Success Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, boyst said: Genuine question. Austin had good experience, arguably better coming in than Moore. Proehl had a lot of raw unknown talent. I wonder if this guy can make the roster? Would we keep 4 WR's and only 5 WR? We should have 5 for sure - and he's a good 5th. 1 1 Quote
MasterStrategist Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Welp. Already started. 🤣 I think it is a similar player....Samuel would carry a net $3m deap cap....highly unlikely he's let go. 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 5 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: yea not concerned about the comp picks anyway. Sign him please BOOM LETS GO 2 Quote
FLFan Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 20 minutes ago, juno999 said: Curious to see what Beane discloses about this signing. Moore visited day after draft concluded. It appears this was in the works at least this past weekend if not longer. Moore said previously that he and the Bills have been talking on and off for some time. The plan was to wait until after the draft. Personally, I prefer this option right now for a team chasing a championship. A known quantity with upside vs a developmental draft project in the 4th or 5th round. Edited 16 hours ago by FLFan 5 5 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Welp. Already started. 🤣 sign Keenan Allen then we’re cooking with gas & can talk about “odd man out” 😂 1 Quote
JaCrispy Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 12 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Yes. Always a good idea to tip your hand to everyone else what you plan on doing pre, during and post draft to maximize the value you get. They interviewed Moore before the draft and no one even knew about it anywhere. That's good GMing. EDIT: And now in hindsight, it makes his remarks even more valid. They were complaining that "you don't value WR the same as other teams" but was talking to a player at that position to try to help the WR room prior to the draft and signed him. This is a a double "STFU" from the interview and signing stance. All of this is fine, but the way Beane came off on the show, knowing he was still searching for WR seems over the top disingenuous… Again, as I said before, all he had to do was say that he is always open to upgrading the roster, and his phone is always open…this doesn’t indicate tipping his hand at all…it’s simply a vague response that leaves the door open, instead of losing control of his emotions 1 1 1 3 7 1 1 Quote
boyst Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Success said: We should have 5 for sure - and he's a good 5th. Locks: Coleman Samuel Shakir Palmer Likely: Shenault (can return) Possibly: Moore Virgil Bubble: The rest. 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Beane plays chess not checkers. Having Moore with this draft is 🤌 2 Quote
oldmanfan Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Mat68 said: They did draft one this year. With the first pick last year. They drafted Shorter the year prior and the year before that they picked Shakir. What are we talking about? Yes. How about that? Some never let facts obscure opinions. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, boyst said: Locks: Coleman Samuel Shakir Palmer Likely: Shenault (can return) Possibly: Moore Virgil Bubble: The rest. Samuel was solid in the playoffs, but IMO he’s not a lock 1 1 1 Quote
Lionel Hutz Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Is this that much of an upgrade over Hollins? Basically the same price but Hollins was a guy that had chemistry with Josh and was productive for us last season. Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Low risk high reward move imo, Allen will be the best QB he's played with by a country mile. Love the 4.35 speed but only 5'9" 178 lbs is brutal although Antonio Brown was only 5'10" 185 lbs. so there's that. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, boyst said: Locks: Coleman Samuel Shakir Palmer Likely: Shenault (can return) Possibly: Moore Virgil Bubble: The rest. Moore will be the 5th 1 6 2 Quote
boyst Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Samuel was solid in the playoffs, but IMO he’s not a lock Who has more talent? We don't need to save money with him being cut. $12mm in dead cap vs $9mm to pay. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Just now, Lionel Hutz said: Is this that much of an upgrade over Hollins? Basically the same price but Hollins was a guy that had chemistry with Josh and was productive for us last season. completely different players not sure about upgrade because Mack brought a lot as a football player and personality but Moore has explosiveness and real speed. He’s played with trash QB’s for dumpsterfire organizations. only 25. May feel “reborn” and show off who he was in college Just now, boyst said: Who has more talent? We don't need to save money with him being cut. $12mm in dead cap vs $9mm to pay. as unlikely as it would be, if we did make a trade Samuel would be the likely player + a pick IMO 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Weirdly, I'm very happy with this signing and yet at the same time I don't expect much from him. I think he'll be the #5 receiver and will see only see limited action in specific packages - unless of course there's an injury. I think we now have a respectable, though certainly not elite, WR room. 1 Quote
boyst Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Lionel Hutz said: Is this that much of an upgrade over Hollins? Basically the same price but Hollins was a guy that had chemistry with Josh and was productive for us last season. 5'10 180 vs 6'4 221 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Low risk high reward move imo, Allen will be the best QB he's played with by a country mile. Love the 4.35 speed but only 5'9" 178 lbs is brutal although Antonio Brown was only 5'10" 185 lbs. so there's that. he’s 5’10 and 181 according to google 1 Quote
NewEra Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 8 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: All of this is fine, but the way Beane came off on the show, knowing he was still searching for WR seems over the top disingenuous… Again, as I said before, all he had to do was say that he is always open to upgrading the roster, and his phone is always open…this doesn’t indicate tipping his hand at all…it’s simply a vague response that leaves the door open, instead of losing control of his emotions Agreed. Bad look. 1 Quote
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