells anything resembling the truth these days. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted May 26 Posted May 26 This was a really interesting encounter. The Pakistanis claimed to have shot down several Indian (western made) jets using very long range "kill chains" where a jet fires a long range missile and then other platforms pick it up and guide it to target way down range. Apparently the Indian pilots never saw what was coming. These were Chinese made weapon systems. No dog fighting at all. The Indians for their part claim to have hit many targets in Pakistan and to have shot down ALL incoming drones and missiles coming the other way.
CoudyBills Posted May 26 Posted May 26 On 5/7/2025 at 2:38 PM, njbuff said: What does MAGA have to do with the Pakistani’s and Indians hating each other since the beginning of time? Another brainiac here. This has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, Biden, Clinton, Obama, the Bush’s, Reagan…. whoever. You do realize these countries have hated each other forever, right? You realize that you are speaking to neo-cons right? They believe the job of the US is to rule the world.
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